Market segmentation pure & simple. Don't like the video spec. buy a video camera.
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The only thing Canon will listen to is poor sales. I switched to Fuji 3 months ago. It’s not full frame but the camera does what I need a camera to do in 2019 and the image and colors are fantastic. Bye Canon. I’m done with your lazy innovation and intentional crippling of technology. I should of switched a long time ago but I held off for the Eos-R. After that announcement I made the decision to switch. Bye. I’m done with you.
Market segmentation pure & simple. Don't like the video spec. buy a video camera.
Some of the basic features should be standard. I don't think it's asking too much for 24p in HD. A feature found in all modern camera. I don't even shoot video but I think it's a step backward for consumer.
We are looking for convergent of multiple products to simplify our life. Imagine a smart phone company saying phone is only for calling and texting.
If you want to watch YouTube, Netflix, play game, surf the net, social media get a dedicate entertainment device for each specific task.
If you actually care about the quality of your 1080p footage, you are going to shoot in 4K
I am surprised that nobody on here is complaining that the R cameras can't recognize the cinema lenses. I mean, this is the clearest sign that Canon is intentionally crippling their mirrorless cameras to protect their cinema line. All those people that go out and order the RP and the CN-E 17-120 are going to be pissed when they find out that their ideal filmmaking set-up isn't going to work out for them.
No one is expecting top end video features for $1300 camera like 4K 60p, 10 bit, RAW recording or cinema lenses. No one complain about it.
24p in HD and 4K DPAF isn't asking alot.
You are just being silly in defending Canon. I don't shoot videos and can see through the BS Canon did to protect EOS R sale.
I do shoot video. I couldn't care less about the RP video features. Video is an extremely capital intensive business. Canon is trying to sell expensive video lenses. From a business segmentation aspect, it makes sense that they aren't concerned with appeasing this theoretical group of videographers who can't spare $1000 to buy the mirrorless camera with the features that they think they want. Canon is trying to sell lenses that are 10x the cost of the camera.
I think it is kind of dumb from a marketing aspect to leave the 24p off of the camera. The targeted market for the camera is not going to care. In fact, that market of people will be pleasantly surprised at how nice and smooth their footage looks on the camera compared to the previous camera they had that was set to shoot 24p by default. But there is enough of this very small but very vocal minority of DSLR video enthusiasts who will make a stink online and convince the people in the intended market for the camera that the camera is incapable of getting "cinematic" footage of their kid playing in their back yard. Canon should have just included the 24p just so that people would have one less thing to complain about.
Of course, this very small group of DSLR video enthusiasts would still find something to complain about with Canon, since that is just the narrative at this point. It has been ever since the original sin of Canon following up the 5D with the over priced 1DC.
I am only defending Canon in the sense that I think the people whining about video in Canon's photo cameras are missing the bigger picture. And the bigger picture is that the people who care about 24p vs 30p in their photo camera are an insignificant portion of Canon's market.
I do shoot video. I couldn't care less about the RP video features. Video is an extremely capital intensive business. Canon is trying to sell expensive video lenses. From a business segmentation aspect, it makes sense that they aren't concerned with appeasing this theoretical group of videographers who can't spare $1000 to buy the mirrorless camera with the features that they think they want. Canon is trying to sell lenses that are 10x the cost of the camera.
I think it is kind of dumb from a marketing aspect to leave the 24p off of the camera....
I am only defending Canon in the sense that I think the people whining about video in Canon's photo cameras are missing the bigger picture. And the bigger picture is that the people who care about 24p vs 30p in their photo camera are an insignificant portion of Canon's market. {emphasis added}
I think it is kind of dumb from a marketing aspect to leave the 24p off of the camera. The targeted market for the camera is not going to care.
which camera though did you record in 4k for . also for this camera it doesn't have 1080 24p. which is the stardard for films or filmic video. they might add it later but the omission of that is a true slap in the face. never let those in power totally dictate what you need. brands create standards. competition creates more standards. when "your guys" don't try to live up to others standards or do what the competition does( ifiti works properly), then you have to question them and let them know, we will not accept whatever you give it to us. It's Just common sense when it comes to CONSUMERS (ALL OF US) getting what we want if it is possible. I don't know about you guys but I never been apologetic for big businesses. I didn't mean to call these peopel relics, but someone has to get on their asses.In general Canon gives what the target buyers need most. Not everyone needs 4K@60p, hell not everyone needs 4K in the first place. I have only tried to take some videos of may daughter in 4K and gave up after I saw how much space they take. Just neat 1080p video is what I want. With the articulated touch screen and DualPixel AF, Canon's 1080p video implementation is one of the best for casual shooters. That may be why most Canon users are happy with what they have.
I've never preordered and cancelled a camera so fast. The video features are a complete joke. Canon obviously doesn't care to lead in this space for now as they could if they wanted to. They need to get back to the mentality they had when they released the 70D.
It's definitely intentionally marketing decision more than technical limitation.
which camera though did you record in 4k for . also for this camera it doesn't have 1080 24p. which is the stardard for films or filmic video. they might add it later but the omission of that is a true slap in the face. never let those in power totally dictate what you need. brands create standards. competition creates more standards. when "your guys" don't try to live up to others standards or do what the competition does( ifiti works properly), then you have to question them and let them know, we will not accept whatever you give it to us. It's Just common sense when it comes to CONSUMERS (ALL OF US) getting what we want if it is possible. I don't know about you guys but I never been apologetic for big businesses. I didn't mean to call these peopel relics, but someone has to get on their asses.
If this product does not offer features you want/need, move on, there is a good probability that the product is not meant for you. You shouldn't worry about the wellness of the company. Let the company deal with its own market, rival companies, benefits and losses.