Two more EOS R bodies are coming in 2021 [CR2]

[CTJohn]

No one mentioning a mirrorless version of the 7D. Why not? I've got to think there's a market for a very high frame rate mirrorless, even with a cropped sensor.

 

[mpb001]

I am reading a lot about an assortment of various R and M series cameras supposedly coming out in 2020, but except for the R5 and possibly R6, I see little information or proposed release dates. The R6 is supposed to come out in May 2020, however I have not seen any images of this phantom model. I think that Canon should focus on what they can realistically offer the public in 2020 before they start talking about 2021. I realize that the world has changed in only a few months due to the virus. Maybe Canon and others should just shelve the idea of releasing cameras this year altogether. Its not like people really need these cameras and since travel has been curtailed, not a lot of travel photography will probably happen until 2021 anyway. Just my opinion.

 

[Jack Douglas]

I am reading a lot about an assortment of various R and M series cameras supposedly coming out in 2020, but except for the R5 and possibly R6, I see little information or proposed release dates. The R6 is supposed to come out in May 2020, however I have not seen any images of this phantom model. I think that Canon should focus on what they can realistically offer the public in 2020 before they start talking about 2021. I realize that the world has changed in only a few months due to the virus. Maybe Canon and others should just shelve the idea of releasing cameras this year altogether. Its not like people really need these cameras and since travel has been curtailed, not a lot of travel photography will probably happen until 2021 anyway. Just my opinion.

Wow, how would you know what people need?

Jack

 

[AEWest]

No one mentioning a mirrorless version of the 7D. Why not? I've got to think there's a market for a very high frame rate mirrorless, even with a cropped sensor.

I don't believe they will ever come out with RF-S type cropped sensor lenses. At the time, full frame sensors were very expensive to manufacture so it made sense to have another type of more affordable camera lens combo.

With the current contraction in the camera market (even prior to Covid), it makes little sense to come out with yet another lens line. EOS-M will be the mirrorless crop camera from Canon going forward.

 

[researcher]

Since we're at the Speculation Carnival, I'm gonna aim my dart at the prospect of an R7 - APSC version. It won't have all the features and functions of the top end, but will allow legacy crop sensor camera users to use their lenses with the new body/R-system. M-system, schmem system...

 

[navastronia]

I'm cool with the R1 landing in 2021, or even later, but Canon would be wise to think about how long they really want to cede the pro mirrorless world to other brands.

 

[Juangrande]

And honestly, Canon closed the DR gap sufficiently with the 5D4 sensor. I will always take more DR (please!) but at this point the ~half stop advantage at base ISOs is going to be less important than the rest of the camera's features. This whole "canon DR sucks" thing is a hold over from the 5D3 (and, lol, my 60D which was banding city even at a 2 stop push).

And for me personally I almost never shoot without off camera strobes even outdoors so DR isn’t an issue for the way I work anyway.

 

[Kit.]

Since we're at the Speculation Carnival, I'm gonna aim my dart at the prospect of an R7 - APSC version..

Then R8 as a MFT version and R9 as a 1" version.

 

[reefroamer]

I don't believe they will ever come out with RF-S type cropped sensor lenses. At the time, full frame sensors were very expensive to manufacture so it made sense to have another type of more affordable camera lens combo.

With the current contraction in the camera market (even prior to Covid), it makes little sense to come out with yet another lens line. EOS-M will be the mirrorless crop camera from Canon going forward.

With the EF-RF adapter, is there any reason the existing EF-S lenses (eg. 10-22m, 18-135mm) couldn’t be used on a crop-sensor R body? I can use both of these EF-S lenses , with the adapter, on my RP body. I would think the same would apply for use with a crop sensor R-mount body that could be equivalent to a 7D3. Use the M6II sensor. Canon would not have to commit to special crop lenses on a crop R body. Seems like most people here really want a crop R body for the extra reach with telephoto EF or RF glass. Nevertheless, Canon my be finished with crop sensor bodies outside the EOS-M lineup.

 

[AEWest]

With the EF-RF adapter, is there any reason the existing EF-S lenses (eg. 10-22m, 18-135mm) couldn’t be used on a crop-sensor R body? I can use both of these EF-S lenses , with the adapter, on my RP body. I would think the same would apply for use with a crop sensor R-mount body that could be equivalent to a 7D3. Canon would not have to commit to special crop lenses on a crop R body. Seems like most people here really want a crop R body for the extra reach with telephoto EF or RF glass. Nevertheless, Canon my be finished with crop sensor bodies outside the EOS-M lineup.

I believe Canon would like to whittle down the number of mounts from four to two in the next few years - RF and M for their ILCs.

 

[Kit.]

With the EF-RF adapter, is there any reason the existing EF-S lenses (eg. 10-22m, 18-135mm) couldn’t be used on a crop-sensor R body?

Yes, and the reason is the lack of a crop-sensor R body.

Canon would not have to commit to special crop lenses on a crop R body.

Canon does not have to commit to a crop R body as well, if those lenses still work on a FF R body in the crop mode.

 

[RobbieHat]

R1 will be a dream for wildlife

I think the specs on the R5 are already a dream for wildlife photographers. I am certainly planning to buy it and use it for that. What more are you seeking for a wildlife rig?

 

[Ruiloba]

I think the specs on the R5 are already a dream for wildlife photographers. I am certainly planning to buy it and use it for that. What more are you seeking for a wildlife rig?

High detail even in high iso where most of the wildlifer's strugle (like from 1600 and above) wich comes with less megapixels sensor as the 1dx does. Mpx also deals with us as we usually try to burst a bird in flight (for example) and this means a lot of photos wich traduces into a lot of GB and PC load times, needs for bigger storage in the PC and bigger cards for the camera .. Less megapixels also helps with the buffer.. And probably helps also to better fps on the viewfinder for better tracking.

More robust body to compensate the weight of long lenses. Bigger battery with more volts for faster focusing.... It involves a lot of things..

Oh god and please! Better frame rate when the flash/trigger is connected! Also the ability to shot in silent shutter with flash/trigger


Im sure im skipping some things but that ones comes to my mind right now..

Btw : we are still waiting for those big whites on Rf and the 2x and 1.4x teleconverters. The Rf 100-500 at 7.1 is so limited

R5 bigger pro's are that those who crop their photos (i try to avoid..) have more room and also the inbody 1.6x gives you a nice 18mpx for those who need extra reach and dont crop or cant crop (like for contest)

 

[Aussie shooter]

You would have to Assume an R1 and a hi res R5. I think the RP remains as a decent entry level RF body for now and does not need to be given an immediate facelift. Or in theory canon may even be able to lower the price of the original R and have that as an entry level model and the R as a bargin basement entry level model. But I still think they need a crop sensor 'R7'. But I get the feeling they have chosen not to go down that path. So I could see the lineup being R1, R5, R5s, R6, Ra, R and/or RP.

 

[mpb001]

Wow, how would you know what people need?

Jack

You are right. I probably should have said what people want. People always want something...

 

[Aussie shooter]

I think the specs on the R5 are already a dream for wildlife photographers. I am certainly planning to buy it and use it for that. What more are you seeking for a wildlife rig?

It's a build quality thing. There are others as well but an R1 will be a tank. I am sure the R5 will be tough but it wont be as tough.

 

[davo]

My choice would be an R5L......Same camera with No 8K, No 4K120, Lower megapixels sensor for incredible low light performance. ( Could even lose the CFexpress) that's my dream camera. The R6 lacks the design features of the R5 I want ( I'm using a 5DIII currently)

 

[Cat_Interceptor]

A genuine replacement for the 7D II. Canon would be bloody mad to not do it.

 

[joestopper]

$6000-7000 is a good price range i think. I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

No.
The 5DS(R) wasn't twice as much as the 5DIII, so why would the R5S be twice of R5?

 

[unfocused]

I love these threads. It's like telling a six-year-old that Santa is going to bring him something special. All of a sudden wishes go wild. Then when the actual present arrives, we will get a bunch of people whining about how Canon didn't give them what they wanted.

Once the R5 and R6 are announced, we will have a much better idea of where the holes in the lineup might be. Looking at the rumored specs for the R5 and R6, it doesn't appear that either one really works as a replacement for the RP or the R.

If they don't keep the R and RP in the lineup, then it seems logical that the new bodies will be designed to fill the price points that these cameras currently meet. Forum dwellers get caught up in specs, but Canon is more interested in hitting specific price points.