Very nice picture, Dockland.
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Thanks, Click!Another beautiful series, usern4cr. Well done.
I love your cat.
Thanks, Jack.I really hesitate to offer critical commentary and I wouldn't if it were not for the fact that what I'm going to say was directed my way here in the forum about 8 years ago by a pretty knowledgeable individual. Many bird lovers like me also suffer from GAS. We tend to put all our focus on our subject such as how sharp it is, how much detail in the eyelashes, how brilliant the colours and so forth and... possibly neglect the composition, which is more than just the bird. I was told to not crop so tightly on the bird; allow it to have some context, particularly if there are interesting shapes or elements in the photo that will actually direct the viewers eye to the subject. Along with that is the general comment of not always placing the subject in the centre of the photo. Of course these are just guidelines, not hard and fast rules and of course we still live in a free society where we can be individuals. FWIW Of course, I like these photos in case that might be in doubt.
Jack
Well, I'm in the same boat with a desire but I'm not trained, so I, like you, am always looking at ways to improve my vision. Never the less, all this must remain fun or it's pointless (unless we wish to go commercial of course).Thanks, Jack.
I haven't really studied the art of how to position & crop subjects for photography (but I probably should have!).
I do know about the rule of thirds, and leading the eye into the subject area with forground/middleground/distance (well, for landscapes).
But I end up just cropping & positioning things so that they just seem to work for me visually, while trying to have eyes on one of the 1/3rd lines if possible.
Cropping tight or keeping wide open is something I consider based on how interesting the background is, and how interesting the subject is. I often try different combinations of sizing as well as portrait/landscape orientations.
It's something that I hope to get better at as I do it more (as in all things in life, if possible).
I'm glad you like these, and I'll always welcome suggestions regarding what might make them better.
My own favorite is # 13 but I like every thing with an ice and snow... Nostalgia, it means I'm biased!(continued)
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That's it. Thanks for your help (if you're interested).
If you look at the pure photo-aspect it's totally right!Totally agree! My personal two pence is to try avoiding too many branches in the photo. Branches can make a nice frame, but not a background. This recommendation will make bird photography a more challenging activity, but it's worth it.
Great photos! And I concur with every sentence in you long text. I'm doing exactly the same. And I didn't want to offend anybody. The key word in my previous post was "trying"!If you look at the pure photo-aspect it's totally right!
But:
1. I'm taking photos regularly, no mater what is in front of me - rare or very common bird. I think photography is not just an art - it's also kind of sport. Keeping your skills fresh will help you also in the moment when you need every thing from yourself to get that rare bird/interesting scene... Your fingers should know where they have to push/rotate "without engaging your mind" because you are busy with framing or so...
2. Sometimes you know the opportunity to get a photo of that bird is low/to extremely low - and you shoot anyway (and you perfectly know that from pure photog point you are getting something of low quality). But you just got something interesting (from birders perspective)!
3. If we were posting here just the very best (from photogs point of view!) this topic wouldn't have that many participants - there is something else here... And I personally like it!!!
And finally (damn it - I got tired of so much typing!!!) -some photos from today. Nothing interesting, I'm just keeping myself fit...
White Tern - from adult (in very bad, harshly contrasting light!) to the babies of the whitish form and to the brownish form. And few of the Red-vented Bulbul.
Sorry for the branches but it didn't pop up for better photo !
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I agree. If someone wants to buy something of mine then I'm glad to sell it (and it would be a thrill) but I'm retired and enjoy whatever "hobby" I want at the moment and the last thing I'd want is to try to make money in photography which (I assume) is a really tough way for even long-time professionals to make a good living at currently.Well, I'm in the same boat with a desire but I'm not trained, so I, like you, am always looking at ways to improve my vision. Never the less, all this must remain fun or it's pointless (unless we wish to go commercial of course).
Jack
Thanks, ISv. Ice & snow are a rarity here, so I tried to take hours of bird photos with it while I could.My own favorite is # 13 but I like every thing with an ice and snow... Nostalgia, it means I'm biased!
Funny, yesterday I was out with a light jacket (+8C) in the sun on dry earth visiting my pair of Canada geese who appear to be planning to nest, perhaps once again on my playhouse roof. And then I heard thunder and saw ominous clouds and within an hour the snow was falling like crazy. Now it's morning and I'm heading out with the camera - everything is laden with snow and ice and it's -3C. No rarity here but still beautiful. This is not today's shot but with some luck, maybe I can match itThanks, ISv. Ice & snow are a rarity here, so I tried to take hours of bird photos with it while I could.
Beautiful composition!Funny, yesterday I was out with a light jacket (+8C) in the sun on dry earth visiting my pair of Canada geese who appear to be planning to nest, perhaps once again on my playhouse roof. And then I heard thunder and saw ominous clouds and within an hour the snow was falling like crazy. Now it's morning and I'm heading out with the camera - everything is laden with snow and ice and it's -3C. No rarity here but still beautiful. This is not today's shot but with some luck, maybe I can match it
I'm all for everyone taking pictures for whatever reason they choose. Hiking is good exercise and why not with a camera!! However, if someone were to mention selling their pictures I would assume that they want their pictures to appeal to a broad audience (more sales) and be striking (more sales) and this then presupposes an interest in composition. I happen to be burdened with an upbringing that was always pushing me to perfection and so my perspective is influenced by that - I often wish it were not.Funny, yesterday I was out with a light jacket (+8C) in the sun on dry earth visiting my pair of Canada geese who appear to be planning to nest, perhaps once again on my playhouse roof. And then I heard thunder and saw ominous clouds and within an hour the snow was falling like crazy. Now it's morning and I'm heading out with the camera - everything is laden with snow and ice and it's -3C. No rarity here but still beautiful. This is not today's shot but with some luck, maybe I can match it
Excellent shot Jack - really lovely. With no disrespect intended to others, for me it's one of the best shots on this thread, and I've been through from page one (over the years).Funny, yesterday I was out with a light jacket (+8C) in the sun on dry earth visiting my pair of Canada geese who appear to be planning to nest, perhaps once again on my playhouse roof. And then I heard thunder and saw ominous clouds and within an hour the snow was falling like crazy. Now it's morning and I'm heading out with the camera - everything is laden with snow and ice and it's -3C. No rarity here but still beautiful. This is not today's shot but with some luck, maybe I can match it
That's quite the compliment. I'll take it even if it's not quite that deserving. I'd hate to be seen as trying to make out friendly interactions competitive.Excellent shot Jack - really lovely. With no disrespect intended to others, for me it's one of the best shots on this thread, and I've been through from page one (over the years).
If a thing is worth doing, it is worth doing badly.I'm all for everyone taking pictures for whatever reason they choose. Hiking is good exercise and why not with a camera!! However, if someone were to mention selling their pictures I would assume that they want their pictures to appeal to a broad audience (more sales) and be striking (more sales) and this then presupposes an interest in composition. I happen to be burdened with an upbringing that was always pushing me to perfection and so my perspective is influenced by that - I often wish it were not.
Jack