Canon 7D Mark II Info? [CR2]

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D_Rochat said:
wickidwombat said:
fingers crossed for 27mp aps-h with 18mp APS-C crop mode :P

and maybe 8fps in APS-H 10fps in APS-C

Wouldn't that be something!

woops calculation fail APS-H would be around 30mp with an APS-C 18mp using the current 18mp pixel density
then use gapless micro lens tech improve iso same body as 5Dmk3 same battery same AF its probably not going to hit the iso heights of the 5Dmk3 or the 1Dx but it should still be a nice performer :P

ah dreams...
 
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Canon Rumors said:
Random Tidbits


A few randon things came in that go against some of things we’ve heard about the 7D replacement.
Two bits of info say an APS-C camera capable of 10fps is in testing, the same camera also has a variation of the 61pt AF system found in the 5D Mark III and 1D X. No mention of megapixels or any other features of the prototype.</p>

Is this really a CR2 tid-bit? It says so, but the text sounds a bit more like CR1.
 
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stevenrrmanir said:
How much? I bet it will be $2500! Too expensive IMO vs. other alternatives out here!

Assuming you've already got a bagful of Canon L glass, what alternatives are you suggesting? If the spec list is as detailed, and the build quality is on a par with 5D3, I'd pay over $2k for it in a heartbeat.

Paul Wright
 
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pwp said:
stevenrrmanir said:
How much? I bet it will be $2500! Too expensive IMO vs. other alternatives out here!

Assuming you've already got a bagful of Canon L glass, what alternatives are you suggesting? If the spec list is as detailed, and the build quality is on a par with 5D3, I'd pay over $2k for it in a heartbeat.

Paul Wright
yep, especially if its APS-H :P
 
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Considering the price they will have to ask for such an animal as this proposed 7D2 it would have to have at least similar high ISO noise performance as a 5D2. I can't see the reason to upgrade to it unless it does. The 7D focus is already pretty good.

Kevin
 
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pwp said:
Assuming you've already got a bagful of Canon L glass, what alternatives are you suggesting? If the spec list is as detailed, and the build quality is on a par with 5D3, I'd pay over $2k for it in a heartbeat.

Paul Wright

Why do you have a bag full of L glass ??? Why would anyone have a bag full of any kind of glass ??? If you don't use a lens (or anything else) at least once a week, you are better off renting it as needed.

If a lens doesn't regularly make me money, I see no need to own it. YMMV
 
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wickidwombat said:
The Big question is will the 7DII announcement and resulting camera cause the same level of dummy spitting, carry on and trolling that happened after the 5Dmk3 announcement? :-*

Errrgh, I hope not. But somehow I doubt it. There isn't as much at stake here. The 5DMk2 - 5DMk3 transition was a long and emotional ride for a lot of shooters. While the 7D2 release will be a huge interest generator, I doubt it will attract the same levels of indulgent, highly unattractive behaviour.

But just in case; moderators do you have a plan?

Paul Wright
 
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c.d.embrey said:
pwp said:
Assuming you've already got a bagful of Canon L glass, what alternatives are you suggesting? If the spec list is as detailed, and the build quality is on a par with 5D3, I'd pay over $2k for it in a heartbeat.

Paul Wright

Why do you have a bag full of L glass ??? Why would anyone have a bag full of any kind of glass ??? If you don't use a lens (or anything else) at least once a week, you are better off renting it as needed.

If a lens doesn't regularly make me money, I see no need to own it. YMMV

I have a bagfull of glass because I take lots of pictures in different scenarios. For example I have 4 lens that cover 200mm

70-200 f/2.8 II
70-300L
200 f/2.8
200 f/2

I also have 3 bodies - ff, 1.3 and 1.6, I usually take 2 bodies out with me, quite often with 2 of the above lens mounted. For street work I go for the Uncle Bob look with the 7D and black lens using the 50 f/1.4, 135 or 200 f/2.8

And they all get used regularly but renting is not an option as it is too expensive. I have had my 135 for 5 years now - I bought it used to go on my film camera.
 
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Keep the same 18MP, but make the DR better and improve both the low end noise as well as the high end noise.

For me personally a clean ISO 1600 would be perfect, comparable to the ISO 400 of the 40D.

The AF is working just fine for me! I recently picked up a 7D after coming from a 40D. The rumors that the 7D was not to be upgraded, and the price of the 5DIII, made me go for it. If a new 7D comes out, I will buy it in a heartbeat.
 
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wickidwombat said:
The Big question is will the 7DII announcement and resulting camera cause the same level of dummy spitting, carry on and trolling that happened after the 5Dmk3 anouncement? :-*

YES ...
... IF Canon wants to charge USD/€ 2.500 or more for a 7D II
... AND IF Nikon brings out an APS-C D400 at the same
... AND IF such a D400 also bests the Canon by quite some margin and costs USD/€ 600 less
... THEN there will be many more critical threads and posts than with the overprized 5D3 vs. D800 situation.

rightfully so! 8)
 
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AvTvM said:
wickidwombat said:
The Big question is will the 7DII announcement and resulting camera cause the same level of dummy spitting, carry on and trolling that happened after the 5Dmk3 anouncement? :-*

YES ...
... IF Canon wants to charge USD/€ 2.500 or more for a 7D II
... AND IF Nikon brings out an APS-C D400 at the same
... AND IF such a D400 also bests the Canon by quite some margin and costs USD/€ 600 less
... THEN there will be many more critical threads and posts than with the overprized 5D3 vs. D800 situation.

rightfully so! 8)

I was under the impression that the D700 replacement would be the 7DII competitor? Or it the Nikon D400 the next after the D700 - never could figure their numbering scheme
 
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as current 7D user I will only upgrade to 7D II, if sensor performance is SIGNIFICANTLY improved. Especially low ISO [banding] and DR across the range. I do not need or want more MP, 18 is plenty fine. APS-C is also perfectly fine with me [APS-H will definitely not happen!] and I do not need or want more fps [even 5-6 fps are sufficient for my use]. Video crap? Could not care less. :-)

In terms of features, I would want a fully working Auto-ISO model [better than 5D 3, at least as good as Nikon D800/D4], fully articulated LCD plus a multifunctional radio-module in the hump: radio-masterflash-controller (RT-system) plus GPS plus WiFi. In that case I would happily forego the pop-up flash. That would also allow for even better weather-sealing. :-)

And a price tag of less than USD/Euro 2000 for the package.

If I had really free choice, I would just love to get these specs in a compact mirrorless Canon - without any compromises in image quality, performance and useability. Provided the EVF is really top-notch. For such a mirrorless 7D II with EF-/EF-S adapter INCLUDED in the package (!) I would be willing to pay up to USD/Euro 3000. :-)
 
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good to see that I am not the only one with 400d waiting for an update ;-)

I am not interested in 7D2, but if it gets a new AF, then 70d should get the AF of the 7D (which said to be very good) and 650d the AF from 60d (at least). The two lower cameras I consider. Give me AFMA please ;-)
 
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3 pages already and no one says there will be no 7D2 (like in many, many other posts).... what happened with the ''conspiracy theory''???

Back to the topic...

I strongly wish to remain at 18MP; regarding AF i want a 1D4 AF system, more than the ''reduced'' 61 AF points of 1Dx and 5D3....

regarding the price .... hmmm, certainly wil be over $2000
 
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I have sold my 7D, but I will probably get a similar camera in the future. I'd love a "baby 1DX", high build quality, large enough body to match full-frame lenses (as the 7D) and an APS-C sensor with good ISO performance.

I'd like a ~12 megapixel sensor, suitable for hand-held use, but since Canon has mRaw and sRaw a little higher count would not hurt. Make it a well-built full-featured action camera for tele work and it will be truly great.

The (not-so-unlikely) scenario that instead 60D and 7D is merged into a 70D with lesser build quality and there really won't be any "pro" APS-C body in the future would be disappointing I think. I don't like the current trend among many manufacturers of packing great electronics into mediocre bodies.
 
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For those wanting it to remain at 18MP, I really can't see that happening UNLESS they use the same sensor again. If they choose not to go high MP, I think they will do the 5D trick of just adding 1MP more than the previous model. 19MP to differentiate it clearly from the older model, while not significantly increasing the count.

As for those hoping for the 1D X like AF, remember the 5D3 version is cut down from that, and I think it likely we'd get the 5D3 version than the 1D X version. One key difference being the 1D X version also uses the RGB metering sensor to assist with tracking, whereas the 5D3 has the same two colour zone system as the 7D. I'd love to have the 1D X version in a 7D2 at any cost.
 
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DzPhotography said:
not really interested, unless they come up with a sensor that has much better high ISO performance...

8fps & AF-system of my current 7D satisfies my needs completely

Ditto. The ISO performance on the current 7D is my only real complaint. But it would also be nice to get the Auto ISO upper limit feature of the 60D. Wouldn't want to see an upgraded 7D be physically bigger or heavier. The 60D feels more comfortable in my hand than the 7D but I picked up a used 7D because of the better AF and the AFMA feature. I never had a use for the swivel LCD screen of the 60D - maybe because I don't do street or concert photography.
 
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