Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Spec List [CR1]

NorbR said:
jebrady03 said:
You know how I now you're (partial 40 year old virgin reference) not someone who knows what they're talking about rumor sender? 9 FPS.
Ain't happening. Not a chance.

May I ask why not?

If I had to bet, I would probably bet on something a bit lower as well, but I don't see why 9 fps would be so shocking.

Mechanically, if they can make a full-frame size mirror flip at 14fps in the 1DX, they can easily make it 9 in the 5D series.
Specs wise, it's far enough from the 14fps that there is no real threat to the product line differentiation.
It's close to the 10fps in the 7D, but Canon would be happy to sell anyone a 5D instead of a 7D, so no problem there.
Don't know the precise specs of Digic 7, but I don't imagine there would be a major data throughput problem with 28MP @9fps (28*9 is roughly equal to 50*5, so if the 5Ds can ...)

It may be a wish rather than a prediction, but it's not a completely inaccessible wish - or am I missing something?

You're probably missing one Digic chip. 1D and 7D series, as well as 5Ds/r are dual Digic, whereas 5D, 5DMk2 and 5DMk3 are single Digic so, most probably, the 5DMk4 will be single Digic, too. In addition, there might be reasons other than processing power for limiting the burst speed to approx 7 fps.

The previous rumor indicating 24MP and 7-8 fps appears more realistic.
 
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In an ideal world I'd love to say, post announcement, that Canon have created a camera that should last another 4 year cycle easily and that the buffer, write speed, FPS and resolution are enough.

But it's a big ask. I can believe 9fps because of the D500, I can believe 28mp as it's the momma bears porridge of the current resolutions, I can believe red AF points and the same AF setup as the 1DX.

I really, really hope that they do not screw us dual card writers with standard UHS-1 SD though.
 
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bjornjd said:
davidmurray said:
Touchscreen? How will they cope with noses hitting the touchscreen?

When you look through the viewfinder you probably have the screen turned off ;)
My old old Canon Digital Rebel had a sensor that told the camera if you were looking through the viewfinder.

IglooEater said:
davidmurray said:
Touchscreen? How will they cope with noses hitting the touchscreen?

Easy- proximity sensor in or around the viewfinder. The touchscreen would be deactivated when ones eye is at the VF

Canon has been putting out touchscreen DSLRs for many years now and possibly one of the most responsive and easy to use. This will function just like all of the others with a sensor near the eye viewfinder that will turn off/deactivate the touchscreen. There is also a way to do this same thing with ambient light sensors inside the viewfinder, but those are not nearly as accurate in dark conditions.
 
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dilbert said:
kaihp said:
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28MP * 9fps = 252MP/s, which is significantly higher than the ~171MP/s extrapolated from the 1DX:5D3 ratio. Sounds unlikely to me, although it could explain the switch to a newer DIGIC.

Sound logic but the change in DIGIC means all bets are off in trying to come up with a good estimate.

It may be that a single DIGIC 6 isn't enough to deliver 4K, so Canon are going to DIGIC 7 which does.

Reviewers talking about 4K video in non-video cameras are bringing up the topic of heat as an issue that cameras aren't necessarily dealing well with. Wonder how the 5DIV will go.

Oh, yes, it is strange for DIGIC 7 to be so soon after DIGIC 6 ... maybe DIGIC 7 is just late (And is why the 5DIV is late) and should have been in the 1DXII?

Actually, it's DIGIC 6+ to DIGIC7. Add to that, that Canon already have a "DIGIC 7" out there in the PowerShot G7 X Mark II :o

So yeah, all bets are off. Including that the rumor is actually correct or not :D

KarstenReis said:
Hoping for all autofocus points at f/8 like the 1DX2.
Yeah, me too. With the 16/41pt AF module spec, it seems that Canon is doing the same as in 1DX/5D3: putting the same AF module (but not processor) in there, so an all-f/8 would be likely.
 
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It blows my mind that there's so much misinformation/misunderstanding out there about Canon's touchscreen implementation. Here's a post I wrote back in November of last year, which honestly was about 2 years after the last time any such post should ever have been written on the subject...

jebrady03 said:
I'm sure this has been beaten to death by this point... But I have a stick handy and some time to kill...

This is what the screen of the 70D looks like when you're shooting with it (on the left) vs the screen on the 6D when you're shooting with it (on the right)

20151124_172417 by Jonathan Brady, on Flickr

If you touch ANYWHERE on the 70D except for the bottom left hand corner where the "Q" is, the screen does NOT respond. AT ALL. EVER. Once you touch the "Q", THEN the screen becomes active and you can touch any of those parameters and change them via the touchscreen. Touch the "Q" again, and the screen is, once again, dead. Holding the camera up to your face will NOT touch the "Q" area of the touchscreen unless your nose protrudes from your lips. Seriously. I'm not trying to be funny. That's where your nose would have to be to make contact with the "Q" on the touchscreen. Protruding... from... your... mouth... ...yep... Well, that is... IF you have a normally sized head. If your head is literally twice the size of the average human head, then I suppose your nose would easily press the "Q" button. Speaking of "Q"... did that last bit of information cue all the touchscreen haters who insist their nose would touch the touchscreen and change all the settings?

Anyway... That was for all of the folks who (obviously) have never used a Canon camera with a touchscreen and who either said they wouldn't use it because they're worried they'd constantly change settings with their face or said "it would be great if it could be turned off".

Now... regarding the robustness of articulating screens... Here's a thread I just posted on CR where I emailed Roger at Lens Rentals about the topic... http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=28423.0
 
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tomscott said:
Why 9fps and 41 cross type? No info about F8 focusing either

Take a look at the spec sheet for the 80D, in particular, it's autofocusing "moxie". You can better believe, the 5D Mk IV will outpace it in the autofocusing department, perhaps not by leaps and bounds, but certainly better. Also, read about the sensor performance in the 80D...real world reviews like those by Dustin Abbott (Dustinabbott.net) and Brian Carnathan ("TDP": the-digital-picture.com). These guys have great things to say about the 80D. Rest assured, the new 5D Mk IV will knock our socks off. Very similar to the upgrade between the 5D Mk II vs. Mk III. (And not the smaller improvements seen between the Mk I vs. Mk II.)
 
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dilbert said:
jebrady03 said:
It blows my mind that there's so much misinformation/misunderstanding out there about Canon's touchscreen implementation. Here's a post I wrote back in November of last year, which honestly was about 2 years after the last time any such post should ever have been written on the subject...
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So for folks like me that never use that never have that particular screen active on the LCD, touch screen will always be and staff off because the "Q" will never be accessible :)

No. It will never be accessible by using your nose.
 
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j-nord said:
28mpix @ 9 fps :o

That would definitely get my attention but I don't believe either number. 28mpix maybe, 9 fps (without mirror lock up) I seriously doubt.

There is zero chance the 5DIV shoots faster than 7FPS. There is no need for it to. The D500 will need to be answered as it is a brilliant camera, but that is for the 7DIII to do. I own a 5D3 and a 7D2. The 7D2 is an awesome camera. The APS-C sensor doesn't stand up to the 5D's in low light, but if you expose it properly it is excellent. Had to purchase it for a second body for the wedding season when it became clear the 5D4 wouldn't be launched in the Spring. Had intended on selling it when the 5D4 came out. I'lll be keeping it and selling the 5D3.

24-28MP seems reasonable. I'll be satisfied with 24, but will be ecstatic with 28. I don't want any higher than that.
 
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kaihp said:
Canon Rumors said:
28mp
DIGIC 7
9fps

28MP * 9fps = 252MP/s, which is significantly higher than the ~171MP/s extrapolated from the 1DX:5D3 ratio. Sounds unlikely to me, although it could explain the switch to a newer DIGIC.

...which is efffectively the same as the 50 MP x 5 fps of the 5DS rigs. Two chips = 100% possible to move that kind of data.

I think most people's disbelief with 9 fps is more 1DX2 cannibalization threat than a technical matter. The higher the fps gets on the 5D4, the more likely the cheaper 5D4 might steal 1DX2 business. Yes yes yes, there is far more to the 1DX2 than framerate, but some cannibalization will occur if the 5D4 framerate gets above a certain number.

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Chaitanya said:
As long as it doesn't cost more than 3200$, it looks like a good camera upgrade over 5D mark III. I would like to see the SD slot upgraded to UHS-II spec just to keep it up to speed with 4k video.

The 5D3 was $3499 at launch and retained its asking price far far better over the years than other Canon rigs. I would expect a similar price for the next variant: 4K, on-chip ADC, interchangeable focusing screens (we presume), some variant of the 1DX2 AF system, red servo points, etc. will have many photographers pulling out their credit cards on day one.

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ahsanford said:
I think most people's disbelief with 9 fps is more 1DX2 cannibalization threat than a technical matter. The higher the fps gets on the 5D4, the more likely the cheaper 5D4 might steal 1DX2 business. Yes yes yes, there is far more to the 1DX2 than framerate, but some cannibalization will occur if the 5D4 framerate gets above a certain number.

Canon doesn't care if the 5DIV cannabalizes some 1D X II sales, per se. They care about overall revenue and profit. If their marketing research determines that a 5DIV at 9 fps vs. 7 fps will allow them to sell it for an extra $100, that will yield far more revenue and profit than what would be lost in 1D X II sales because of that higher frame rate.
 
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bsbeamer said:
Morku said:
I really would love to know, if 4K @ 30 or 60 fps.

4K or UHD @ 60fps would make a LOT of people forget about those Metabones adapters on Sony camera bodies...

My guess is that it has the same architecture as the 1DxII for internal 4K storage, which uses 8 bit Motion JPG. It minimizes camera processing, but it is not good for post video work. I am hoping that it supports 4K external recording with a better codec, the same that the current 5DIII does.
 
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