Canon EOS-1D X Mark II Known Specifications

GoldWing said:
Canon Rumors said:
Below is what we think are some of the confirmed specifications for the upcoming Canon EOS-1D X Mark II.</p>
<p>Specifications:</p>
<ul>
<li><em>Resolution:</em> 22mp</li>
<li><em>Media:</em> 1 CFast / 1 CompactFlash</li>
<li><em>LCD:</em> Some touchscreen functionality</li>
<li><em>Video:</em> 4K at 60fps (other video specifications unknown)</li>
<li><em>Feature:</em> GPS</li>
<li><em>Feature:</em> Intervalometer</li>
<li><em>Price:</em> $5999 USD (could fluctuate slightly)</li>
<li><em>Announcement:</em> First week of February 2016</li>
<li><em>Shipping:</em> April 2016</li>
</ul>
<p>Unconfirmed Specifications:</p>
<ul>
<li><em>Feature:</em> 4K RAW video mode for frame capture for stills.</li>
</ul>
<p>We have no solid confirmation of stills frame rate, processor type, battery type or LCD screen size. We do know that the Canon EOS-1D X Mark II will not feature built-in wifi.</p>
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An LCD screen with touch??? I'm a sports photographer.... PLEASE STOP placing functions on a PRO camera for people who use their equipment like a hammer that can go wrong!! I don't want press functions on my LCD. I need it to be hard as STEEL. That's it!!! What is canon thinking?

Two type of CF cards???? Now I have to carry around two types... "Just in case" - This is not smart. Pick one or the other. And what happens when I need one Card for me and another for a client??? I have to shoot with two different cards and change my workflow in inventory??? What the HECK is Canon thinking???

The new 1DX should be a tool... not a toy!!!

A lot of us shoot in very extreme conditions that why we use a 1DX.

Hahaha! The 1DX already has an LCD screen. A touch screen isn't softer or more fragile. Some guys want a touch screen.

Canon is thinking about how to have mass appeal for the product. They are real good at that. Our personal likes are not as important as what the mass market desires. I guess you could always buy a couple of the current 1DX and wait for the next upgrade cycle. That's probably what I'm going to do. Probably a lot of us will.

Watch the espresso man! ;D ;D ;D

So, are you going to buy a 1DX Mark II?
 
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applecider said:
Different specs to obsess over:

How about USB 3.0 or better yet in terms of speed but worse in compatibility USB-C? This would be a kick ass way to transfer photo cards. Any reason that a USB stick could not be used for image capture directly, if supported by canon? Better USB 3.0 sticks are quite fast approaching 200MB/s writes like the sands extreme at 220MB/s.

Will it retain the ethernet port?
since the 7D Mark II has a usb 3.0 port, i would expect that to be a no brainer, and I'm sure it will continue to have the gigabit lan port.
 
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CanonFanBoy said:
ecka said:
Alastair Norcross said:
ecka said:
Yes, please, dual CF or dual CFast or nothing.
;)
Are you really saying that you would prefer a 1DX II with no card slots at all to one with mixed slots? :)

You know, CF, CFast, UHS1,2,3, XQD ... it is all old tech and it's already limiting your camera potential. I would prefer a built-in memory storage, next gen SSD, NVME, NGFF, 3dXpoint, whatever works best.

YES! I've wondered why nobody puts a SSD in these things.

Waiting for 3dXpoint :), which should be much cheaper and a lot faster.
 
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CanonFanBoy said:
ecka said:
Alastair Norcross said:
ecka said:
Yes, please, dual CF or dual CFast or nothing.
;)
Are you really saying that you would prefer a 1DX II with no card slots at all to one with mixed slots? :)

You know, CF, CFast, UHS1,2,3, XQD ... it is all old tech and it's already limiting your camera potential. I would prefer a built-in memory storage, next gen SSD, NVME, NGFF, 3dXpoint, whatever works best.

YES! I've wondered why nobody puts a SSD in these things.
Exactly my thoughts. Why they can't have some internal storage? It's cheap. A camera that costs around 6K they can afford to add a 1tb drive and one extra card storage.
 
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applecider said:
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I still believe that WIFI is possible to build into the body if canon was motivated enough, especially as somewhere in the grip there could be room for an antena.
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As long as the body is built with any kind of metal.
The answer is no.
Please do not try to tell me it works with mobile phones.
They do not put the antennas behind metal.
But behind really strong plastic materials.
The reason is called natural laws.
(Source, i studied electronics and basic radio technology in high school).

And putting the antenna low is always a bad idea.
The higher the better.

I use the WFT-6(B) together with my 1Dx bodies.
I regularly work with something called Shoot it live.
Which is a service for publishing photos instantly on a web site, transmitting with FTP directly from the camera.
(One example form when i used it, on assignment for a major Swedish newspaper, during the last Swedish speedway championship final:
http://www.expressen.se/sport/motor/folj-andra-sm-finalen-i-speedway--direkt-har/ ).

And i would prefer more stable connections and higher speeds more than to have it built into my cameras.

Having the antenna outside the body does make a serious difference in stability and speed.
While working on bigger event, like pro hockey games, with a lot of radio interference. i which i could use Ethernet more often.
Sadly that's usually not possible.
Having a less realizable WiFi solution is something that's just not an option to me. Or any other professional photogs that just need things to be as stable as possible.

Also, i would love to have transmitter images automatically write protected. Would make a serious difference to me on my assignments.
(When the camera is transmitting a image file. You cant write protect any images at all.
Which causes me some problems and unnecessary stress that i could do without.
Write protect is the absolutely best way for me to know which files i transmitted during the event. When i have transferred them to my computer. For now the transferee images gets a "icon" in the camera. But it cant be seen in the commuter.
But i can very easily find the write protected files as "tagged" in Photo Mechanic, which is a key software in my workflow.

I do hope somebody from Canon are reading this.

Since i thin that the 1Dx is a great camera. And that some changes would make it even better.
Also, the possibility of write protecting transferred images are already in the cameras from "the dark side").

Would also love to have the possibility to crop my images before i transmit them.
That functionality are already in the 5Ds.
So i have good hopes that i will be found in the 1Dx mkII as well.
(When I'm shooting sports it just isn't possible to get the a good composting while taking the photos).
 
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rrcphoto said:
expatinasia said:
GoldWing said:
An LCD screen with touch??? I'm a sports photographer.... PLEASE STOP placing functions on a PRO camera for people who use their equipment like a hammer that can go wrong!! I don't want press functions on my LCD. I need it to be hard as STEEL. That's it!!! What is canon thinking?

Two type of CF cards???? Now I have to carry around two types... "Just in case" - This is not smart. Pick one or the other. And what happens when I need one Card for me and another for a client??? I have to shoot with two different cards and change my workflow in inventory??? What the HECK is Canon thinking???

The new 1DX should be a tool... not a toy!!!

A lot of us shoot in very extreme conditions that why we use a 1DX.

I agree completely, although I am not 100% averse to the touchscreen as long as it can be totally disabled. It may be useful in the office - although I don't really see how, but I doubt I would ever use it in the field.

Also. With so much talk about card slots. Does anyone wonder why Canon does not also put in any internal memory? The Samsung 950 PRO M.2 512GB PCI-Express 3.0 x4 Internal SSD is small, fast and reasonably priced at just over US$32X. It would be nice to have dual slots plus internal memory so you can shoot to what you like. What do you think?

except some small details:
a) it's not that small in relation to the spare room internally to the camera.
b) it will wear out over time.
c) m.2 SSD's run very hot.

a) It shouldn't be larger than a single CFast card slot.
b) Everything will wear out over time. My patience may wear out before they make everything right :)
c) Maybe they run hot when transferring data at full speed (which is what? over 1500MB/s nowadays?) for a longer time period.
 
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Until this very thread, I haven't seen any clamor for internal SSD in a stills cam. I dont see this happening with a 1DX type body. Using removable media is the preferred method. Offloading pictures from an internal drive means you have to stop shooting. That cant happen. I can unload and reload 128GB in about 5 seconds or less with removable media. These things already have internal buffers, which are short term memory devices meant to immediately dump onto another drive like a CF card
 
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PureClassA said:
Until this very thread, I haven't seen any clamor for internal SSD in a stills cam. I dont see this happening with a 1DX type body. Using removable media is the preferred method. Offloading pictures from an internal drive means you have to stop shooting. That cant happen. I can unload and reload 128GB in about 5 seconds or less with removable media. These things already have internal buffers, which are short term memory devices meant to immediately dump onto another drive like a CF card

Isn't it time for interchangeable plug-in card slot modules, so that users can choose any combination of card types they want?
 
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applecider said:
Different specs to obsess over:

How about USB 3.0 or better yet in terms of speed but worse in compatibility USB-C? This would be a kick ass way to transfer photo cards. Any reason that a USB stick could not be used for image capture directly, if supported by canon? Better USB 3.0 sticks are quite fast approaching 200MB/s writes like the sands extreme at 220MB/s.

Will it retain the ethernet port?

And how about wireless flash/ remote slave master control (both for flash and for remote triggering although I suppose that could be done through the flash)?

I still believe that WIFI is possible to build into the body if canon was motivated enough, especially as somewhere in the grip there could be room for an antena.

And BTW cfast and CF are not pin or electrically compatible, so no joy there for those hoping to have both in either slot. Though there are cards that convert just about anything they are made for HD cases or computers not cameras.

You ever shoot in rain?

Can't use something like USB stick on pro bodies.
 
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tpatana said:
applecider said:
Different specs to obsess over:

How about USB 3.0 or better yet in terms of speed but worse in compatibility USB-C? This would be a kick ass way to transfer photo cards. Any reason that a USB stick could not be used for image capture directly, if supported by canon? Better USB 3.0 sticks are quite fast approaching 200MB/s writes like the sands extreme at 220MB/s.

Will it retain the ethernet port?

And how about wireless flash/ remote slave master control (both for flash and for remote triggering although I suppose that could be done through the flash)?

I still believe that WIFI is possible to build into the body if canon was motivated enough, especially as somewhere in the grip there could be room for an antena.

And BTW cfast and CF are not pin or electrically compatible, so no joy there for those hoping to have both in either slot. Though there are cards that convert just about anything they are made for HD cases or computers not cameras.

You ever shoot in rain?

Can't use something like USB stick on pro bodies.

There's no reason they can't just have a recessed plug underneath the door for regular memory cards.

USB-C with Thunderbolt can do 40 Gigabits per second (five Gigabytes per second), it's actually the most bandwith of any interface on the market besides 32 lanes of PCI Express (that I know of at least, and MHL sounds awesome but I haven't seen one implemented yet).
If they just gave us a big cavity to hold a modular memory card adapter that interfaces with the camera using USB-C, then we could also just remove that and find USB sticks that fit.
 
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dilbert said:
tpatana said:
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You ever shoot in rain?

Can't use something like USB stick on pro bodies.

None of Canon's equipment is water proof. If you leave your camera or lens out in the rain and it stops working, Canon will not repair it under warranty.

If you're shooting in the rain or in otherwise misty/wet conditions, get a plastic cover for your camera.

So Canon should design their equipment to be less waterproof? I'm sure that would lead to more happy users.

Jack
 
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wildbirdimages said:
CanonFanBoy said:
ecka said:
Alastair Norcross said:
ecka said:
Yes, please, dual CF or dual CFast or nothing.
;)
Are you really saying that you would prefer a 1DX II with no card slots at all to one with mixed slots? :)

You know, CF, CFast, UHS1,2,3, XQD ... it is all old tech and it's already limiting your camera potential. I would prefer a built-in memory storage, next gen SSD, NVME, NGFF, 3dXpoint, whatever works best.

YES! I've wondered why nobody puts a SSD in these things.
Exactly my thoughts. Why they can't have some internal storage? It's cheap. A camera that costs around 6K they can afford to add a 1tb drive and one extra card storage.

I am afraid the next wish from some users will be a 28-300mm fixed lens. ;D
 
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dilbert said:
ecka said:
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a) It shouldn't be larger than a single CFast card slot.
b) Everything will wear out over time. My patience may wear out before they make everything right :)
c) Maybe they run hot when transferring data at full speed (which is what? over 1500MB/s nowadays?) for a longer time period.

If an SSD drive was no larger than a CFast card slot then it would be ... a CFast card.

No, not at all.
 
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ecka said:
dilbert said:
ecka said:
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a) It shouldn't be larger than a single CFast card slot.
b) Everything will wear out over time. My patience may wear out before they make everything right :)
c) Maybe they run hot when transferring data at full speed (which is what? over 1500MB/s nowadays?) for a longer time period.

If an SSD drive was no larger than a CFast card slot then it would be ... a CFast card.

No, not at all.

Actually, yes: http://www.4kshooters.net/2015/05/13/use-any-ssd-on-your-4k-cfast-2-0-camera-with-the-c-box/
 
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CanonFanBoy said:
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YES! I've wondered why nobody puts a SSD in these things.

Actually memory cards of all kinds and SSD use the same technology.
The only "big" difference are read and write speed.

Major reason is which interface you use.
When it comes to CF-cards.
The newest cards has reached the physical limit of which speed you can archive.

With CFast 2 there are already cards that practically have the same transfer speed as SSD.
Combined with the right kind of card reader this means that "download" time to the computer will be a lot faster then what's possible with CF-cards.
Something I'm looking forward to.

The technology used for SSD/memory cards also have limited lifetime.
It can only take a certain numbers of writings before it breaks down.
(Newer memory cards uses a technology that spreads the data all over the card to increase life time).
This means that the traditional kind off buffer memory is a lot more reliable.

The fastest Cfast cards that are available today has speeds around 500 MB/s.
Which is just the same as most SSD:s.

Therefore, newer technology as CFast 2 is basically SSD with another form factor. And some advantages from a usability point of view.

(For me as a sports photographer, needing to download cards to my computer in between periods of a game. Editing images and transmit them directly to several news papers. Speed is a crucial thing. Why i would actually preferred two CFast slots).
 
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dilbert said:
tpatana said:
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You ever shoot in rain?

Can't use something like USB stick on pro bodies.

None of Canon's equipment is water proof. If you leave your camera or lens out in the rain and it stops working, Canon will not repair it under warranty.

If you're shooting in the rain or in otherwise misty/wet conditions, get a plastic cover for your camera.

You obviously haven't touched any of the pro bodies, if you're mixing that bad terms "weather sealing" and "water proof". None of the bodies are water proof (save D10 and those), but the 1D bodies can take quite plenty rain and still keep going.

So adding some USB-slot for your thumb stick would severely impact the weather sealing.
 
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