Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Spec List [CR1]

[Ozarker]

I think most people's disbelief with 9 fps is more 1DX2 cannibalization threat than a technical matter. The higher the fps gets on the 5D4, the more likely the cheaper 5D4 might steal 1DX2 business. Yes yes yes, there is far more to the 1DX2 than framerate, but some cannibalization will occur if the 5D4 framerate gets above a certain number.

Canon doesn't care if the 5DIV cannabalizes some 1D X II sales, per se. They care about overall revenue and profit. If their marketing research determines that a 5DIV at 9 fps vs. 7 fps will allow them to sell it for an extra $100, that will yield far more revenue and profit than what would be lost in 1D X II sales because of that higher frame rate.

No one would buy $4k+ 5D4, would they?

- A

I sure would at 9-10 FPS and would still be totally not in the market for a 1DX Mark II because of price. If a person like me were to buy a 5D Mark IV with 10 FPS it wouldn't cannibalize 1DX Mark II sales at all, and there are a whole lot of "me" out there.

The 5D Mark III was released 3 or 4 years ago. $4k is the new $3.5k

Besides, the assumed "bump" in price to offset 1DX II cannibalized sales still assumes that the market for the 1Dx II is more profitable than the 5D IV market. I don't know, but I'd guess the 5D market volume is vastly more profitable than the 1DX Mark II's.

I think having to increase the 5D mark IV price by $500 to offset the "sales cannibalization" caused by a still 6 or 7 FPS difference between the two is way off base. Firing off a 5D mark IV (@9 FPS and a 5D mark III (@6FPS) at the same time as a 1DX mark II at the same subject would still leave the 1DX Mark II winning. It beats the two 5D models put together. There's a yuge difference between the two cameras.

 

[ajfotofilmagem]

Do you guys think this camera will have dual pixel AF function? I really love that feature.

The possibility is 99%.

 

[unfocused]

...For weddings, I would choose a 5D3/4 over a 1Dx 1/2 any day. It's lighter, cheaper, easier to handle...and it's got that amazing silent shutter mode...

...The 1DX2 has silent shutter, anti-flicker, faster flash sync and spot metering at any AF point... any chance we'll start seeing 1DX2 break up the dominance of the 5D3 at weddings?

Just to be clear. Silent shutter on the 1D X II is a bit of a joke. Nothing like the 5D or the 7D. I expect that Canon may possibly need to hold down the frame rate in the Mark IV in order to preserve the silent shutter in the 5D. The 1D X II "silent" shutter is not going to please many wedding photographers.

 

[transpo1]

As someone who's waiting to see what Canon does with the 5DIV video features, I'll have a hard time justifying $3600 (assuming that's body only) when I can buy an A7RII or A7SII for less and with probably better dynamic range. I love the 5DIII, but sorry, tired of Canon trying to gouge video users. And no, not a troll. Include the new 24-105 for $3600 and I'm yours.

 

[arbitrage]

Here are the 5DIV specs....

24MP
7FPS
4K 30
1DX2 all f/8 focusing with red points
ISO 25600
Low Iso DR improvements similar to 1DX2 and 80D
Addition of all the little features that have been brought out with the 7D2 and 5DSR like EC with auto ISO, anti-flicker, intervalometer, etc...

That is all you will be getting....pipe dreams of 30MP and 9FPS are just that.....

 

[K]

Here are the 5DIV specs....

24MP
7FPS
4K 30
1DX2 all f/8 focusing with red points
ISO 25600
Low Iso DR improvements similar to 1DX2 and 80D
Addition of all the little features that have been brought out with the 7D2 and 5DSR like EC with auto ISO, anti-flicker, intervalometer, etc...

That is all you will be getting....pipe dreams of 30MP and 9FPS are just that.....

I agree with the above. These will be the most likely specs.

 

[Ryananthony]

although it won't happen, I would love a custom function button in the same place as the depth of field preview button on the battery grip for when shooting vertically. I use the depth of field preview button for IS and its a reach with when vertical. I would also accept the button to be moved a little bit lower on the body.

 

[-1]

Touchscreen? How will they cope with noses hitting the touchscreen?

When you look through the viewfinder you probably have the screen turned off
My old old Canon Digital Rebel had a sensor that told the camera if you were looking through the viewfinder.

Touchscreen? How will they cope with noses hitting the touchscreen?

Easy- proximity sensor in or around the viewfinder. The touchscreen would be deactivated when ones eye is at the VF

Canon has been putting out touchscreen DSLRs for many years now and possibly one of the most responsive and easy to use. This will function just like all of the others with a sensor near the eye viewfinder that will turn off/deactivate the touchscreen. There is also a way to do this same thing with ambient light sensors inside the viewfinder, but those are not nearly as accurate in dark conditions.

If your nose is reasonably sized, like my fathers it will hit the screen way before the eye eclips the finder...
Touch screens are designed and introduced to put a limited lifespan on the camera. Further, I live a winterland and do not wanna depend on special gloves to operate a camera.

 

[bjornjd]

If your nose is reasonably sized, like my fathers it will hit the screen way before the eye eclips the finder...
Touch screens are designed and introduced to put a limited lifespan on the camera. Further, I live a winterland and do not wanna depend on special gloves to operate a camera.

A touch screen will NOT be in the way of the photographer on the 5DIV, just as it is not in the way in the 1DXII, or 80D.

It is not like the touch screen removes functionality. If the touch part would stop to work, you would still be able to operate the camera.

touch to focus together with dual pixel AF is amazingly good and I do hope we get it in the 5DIV.

 

[winfel]

If your nose is reasonably sized, like my fathers it will hit the screen way before the eye eclips the finder...
Touch screens are designed and introduced to put a limited lifespan on the camera. Further, I live a winterland and do not wanna depend on special gloves to operate a camera.

You've never had a Canon with a touch screen, have you?

• The sensor does not just turn it of when the viewfinder is touched but even a few centimeters before
• Even if it would not you would not accidently do anything because you would have to activate touch functionality by clicking on the Q in the corner of the screen first
• If you should not like it you could turn it off alltogether
• Keep your gloves and use it like before

Even with touch screen cameras you do not have to use the touch funcionality. I have a 100D with a touchscreen but as my 6D and my 7D do not have one, I tend to forget about it and use it just like the other cameras without a problem.

 

[Mr Majestyk]

Here are the 5DIV specs....

24MP
7FPS
4K 30
1DX2 all f/8 focusing with red points
ISO 25600
Low Iso DR improvements similar to 1DX2 and 80D
Addition of all the little features that have been brought out with the 7D2 and 5DSR like EC with auto ISO, anti-flicker, intervalometer, etc...

That is all you will be getting....pipe dreams of 30MP and 9FPS are just that.....

Highly doubtful and you think 5DIV will have same ISO or less than 5D3.

Digic 7 will be ~ 100-120% faster throughput than digic 5 (based on each generational change seeing ~ 50-60% improvement), so even at 28MP easily able to support 9fps, which is still miles behind 1DXII fps and will not step on its toes. 5D3 showed 54% fps increase over 5DII, so 50% over 5D3 with two generations newer digic is plausible. ISO will run 100 - 51200 native and expansion will go to 204K, 1 stop less than 1DXII. 4K video will at least match 1DXII, they will not gimp this product. This will be seen as the better choice and fit for high end video tool. digic 7 will allow more advanced processing than digic 6 in hardware.

 

[Viper28]

Give or take a frame the 5D's frame rate has always been about 50% of the equivalent era 1D(s/x) body in normal operating mode so my money is on a 7-fps 5D4, bit slower than I'd like but I'd live with it.
28mpx will do very nicely for me ditto the AF system
The rest is just sugar on the cake really

 

[Dutchdavid]

Although I somehow doubt that the 5DIV will have some touch-screen functionality, it always makes me laugh when this issue comes up and people start screaming against it.
To me, it is always very obvious that the people who are so adamantly against touch-screen functionality have never used it, and do not how it actually works.

So let me clear up some misunderstandings:

first: Fear of (mechanical) weaknesses:
Touch screen is not necessarily linked to a „flippy screen" - as the new 1DxII clearly shows
So, from a mechanical point of view, nothing to worry about.

second: there is no reason that a non-movable („not-Flippy“) touch-screen should have more repair-issues that a conventional screen.
If replacement should be needed, it might be a little more expensive than a conventional screen - but the price-difference won’t be very much.

So, from a technical point of view… stop worrying.

third: Fear of losing button-functionality:
All camera-settings can still be reached and easily set using the regular buttons, if you like.
You might find however, that once you’re used to the touch-screen, it is very convenient.
So, for camera settings, you’ll have no disadvantages whatsoever - on the contrary.

fourth: fear of accidentally changing settings:
when you actually take your photographs, the touch-screen is automatically switched off when you half-press the shutter-release button.
As you have to actively press the „Q" or the „Menu" button the activate the touch screen, there is no danger that you will change anything by accident with you nose - or any other parts of your face.
As a side-note to this: Please realize that there are millions of cameras in users hands (from all different brands), that use touch-screen functionality, and have proven that there is nothing to worry about!

fifth: in replay / viewing mode: you still have all options available with the regular buttons - you do not lose anything here.
What you gain however, is the additional possibility to view your images as on a smartphone, with swipe and pinch etc.

So, from a usability-point of view… again… stop worrying.

So, to all of you who like to pound against touch screens: If you have personal negative experiences with touch screens… let us know! If not… what is all the fuss about?

Back to the upcoming 5DIV: This camera is definitely on my wish list, with or without touch-screen. But I think touch screen would be nice!

 

[Bernard]

One of the wedding shooters I second for uses a 1DX. Great camera

I have also used a 5DIII in the rain, snow and scorching heat. My 5DIII's have been to Brazil and Madrid in the heat of their sumemrs...Sri Lanka in the monsoon season...I've done Slovenian mountains in the snow...there is no problem with the 5DIII's build quality. It's very close to the 1DX. My 5DIII's are still going strong and i bought them th week thy were launched. The view finder is 100% and just as good as the 1Dx. Low light? Yes the 5DIII is just as good. I think you are running some kind of prejudice against the 5DIII. It was built for uk weddings....go ask Jeff Ascough.

Did I hit a raw nerve?
The question was "are any wedding pros using the 1DX?" and I answered that one of the pros I shoot for does and loves it.
How you went from that simple information into a raging rant is beyond me!
Do you feel so insecure that you need to disparage other working professionals' equipment choices?

It's not about you, never was. Someone wanted to know if the 1DX is used in that application, and the answer is yes. Nobody ever implied that other cameras can't be used, or that your own choice of equipment isn't working for you.

 

[Larsskv]

One of the wedding shooters I second for uses a 1DX. Great camera

I have also used a 5DIII in the rain, snow and scorching heat. My 5DIII's have been to Brazil and Madrid in the heat of their sumemrs...Sri Lanka in the monsoon season...I've done Slovenian mountains in the snow...there is no problem with the 5DIII's build quality. It's very close to the 1DX. My 5DIII's are still going strong and i bought them th week thy were launched. The view finder is 100% and just as good as the 1Dx. Low light? Yes the 5DIII is just as good. I think you are running some kind of prejudice against the 5DIII. It was built for uk weddings....go ask Jeff Ascough.

Did I hit a raw nerve?
The question was "are any wedding pros using the 1DX?" and I answered that one of the pros I shoot for does and loves it.
How you went from that simple information into a raging rant is beyond me!
Do you feel so insecure that you need to disparage other working professionals' equipment choices?

It's not about you, never was. Someone wanted to know if the 1DX is used in that application, and the answer is yes. Nobody ever implied that other cameras can't be used, or that your own choice of equipment isn't working for you.

I took a note with regards to the viewfinder. Yes, both are 100%, but the 1DX has a significantly larger viewfinder, and I much prefer it over the one in my 5Ds.

 

[-1]

If your nose is reasonably sized, like my fathers it will hit the screen way before the eye eclips the finder...
Touch screens are designed and introduced to put a limited lifespan on the camera. Further, I live a winterland and do not wanna depend on special gloves to operate a camera.

You've never had a Canon with a touch screen, have you?

• The sensor does not just turn it of when the viewfinder is touched but even a few centimeters before
• Even if it would not you would not accidently do anything because you would have to activate touch functionality by clicking on the Q in the corner of the screen first
• If you should not like it you could turn it off alltogether
• Keep your gloves and use it like before

Even with touch screen cameras you do not have to use the touch funcionality. I have a 100D with a touchscreen but as my 6D and my 7D do not have one, I tend to forget about it and use it just like the other cameras without a problem.

I just checked: I can operate my "M" with the nose but not with hand in glove... Whitout the gloves the fingers gets numb in winter weather... The "M" is a tad hard to operate without the tuchscreen... This camera will be memorebilia when the digitizer fails...

Sure: The 5 series could have hardware controls for while... But for how long? It is a semiprofessional bridgecamera...

 

[Dutchdavid]

Hi -1!
Since when is a 5D a semi-professional bridge camera? It is a full professional full-frame camera! Have you ever used it?

 

[tron]

Here are the 5DIV specs....

24MP
7FPS
4K 30
1DX2 all f/8 focusing with red points
ISO 25600
Low Iso DR improvements similar to 1DX2 and 80D
Addition of all the little features that have been brought out with the 7D2 and 5DSR like EC with auto ISO, anti-flicker, intervalometer, etc...

That is all you will be getting....pipe dreams of 30MP and 9FPS are just that.....

I agree with the above. These will be the most likely specs.

Me too. On the positive side if it's 24Mp it will probably have high iso capability closer to 1DxII than if it were 28Mp.

 

[Chuck Alaimo]

One of the wedding shooters I second for uses a 1DX. Great camera

I have also used a 5DIII in the rain, snow and scorching heat. My 5DIII's have been to Brazil and Madrid in the heat of their sumemrs...Sri Lanka in the monsoon season...I've done Slovenian mountains in the snow...there is no problem with the 5DIII's build quality. It's very close to the 1DX. My 5DIII's are still going strong and i bought them th week thy were launched. The view finder is 100% and just as good as the 1Dx. Low light? Yes the 5DIII is just as good. I think you are running some kind of prejudice against the 5DIII. It was built for uk weddings....go ask Jeff Ascough.

Did I hit a raw nerve?
The question was "are any wedding pros using the 1DX?" and I answered that one of the pros I shoot for does and loves it.
How you went from that simple information into a raging rant is beyond me!
Do you feel so insecure that you need to disparage other working professionals' equipment choices?

It's not about you, never was. Someone wanted to know if the 1DX is used in that application, and the answer is yes. Nobody ever implied that other cameras can't be used, or that your own choice of equipment isn't working for you.

The question wasn't, do wedding shooters use 1dx's - the question was will the 1dx2 become a dominate camera in the wedding field. I don't think the reply there was that off base. 5D series bodies are the go to for weddings because of the combo of build quality, features and yes - price. Are the 1D features nice, of course they are. But unless your banking 6k+ per wedding, the cost of a 1D series body is too high (unless you go with a previous generation version).

 

[kaihp]

Hi -1!
Since when is a 5D a semi-professional bridge camera? It is a full professional full-frame camera! Have you ever used it?

In the US, the 5D3 is marketed as a semi-pro camera, whereas it is marketed as a pro camera in the EU.