5D3...why only usb 2.0?

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ok...D800 has usb 3.0 for its big 36 megapixel file (75 MB Nef)

but for a pc user (my macbook pro early 2011 ...only usb 2.0 yet)...usb 3.0 is useful

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imho we'll see usb 3.0 in the next macbook pro..o imac
 
Because it's called Canon!!
They can put a 63 zone metering into 5D3 from their cheapest model Rebel T3 for next three years rather than using the latest one from the 1DX. In this way, they can also cut the AF point-linked spot metering feature off.(you can find this feature from all Nikon bodies)

Typical answers from Canon user:
1. Oh, that's good enough.
2. There's nothing wrong with it, it works well.
3. If you want this, buy the 1D.

IMO, this is how Canon treat their non-1D users, it's all about attitude. I don't believe they will put 61 point AF into 5D3 if D800 only has 24MP.
 
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Not having usb3 is not the end of the world. I've never copied my files directly from camera to pc. I find it impractical. Moreover, I think usb2 bandwidth is enough for tethered shooting (as long as live view output does not exceed 60MB/s).

BUT
I bought my motherboard in 2010. It has 2 usb3 ports. I'd expect new Canon cameras to have usb3 since it's backwards compatible. No users would complain, plus with usb3's 625 MB/s, Canon would have no restrictions bandwidth-wise to implement clean 1080p output* via usb.

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1920 * 1080 = 2,073,600
2,073,600 * 32bpp = 66,355,200 bits/frame
66,355,200 * 30fps = 237.3 MB/s
 
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i only need usb for tethered shooting.

i had great hopes that the 5D MK3 has gigabit ethernet.
in the end a gigabit ethernet chip costs next to nothing today.

usb 2 is a dissapointment.. i agree.
 
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USB 3.0 is a standard which wont reach a market penetration as its predecessors, since invention of Thunderbolt Intel decided to not support it and to use its own standard, which is just way better. So why would you include USB 3.0 in Camera for additional costs over 2.0 if 3.0 aint supported broadly and is going to die soon?
 
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simonxu11 said:
Because it's called Canon!!
They can put a 63 zone metering into 5D3 from their cheapest model Rebel T3 for next three years rather than using the latest one from the 1DX. In this way, they can also cut the AF point-linked spot metering feature off.(you can find this feature from all Nikon bodies)

Typical answers from Canon user:
1. Oh, that's good enough.
2. There's nothing wrong with it, it works well.

I don't give a damn whether the 5Dmk3 has a USB 2 or USB 3 port. A USB 3 card reader is a cheap one off expense (already bought one), and moving the card from the camera to the read & back again takes a few seconds (which I spend as it is), and I'd rather bitch about more important features.
 
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iso79 said:
The D4 doesn't have USB 3 either :P

Macs will never have USB 3. Heck I'm still waiting for Apple to put HDMI in their Macs.

Hmmm, maybe this isn't a bad thing. Since Apple tends to set trends among consumers, maybe Canon is holding out for Thunderbolt.
 
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Ellen Schmidtee said:
simonxu11 said:
Because it's called Canon!!
They can put a 63 zone metering into 5D3 from their cheapest model Rebel T3 for next three years rather than using the latest one from the 1DX. In this way, they can also cut the AF point-linked spot metering feature off.(you can find this feature from all Nikon bodies)

Typical answers from Canon user:
1. Oh, that's good enough.
2. There's nothing wrong with it, it works well.

I don't give a damn whether the 5Dmk3 has a USB 2 or USB 3 port. A USB 3 card reader is a cheap one off expense (already bought one), and moving the card from the camera to the read & back again takes a few seconds (which I spend as it is), and I'd rather bitch about more important features.

Ellens is correct here in the case of SDHC class 10 cards they are approx 25Mb/s or thereabouts this is around the limit of USB2.0 so for that purpose no reason for USB3.0 as the card transfer (read) wont reach USB3.0 speeds!
however im unfamiliar with CF speeds anyone?
 
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PhilDrinkwater said:
akiskev said:
Moreover, I think usb2 bandwidth is enough for tethered shooting (as long as live view output does not exceed 60MB/s).
Personally I disagree. USB3 or ethernet would have helped tethered shooting.
What is your objection?

akiskev said:
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BUT
I'd expect new Canon cameras to have usb3 since it's backwards compatible. No users would complain, plus with usb3's 625 MB/s, Canon would have no restrictions bandwidth-wise to implement clean 1080p output* via usb.

*
1920 * 1080 = 2,073,600
2,073,600 * 32bpp = 66,355,200 bits/frame
66,355,200 * 30fps = 237.3 MB/s
You disagree to that too? It was in the same message.
 
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Sometimes I feel that a new camera body is made "dirty" and soiled by the lack of total improvement, such as USB 3.0, and raw HDMI out, and the fact that why not have dual same cards. It's just little thingsa like that that get the blood boiling, when you know they made a great camera but they forgot to fix the little things. It's like taking a shower and forgetting to wash your face with soap. DAMN!

it's like the 'ol Nike saying: "just do it!" and stfu about it already!
 
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Octavian said:
Ellen Schmidtee said:
simonxu11 said:
Because it's called Canon!!
They can put a 63 zone metering into 5D3 from their cheapest model Rebel T3 for next three years rather than using the latest one from the 1DX. In this way, they can also cut the AF point-linked spot metering feature off.(you can find this feature from all Nikon bodies)

Typical answers from Canon user:
1. Oh, that's good enough.
2. There's nothing wrong with it, it works well.

I don't give a damn whether the 5Dmk3 has a USB 2 or USB 3 port. A USB 3 card reader is a cheap one off expense (already bought one), and moving the card from the camera to the read & back again takes a few seconds (which I spend as it is), and I'd rather bitch about more important features.

Ellens is correct here in the case of SDHC class 10 cards they are approx 25Mb/s or thereabouts this is around the limit of USB2.0 so for that purpose no reason for USB3.0 as the card transfer (read) wont reach USB3.0 speeds!
however im unfamiliar with CF speeds anyone?

Top of the line CF cards today are ~100MB/s. I'm uncertain whether the whole computer could read data that fast, esp in face of having to move the head to update file system structures (add file name to directory, update free space map, etc).

UHS-I SD cards should be about as fast. SanDisk has a 95MB/s UHS-I SDHC cards.
 
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I have a number of different ideas going through my head (possible licensing, low volume of part availability, power requirements) but haven't found anything to demonstrate what the actual problem is.

I've had a computer with USB 3.0 ports since 2008 but I have had zero devices that use it in all that time.

I do agree that USB 3 would help many kinds of shooting, and there's no problem with transfer speeds to a PC - if hard drive speeds are a problem then you need to set up RAID or maybe even use a SSD.

It would have been nice to roll out with the new cameras, but not essential. I think Canon is right to play it safe on the CF front too, although Nikon is moving quickly to the new QXD or whatever it's called, many users are not ready to move to a new format, or to deal with the smaller support base available for the new format.
 
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