5 axis IBIS coming to next Canon EOS R series camera [CR2]
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What many have said they are waiting for. Once here, i’m Sure there will be one more must have feature to tout as to why Cannon is *******. 
Why would there be any doubt that Canon could get IBIS and lens IS to work together? They do this already (albeit in a more primitive way) for IS on video with the EOS M50.
I think it will be in the next generation ones, not the next model (which is going to be the more basic 26.2 MP one anyway, maybe the Pro ones can get it for well over 4000$).
In lens IS works best on long lenses, IBIS works best on short lenses, and the two of them together is better than either. And yes, this has been done before by the competition.....
But... We were told numerous times after EOS R announcement that IBIS is not necessary?
I've said it before on here:
The R series was rushed out the door. Canon puts together good products, so overall the R is a good camera. The control ring is brilliant, the feel of the camera is good, the lenses aside from the kit lens are spectacular (not that the kit lens is bad, it's just not as improved as you'd think it would be).
But the hardware driving everything is anemic, leading to video without chips fast enough to encode newer formats on the fly (leading to very watered down video), severely restrained autofocus modes when you want to take multiple shots fast, and lack of other features becoming standard in it's competition's price range like IBIS. (This feature requires processing to know how to adjust itself, and the chipset driving everything can't hump data fast enough).
I remember the rumors floating around on several sites that Canon was looking at using sony sensors in some new products. I'm actually wondering if they are considering using sony ARM chips that are used in multiple camera processing systems. These are built on smaller die technology and have faster throughput and processing. However it's just a programmable chip, which means it could still have Canon software running on them still. Both the chips canon uses now and the chips Sony makes for it's own (and other) cameras have the same reference ARM design at it's root. Sony's is just updated and on a smaller die process, which makes it faster.
The R series was rushed out the door. Canon puts together good products, so overall the R is a good camera. The control ring is brilliant, the feel of the camera is good, the lenses aside from the kit lens are spectacular (not that the kit lens is bad, it's just not as improved as you'd think it would be).
But the hardware driving everything is anemic, leading to video without chips fast enough to encode newer formats on the fly (leading to very watered down video), severely restrained autofocus modes when you want to take multiple shots fast, and lack of other features becoming standard in it's competition's price range like IBIS. (This feature requires processing to know how to adjust itself, and the chipset driving everything can't hump data fast enough).
I remember the rumors floating around on several sites that Canon was looking at using sony sensors in some new products. I'm actually wondering if they are considering using sony ARM chips that are used in multiple camera processing systems. These are built on smaller die technology and have faster throughput and processing. However it's just a programmable chip, which means it could still have Canon software running on them still. Both the chips canon uses now and the chips Sony makes for it's own (and other) cameras have the same reference ARM design at it's root. Sony's is just updated and on a smaller die process, which makes it faster.
Just one more reason to drool over the rf 50mm f/1.2L USM and look forward to a fully featured pro RF body.
Yowza!
Yowza!
It's not the Arm core in an Arm chip that does the heavy lifting for camera things, that's usually done by the ISP, DSP, GPU or a combibation thereof. Don't underestimate how much work it is to make all your 'camera' software work on a completely different architected while keeping the CPU portion the same.
Hallelujah!
OK, though really—the latest in-lens IS has been rated to 5-stops. How many stops do we consumers suspect are possible with IBIS and ILIS combined?
OK, though really—the latest in-lens IS has been rated to 5-stops. How many stops do we consumers suspect are possible with IBIS and ILIS combined?
As long as it's easy to disable, I'm fine with this development.
That's easy... Panasonic and Olympus both rate their respective dual IS/sync IS systems at 6.5 stops. Olympus body expected in Jan. 2019 is rumored at 7.5 stops. Beyond that Olympus has (jokingly) implied that rotation of the earth must be taken into consideration. Still doesn't correct subject blur though.
Based on my experience, and a rudimentary understanding of what reduces and increases blur, subject blur can be reduced with lens IS in certain common scenarios. Here's one: If you are camera shaking to the left for a moment, while the subject is turning his/her face slightly to the right at the same moment, the combined movements take a faster shutter-speed to overcome blur. So if my lens is "held" steady by IS, it reduces the speed of combined motions in opposite direction.
Bottom line, for portraits and events, IS works wonders. It isn't just for still lifes.
And then there's panning mode IS which can help reduce blur at angles to the direction of subjects in motion.
BSI and stacked sensor... and curved.
And one with good-quality on-chip ADC architecture for cleaner images.
I'll wait for that one.
I like the way Canon seems to go. Of course the sensors leave most to be wished for to me who shoots stills; but IBIS helps a ton for high-quality lenses that do not have lens IS (like Zeiss or Canon's 24-70).
I just hope it will be a solid design that's not prone to breaking if you happen to bang the camera mildly... (which just happens sometimes).
I just hope it will be a solid design that's not prone to breaking if you happen to bang the camera mildly... (which just happens sometimes).
Indeed "We don't do IBIS because in-lens IS is far superior" said the company while launching two high-end lenses without IS.
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