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Yes, that is interesting for sure. They aren't fullsize, but hey, it's also 4 stops... Looks very okay to me!
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Jettatore said:Wiki is pretty good for this sort of thing. Check this out if you haven't found it already.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EF_300mm_lens
neuroanatomist said:NormanBates said:I've noticed something strange
in the canonrumors front page, on the right, there's a panel where you'll find the forum threads with the latest forum messages
http://www.canonrumors.com/
except the negative threads don't appear
for example this one: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=5828.0
I'm pretty sure there's a perfectly sensible explanation for this... I'd love to hear it...
That section of the CR homepage is populated by threads with recent activity. But...it's delayed by an hour or so from the actual activity on the forum. That snarky negative post you just read (or posted, as the case may be) on the forum will make it to the front page, eventually. You can see this easily in that those home page links point to posts that are several posts (or pages) back from the most recent post in very active threads.
As I've stated before, another conspiracy theory dashed on the cold, hard rocks of reality.
As for threads being deleted, mods do that sometimes, but much more often I've noticed that similar threads are just merged together, so one or more seem to disappear but they really haven't.
+3Daniel Flather said:+2awinphoto said:altenae said:No camera beats another camera.
It's not a game.
It's not superman vs spiderman.
It's a tool.
And this tool from Canon or Nikon is more then most of us will ever need.
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justsomedude said:april said:with that in mind, my question is: Has anyone thought of making an adapter for canon lenses so we can use it on nikon bodies?
This is exactly why there are currently a lot of dual brand shooters. The Nikon D800 has tempted a lot of us.
NickCat said:LetTheRightLensIn said:Astro said:or they will just post a link to the techradar test with a big question mark ?
and ask how two DxO test can have different results.
http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=5868.0
none of the techradar results make much sense at all
Why don't TechRadar's results make sense?
The one thing I walk away from those graphs with is the fact that Canon is obviously doing something pretty nasty during the in-body JPG conversion to have that large a discrepancy in the results.
Maybe it's because I want to believe those results, but they just feel more feasible. Especially with the D4 having higher scores then the 800.
psolberg said:awinphoto said:psolberg said:Fishnose said:sach100 said:Orion said:CANON ALL THE WAY. . .
http://fstoppers.com/video-canon-5dm3-5dm2-and-nikon-d800-low-light-video-test
BEST ALL ROUND camera this side of the universe. . . heck I can't see ANY 95 in the Nikon example . . . . only in the Canon.
That test demonstrates that a certain N camera got Destroyed 800 times over and over!
but yeah some would argue it's *just* the low light video part..
Really?
How about trying what I tried, since it's obvious the light levels are very different in the 3 videos stacked on top of each other.
Run the video twice side by side, stop one video at ISO 800 and look at the D800. Let the other video run until the 5D3 comes up to the same level of light as the D800 has in the paused video.
What do you see? You need at least a full ISO stop to get the same amount of light.
Which means the D800 is being disadvantaged in this 'test' by a whole stop at least when you get to higher ISO levels, and of course you'll have more noise etc. Makes the 'test' rather pointless.
Or it means the 5D cameras is running way lower ISOs than they claim to be running.
Also, it appears that Canon has NR on and Nikjon has NR off. So the comparison is even more pointless.
Pity they couldn't do it properly when they did it at all. As the guy says who did it, "only had the cameras for a short time". Maybe he just doesn't know how to set them up exactly the same. Menu systems can be such a drag....
Yes something is going on. Either canon overstates the ISO true value or Nikon understates it. Thus although the canon has some advantage, at equivalent exposure the Nikon is at 1 to two stops brighter. Which means the canon needs to boost 2 stops to match it. So ISO 800 on Nikon is about 3200 on the 5d3 to get the same image. The real advantage of the mk3 is hard to measure then.
However the Mk 3 detail is so mushy, it does get killed for daytime shooting :|
nikon 422 hdmi out just blows it out of the water.
For what it's worth, according to the almighty DxO ISO sensitivity, for Nikon D800 and Canon 5d3, the 5d3 is closer to the norm than the D800 is...
http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Compare-Camera-Sensors/Compare-cameras-side-by-side/%28appareil1%29/795|0/%28brand%29/Canon/%28appareil2%29/792|0/%28brand2%29/Nikon
Cant quite figure out why it's so bright unless something wasn't quite equal.
DXO mark measures still images NOT video. It is clear that setting both cameras at ISO X, the nikon is brighter meaning one of the cameras is NOT reporting the ISO sensitivity correctly. As to which one it is, one would have to take a control camera, like a 5DmkII or D3s and repeat the test. I suspect nikon goofed off and what they report as ISO800 is really much higher...which is silly of them because this makes them look worse than they actually are on these candlelight tests. It can also seriously screw with your exposure if you use an external meter.
briansquibb said:Drizzt321 said:I'm not sure if I'd want to switch to Av or Tv mode or not. Problem being is that the shutter speeds will suddenly start to drag below 1/50 or 1/60 which is pretty slow for a show to begin with.
How does that work in Tv mode?
Just put it in Manual mode at, say, 1/60/f4.0 and auto iso and then there will no more adjustments needed