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Canon EOS 70D Coming in July? [CR2]
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I can only image how you feel seeing somebody with a Porsche going to the grocery store...
pj1974 said:
Right.
Everyone was crying foul when the 5D3 came out, but now we've come to see it as more than the sum of its parts.
Canon's trend lately has been to let the sensors settle and bring features down in price.
If they throw in a bunch of features that never used to come with cameras in that price range I'm sure it'll be worth every penny.
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I just want to finally know what the 70D will be so that I know if I can get the 60D now or should wait for 70D as backup/alternate to my 7D.
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Finaly we got some news about the long awaited 70D. Somehow it is silly to talk about what features will be included and what not, because we just can't know; but it is fun anyway.
I personaly belive that it will not have the SL1 sensor in it. Even if Canon was very slow with sensor development recently, and are putting almost 4 year old sensors in new cameras. That works quite well for low end cameras, but I do not think canon will pull this stunt for the 70D. The 60D was already a little dissapointment after the 50D. On the other hand the 70D needs quite some more features than the 700D to justify its price. And then there is Nikon and Sony; Canon needs to catch up.
I think It will be a new sensor, like rumored at the beginning of the year. GPS and WiFi will also be onboard, especially WiFi will become standard on cameras. It would not expect to much from the AF system and the body. These will be points where the 7DII will score, so Canon will hold back on these features. Thats okay with me, just give me a very sensitiv center AF-Point, and plastic for the body is nowadays very good.
Looking forward to the announcment.
I personaly belive that it will not have the SL1 sensor in it. Even if Canon was very slow with sensor development recently, and are putting almost 4 year old sensors in new cameras. That works quite well for low end cameras, but I do not think canon will pull this stunt for the 70D. The 60D was already a little dissapointment after the 50D. On the other hand the 70D needs quite some more features than the 700D to justify its price. And then there is Nikon and Sony; Canon needs to catch up.
I think It will be a new sensor, like rumored at the beginning of the year. GPS and WiFi will also be onboard, especially WiFi will become standard on cameras. It would not expect to much from the AF system and the body. These will be points where the 7DII will score, so Canon will hold back on these features. Thats okay with me, just give me a very sensitiv center AF-Point, and plastic for the body is nowadays very good.
Looking forward to the announcment.
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If Canon do release the 70D with same-ish sensor tech then it will pretty much be a disaster. 3 1/2 years without improvement in that area would be a very poor showing. Fluffing around with entry-level / rebel series cameras is possibly excusable, but with the more enthusiast models like the XXD series it would leave a sour taste.
It still could be an ok camera in other respects. And one reason Canon are less vulnerable on this point is that Nikon have their own set of issues (quality control, poor customer service, etc). Just read Thom Hogan.
Mind you, I still think Canon are in a strong position in the DSLR world due to the supreme quality of their lenses, esp. in areas like telephoto, wide-angle TS, macro and standard zoom. Bodies can be refreshed in 2 or 3 years, but revamping a lens portfolio might take closer to a decade. By far the most serious issue Canon have, as someone else pointed out, is the fact that they missed the boat on the mirrorless market.
It still could be an ok camera in other respects. And one reason Canon are less vulnerable on this point is that Nikon have their own set of issues (quality control, poor customer service, etc). Just read Thom Hogan.
Mind you, I still think Canon are in a strong position in the DSLR world due to the supreme quality of their lenses, esp. in areas like telephoto, wide-angle TS, macro and standard zoom. Bodies can be refreshed in 2 or 3 years, but revamping a lens portfolio might take closer to a decade. By far the most serious issue Canon have, as someone else pointed out, is the fact that they missed the boat on the mirrorless market.
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One feature I hope the 70D has (though I doubt it) would be wireless control of the new flashes. Not through a pop up flash, but through the actual radio signal the new generation of flashes are capable of. Quite frankly, I am AMAZED the 6D/5D3/1Dx did not incorporate this feature. Especially the 6D given GPS & WiFi. I would be happy to go without a pop up flash if it could control the new flashes wirelessly. I can't remember the last time I used my pop up for anything other than controlling off camera flashes.
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one thing is for sure... this shows how useless rumor sites are. 
the camera is pretty much final.
TV adds are produced.. and not ONE rumor site has good sources that can tell the specs.
all we have is different CR1 stuff.
at least (cough!!) 80% of all rumors say the 70D will have a 18MP sensor.
the 20% who say it will have a 22 or 24 MP sensor are probably just wishing.
and why should canon produce the SL1 sensor for only one camera?
beside the next M there is a good chance canon will put it into the 70D.
the camera is pretty much final.
TV adds are produced.. and not ONE rumor site has good sources that can tell the specs.
all we have is different CR1 stuff.
at least (cough!!) 80% of all rumors say the 70D will have a 18MP sensor.
the 20% who say it will have a 22 or 24 MP sensor are probably just wishing.
and why should canon produce the SL1 sensor for only one camera?
beside the next M there is a good chance canon will put it into the 70D.
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>I hope Magic Lantern can get 2k continuous raw video with a hack on the 70D. I'll probably need a 95mb/s card
>though. If they can do that, then I can forgive Canon for the same old sensor.
The 70D will most probably have SD Cards again, so I don't think that you'll gain much speed from it. The Speeds
written on SDCards are often far away from practical use, even the 60D had lousy results comparing to the 50D.
By the way... what would be the next number of this line? Canon 80D, then 90D and then? 100D (=SL1)... there you
have it!
>though. If they can do that, then I can forgive Canon for the same old sensor.
The 70D will most probably have SD Cards again, so I don't think that you'll gain much speed from it. The Speeds
written on SDCards are often far away from practical use, even the 60D had lousy results comparing to the 50D.
By the way... what would be the next number of this line? Canon 80D, then 90D and then? 100D (=SL1)... there you
have it!
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Ricku said:
Yeah, it's only 'soccer moms' that use the 60D isn't it? Nobody is waiting for the 70D at all.
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what good do these news do you if they are all nothing but rumors? last 4-5 "news" were all a complete and utter fail, im actually surprised how people get excited with every new rumor, CR2 or not. if i sneeze in my hand full of paint, most of it will just spray all around, but a few drops will bound to hit the target. this is what CR is.aj1575 said:
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whothafunk said:
Oooh! Get her!
If you don't like reading rumours, why come to a forum called "Canon Rumors"?
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Do we actually care about the 70D? I mean, feature- and capability-wise it has to be better than the 700D, yet be worse than the (rumoured) 7D2; and it will not be full-frame.
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Sella174 said:
I do. I do not need the AF-System of the 7D and that means I also won't need the 7DII. The 6D would be a nice package for my style of photographie, but I do not like to go full frame, because I do not like to spend so much money on equipment (it is not only the camera, but also the lenses, tripod, filters, camera bag...) everythings grows. This is also a point I do not like about going FF, everything is bigger an heavier. Sure the big viewfinder and the IQ is very nice to have. But I think a modern APS-C delivers enough IQ for an advanced amateur.
And here comes the 70D into play. It offers (should offer) a step up from the entry level xxxD. LCD on top for easier handling, more robust body, better IQ (again hopefully after the 60 dissapointment), and some other nice features I like to see (like WiFi or GPS). And all that at a nice price.
Yes, I do care about the 70D a lot.
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where have i stated i dont like reading rumors? what i said is that i dont get all super excited with every new rumor and start to write down what i expect the camera to have, over and over again.Fleetie said:
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