Here are the full Canon EOS R specifications
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Considering that all the Cinema bodies have EF mount options ( for the lower models it's the only option), I don't think that mount is going anywhere anytime soon. I'd wader that the 1D X line will stay around for a long time in EF, hence the new big white lenses being released. Plus, Video people love the EF lenses. The Panasonic EVA 1, a version of the SONY NEX, RED Cinema, and many of the Black Magic Cameras all have native EF mount options. Not to mention the amount of people I have seen filming on Sony's and GH5's and such with adapters just so they could use EF mount Canon and Zeiss glass. Canon makes too much money in the cinema world for the EF mount to go away anytime soon.
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It's been months since I posted on CR so hello and here's my take.
Canon have a firecracker there and with the new 50, 35 and 28-70 being R specific, a reason for many to buy this camera. That you can fit existing ef lenses on even more of a reason and as it's not what I consider full pro spec, a price point to draw people in if only to test it out.
This thing will sell like absolute hot cakes and is a superbly easy access point for Canon users to test mirrorless out in anticipation of a dual slotted pro body in 6 months time when I would imagine a 24-70 R, 70-200 F4 R, 85 1.4 AND 1.8 R are launched to complete the system.
Canon just drew a line in the sand, dug a moat and put up a 10 foot wall to make a point.
Canon have a firecracker there and with the new 50, 35 and 28-70 being R specific, a reason for many to buy this camera. That you can fit existing ef lenses on even more of a reason and as it's not what I consider full pro spec, a price point to draw people in if only to test it out.
This thing will sell like absolute hot cakes and is a superbly easy access point for Canon users to test mirrorless out in anticipation of a dual slotted pro body in 6 months time when I would imagine a 24-70 R, 70-200 F4 R, 85 1.4 AND 1.8 R are launched to complete the system.
Canon just drew a line in the sand, dug a moat and put up a 10 foot wall to make a point.
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Optically, I think it *IS* possible. Think of corrective lenses for someone that is nearsighted - their focus is ahead of the retina, so lenses are used to "pull" the focus back to where it should be. Sort of like a neutral speedbooster....
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I actually use that feature every day -- taking photos with my cell phone, which can do this. A D5500-level camera has this for Nikon. I want this feature regardless of how little you personally value it.
And Canon would agree that it's desirable. Only 1-series cameras are given this functionality. So in that light, I understand why they've withheld it with the EOS R.
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Could anybody explain what's the hype about the lack of 1080@120? Are people really using it so widely?
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Btw I wouldn‘t expect L lenses to be focus by wire as some are fearing they might be...
At least that‘s my hope. Why should „all“ new lenses for the RF-Mount be like that?
Sounds like the future lenses for all MILCs will FBW. Started with Sony, Nikon and now Canon all going that way I do not have any hope the old focus distance scale will come back. Today I use that extensively for macro shots and when I have hard time getting focus with a lens I just look at the scale to make sure I am not closer than the MFD ans also to get an idea where it is focusing roughly and override the AF. The first reason is something i would consider a must at this point but if there is enough technology to fill the void I will move on. Even otherwise do I have a choice?
The second item is more of a convenience to see where the lens is roughly focusing at. I am sure I will miss it but I guess can live without it
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Comparing to Panasonic GH5 which has 400Mbps (4:2:2 10-bit ALL-I), I guess this should also be 10bit 4:2:2. If so, quite impressive because even rival brands (e.g. Panasonic, Sony) and pro Cinema cameras (e.g. C200, XF400) don't have and cannot match this.
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B-roll mostly. It's a thing now, because competitive models have it. The same way 4K@120 will be a big deal in a few more years, this has just become relevant because of competitive pressures.
TBH, I'm quite happy with 1080@60 and 4K is a novelty for me, so it's just gravy. However, for folks that do video more seriously, this is definitely a differentiator.
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Hence the crop to compensate or to "protect" the cinema cameras?
I guess the full frame 4k (with obvious aspect ratio crop) with DPAF along with over sampling with 4:2:0 8 bit would be a better choice
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I've been carrying Leatherman's for 30 or more years now also, the last thing I'd ever use it for is to pull a cork out of a wine bottle.....it's my work tool not my wine tasting tool ! LOL
Yet many look for and only see a tools weaknesses rather than its strengths.....many look at cameras the same way too.
I prefer my DSLR's and I have no interests what so ever going mirrorless but this new camera sounds like a great tool if they keep it under 2500 bucks. It does NOT sound like Canons FF Mirrorless PRO Flagship Camera by any means and I'm sure they will spring that model soon as well (after they make some bucks off this debut edition).
My guess is this EOS R is the a7iii competitor so to speak and I believe by what's been leaked so far it may top that Sony for many just for having the flip screen, face tracking, and DPAF alone.
My other guess is that Canon will be leading the FF Mirrorless market within the next 24 months......
30 years or so ago, I bought a Leatherman multi-tool for camping. Several friends had bought similar pocket tools. I was proud of how my tool had just the tools I actually might need. One friend was quick to point out that mine didn't have a cork-screw. "I don't drink wine." was my response. For weeks though, whenever the subject of these tools came up, my friend would point out to everyone "Ken's doesn't even have a cork-screw."
I came to realize some people buy things solely for bragging rights. I can't relate.
p.s. My friend didn't drink wine either.
I've been carrying Leatherman's for 30 or more years now also, the last thing I'd ever use it for is to pull a cork out of a wine bottle.....it's my work tool not my wine tasting tool ! LOL
Yet many look for and only see a tools weaknesses rather than its strengths.....many look at cameras the same way too.
I prefer my DSLR's and I have no interests what so ever going mirrorless but this new camera sounds like a great tool if they keep it under 2500 bucks. It does NOT sound like Canons FF Mirrorless PRO Flagship Camera by any means and I'm sure they will spring that model soon as well (after they make some bucks off this debut edition).
My guess is this EOS R is the a7iii competitor so to speak and I believe by what's been leaked so far it may top that Sony for many just for having the flip screen, face tracking, and DPAF alone.
My other guess is that Canon will be leading the FF Mirrorless market within the next 24 months......
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That is exactly my question. 1080@120p may be used for adding effects (slow motion of ducks in a pond, etc.) but does not contribute to better quality video, so what is the hype?
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This is a good question, and yes I would kill for that. I personally care less of the eye focus that everyone seems to think is needed. I've used it, it's fine for what it is, but it's not something I would use because of the limitations.
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Neuro is our AF expert and I'd imagine he'd have something to say about Fullstop's comment.
I believe EOS R's AF system will function very well in low light, but Canon appears to have pulled a marketing fast one here -- but just a bit. I've seen sensitivity claims made with everything from f/1.4 to f/2.8 lenses, but here they have indeed made the claim based on a f/1.2 lens.
But I don't believe the statement:
EV -6 to 18 (f/1.2, at 73°F/23°C, ISO 100, One-Shot AF)
Means that the AF sensitivity wheels come off the bus if you are not shooting an f/1.2 lens. I believe it gradually steps down with lens speed. Again, I await Neuro's take on this.
But in full fairness to Fullstop, it would appear that even if the focusing works in a dark cave as advertised, we're shooting in M if we do. His metering catch is a good one.
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The lack of IBIS is what surprised me most, especially as the lenses do not seem to have the 'IS' designation. But maybe this body will be the lower priced one, the higher one will have IBIS and the R lenses announced are designed more for that body?
OK, I know I am indulging in wishful thinking...
OK, I know I am indulging in wishful thinking...
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B-roll for vlogs? I'm not really into video processing and I don't care much about video features. I realise it's for slowing 4x down? That is, many people so desperately want 4x slowdown instead of just 2x that they won't buy an otherwise suitable camera?
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Finally, the specs look more like a DSLR than a power shot, I did not buy a "M" because it cannot be remorely controlled by a USB link, it appears that this keeps the P{ower Shot mentality here, wi-fi for remote control is poor at best.
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Nikon's FTZ adaptor is $249 (I believe). They sell three kits: body only / body + adaptor / body + adaptor + lens
Looks like a headphone flap to me -- bottom left of the body above.
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Looks like a headphone flap to me -- bottom left of the body above.
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