4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]

[traveller]

What would an 'entry level' full frame Canon look like? Realistically, there's only two choices of sensor -the 5D MkIII's 22MP and the 1D X's 18MP; not much of a product differentiation. I can't see them using the 18MP sensor, as I think this would devalue the 1D X psychologically by implying that it uses Canon's 'budget' FF sensor. So how else to differentiate from the 5D MkIII: less weather sealing, <100% viewfinder, slower frame rate, smaller image buffer? They're all a given (I would think), but Sony's experience with the A900/A850 would suggest that this isn't enough -a major product feature would have to be omitted. I'm guessing that would have to be the fancy AF system, which would leave the camera as little more than the 5D MkII with a slightly improved sensor. Unless Canon can knock them out at a very low price point, which might disrupt their APS-C line-up (refer also to my first point about the A900/A850 margins).

Is the 18MP sensor really only slightly better? I've seen some amazing sample images.
And think about the 5DC - it was revolutionary because it had an amazing sensor put into an affordable body. Couldn't the flip side of "devaluing" the 1DX sensor be more like they put the flagship sensor in an affordable body (if that sales pitch worked once...)
Also - the non-fancy AF these days is still better than the 5D mkII's. So it would be more like a 5D mkII with a better sensor (slightly or more) and a slightly better AF. Seems reasonable to me for a true MkII refresh.

I dunno, don't mind me. That's just what I want. And I'm only coming from a wish list point of view, not necessarily logical one.

I was referring to the 22MP sensor in the 5D MkIII not the new 18MP FF sensor from the 1D X as the one that is only slightly better than the old 21MP sensor (from the 5D MkII and 1Ds MkIII). It's too early to tell exactly how well the 1D X sensor will perform.

As for my devaluing argument: logically, choosing to put the 18MP as opposed to the 22MP sensor in a budget FF camera must either devalue the 1D X or the 5D MkIII. Canon would either be choosing the 18MP sensor over the 22MP model because it is cheaper, or because they feel it is better. The first case would devalue the 1D X, the second would devalue the 5D MkIII -both cameras that would be marketed at a higher price point. Thus, I would argue that the 22MP sensor is the logical choice for any budget camera, which would imply that Canon would need to find other ways to differentiate it from the 5D MkIII.

 

[distant.star]

.
This is really only two DSLR cameras. Maybe just one.

The mirrorless is not a DSLR. That reduces it to three.

The 1DX will actually be announced/delivered during this period. That reduces it to two.

And given their recent history, if they announce two cameras, they'll probably only be able to deliver one.

This has become a company with irresponsible management. If you went to a Chevrolet dealer and he promised to deliver a new car in three weeks -- you wouldn't wait months without explanation. You'd go get a good lawyer.

So, as always, we'll see what happens. I have unlimited patience, although I don't know if my T2i does. The shutter is starting to sound creaky.

 

[Orion]

I just wish they would release all these cameras at the same time so that we can decide on a mkIII or 1Dx or entry FF, etc etc etc

If I spend 3500 on a mkIII and find out that a new release just a few months later has better AF in video, etc than my 5D . . . . well it's a cause for grave concern. Actually . . when you say it like that: three - thousand - five - hundred - dollars.. . . . meh I wouldn't trade my mkIII for any other camera except a 1Dx. . . . . but still, . . . . "things that make ya go 'hmmm?'"

 

[hmmm]

My guess for intro FF -- Building on the T4i

Based on the T4i -- here's a guess: the new entry level FF will have a hybrid sensor and a new 24-90 3.5-4.5 STM kit lens. 18 or 22 MP. Pretty decent AF, though not the 45 pt rumored for the D600. Digic 5 of course, etc. It will have touchscreen, and perhaps an articulated LCD, which would be a first for FF dslrs.

That might make an interestingly different competitor to the 24MP D600, which is definitely coming out in the fall, if anything in rumorspace can be said to be definite.

 

[wickidwombat]

i really hope the big megapixel one isnt a 1D body

 

[unfocused]

Okay Canon Rumors Guy, time to be straight up with folks.

I assume the CR2 portion of the rumor is that there will be up to four new DSLR bodies announced in 2012.

Then, it appears the remainder of the post is simply repeating past speculation on what these might be. So, is it correct to give CR2 rating to the possibility of four new DSLRs but CR1 or less to the speculation about what they might be?

 

[thundermonkey]

I'm just about to pull the trigger on a 5D MK3 and I mostly shoot video, can someone please throw me a 'you're doing the right thing' bone. I'm worried that what Canon might do is make a video orientated entry level full frame borrow the AF technology from the new 650D/T4i.

Can you see where I'm coming from?

Personally, I'm waiting. In the same boat as you.

Same boat as both of you. Thinking I will hold on to my 60D for now, invest in a 24-70 and other equipment (just got a Glidecam woohoo!) and wait til end of the year to make the Mark 3 jump.

Enjoy the Glidecam. I use a Merlin and love it quite a good bit. I'm waiting to see the entry levels specs, it looks like a better cam for me since any upgrade from a 550D will be great.

Oh man I feel you, but honestly, the T2i isn't bad. I truly believe that a lot of upgrades are not 100% necessary, and that's why a friend of mine suggested I hold off on a new body for a while. I only had my 60D just over a year though it feels longer, I do feel like I would like something more substantial an upgrade than a 5DM3 for the price it is. Have you considered better lenses and lights to get better performance out of your cam? Well lit T2i footage can look really great.

 

[bdeutsch]

i hope one is an answer to the rumored nikon D600.

that would be the "entry level FF". If Canon doesn't release a competitor to the D600 (if it meets the rumored specs), they are going to get crushed in the DSLR market for most enthusiasts and many pros, I think.


Actor Headshots NYC | Gotham Family Photos | NY Wedding Photos

 

[FunPhotons]

I really hope the big megapixel IS a 1 series body. My dream, I'd buy it in a second.

 

[HurtinMinorKey]

If it helps, you guys should go to the MacRumors forum and watch all the dudes tear their hair out because Apple hasn't seriously updated their i-Macs or Mac Book Pros for years. Talk about long waits.

 

[dr croubie]

If the mirrorless doesn’t count against the 4 purported camera bodies, I’m unsure what else Canon could have up their sleeves for the EOS line.

How old is the EOS 1100D?
Looks up for renewal to me, 1200D could be the #4...

 

[fotoworx]

There might be some early 5DMKIII adopters with their noses out of place before the years out.

 

[Blaze]

If it helps, you guys should go to the MacRumors forum and watch all the dudes tear their hair out because Apple hasn't seriously updated their i-Macs or Mac Book Pros for years. Talk about long waits.

Didn't Apple just announce a new MacBook Pro with an amazing new "retina display" yesterday?
If if had another USB port or two and came with Windows 7, I'd probably buy one.

 

[sb]

A direct replacement for the 5D Mark II??? So what is the Mark III suppose to be?

I'm picturing a Mk2 sensor in a rebel body, swivel screen, and a "straight to facebook" button What a scary thought.

 

[dr croubie]

A direct replacement for the 5D Mark II??? So what is the Mark III suppose to be?

I'm picturing a Mk2 sensor in a rebel body, swivel screen, and a "straight to facebook" button What a scary thought.

You forgot the new instagram-enabled firmware...

 

[BCMAR15]

Since they're going the radio route on the flashes, how about a radio controller in the body?

One day:

A modular camera where you pick 1 of x bodies, a sensor, a buffer-- feel free to add to the list--and when you're ready ( i.e. "have the cash"), you can upgrade the component of your desire. So as tech evolves, so does (can) your camera.

And spare me the, "Canon won't 'cause they're greedy," crap. The ability to upgrade part of your camera would force other's to follow suit.

 

[wickidwombat]

If the mirrorless doesn’t count against the 4 purported camera bodies, I’m unsure what else Canon could have up their sleeves for the EOS line.

How old is the EOS 1100D?
Looks up for renewal to me, 1200D could be the #4...

i think they are going to kill the line off and replace with mirrorless, a cheap crappy mirrorless not an awesome APS-H mirrorless that they could so easily do

 

[dlleno]

There will be no point having an entry level FF unless Nikon comes out with one, otherwise they'll cannibalise 5D3 sales.

1100D
70D
3D - high MP FF

Sorry 7D users - your time is up.

and Canon walks away from the 1D4 market?

 

[RLPhoto]

This points even more to the 7DII being APS-H.

 

[wickidwombat]

This points even more to the 7DII being APS-H.

stop teasing me!