Canon EOS R5 Mark II Specifications

[peters]

I’m missing something. Or the rumor is. If not, sounds like very minor update. BSI? Meh, not really meaningful for a FF sensor.

This was also my first impression. Especialy no 4k240 (should be possible, if the 4 year old R5C can do 8k60) and no higher resolution looks quite a bit disapointing to me.

But I guess, the improvements may be between the lines. Maybe:
- much better DR, especialy in video mode (!!! This is a must, otherwise I cant see a real benefit, if these specs are true. DR may be a big improvement in video mode, since this is currently quite disapointing)
- much sharper 4k60 (and 4k120) image (current 4k60 image is not realy sharp...)
- 60fps is impressive, could be even without any limit, when writing to CFast Card?
- maybe way better AF and connectivity to smartphone and co.
- I hope for a much better HDMI out performance. Whenever I switch from shooting to review mode, it takes ages for the external screen to reconnect. Its super annoying, especialy in photo mode.

 

[peters]

I just received my 200-800. The funniest thing about it was that it was packed in a box the size of what an L lens would typically be, inside a carrying case. But since it isn't an L, and doesn't come with a carrying case, there was a cardboard box inside the cardboard box It included a kind of useless strap, but (yay) a lens hood. It's about the same weight as a 28-70 (though of course much longer), and the two can share 95mm filters. The ergonomics are good, but I miss a separate control ring + focus ring like the 100-500 has. The control/focus ring is also not clicky, obviously.

It was pretty cloudy when it came yesterday, and I haven't done much with it, but I snapped the photo below handheld in my back yard at 800mm, at 1/800 f/9 ISO 6400 on an R5. It's literally the only photo I took - I had only a couple of minutes. Pixel peeping, it doesn't look tack sharp at 800mm, but obviously, some of that's could be me.

I also own the 100-500. I don't think that it's an either/or. I do not like the 100-500 with a 1.4x extender (because of the protrusion at/reduction of minimum zoom). The autofocus on the 200-800 is very fast (and very usable); impressive, in my opinion, given the aperture.

In the grand scheme of things, I think I'm pretty happy owning/keeping both, though the overlap means I'd rarely, if ever, pack both with me.



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beautiful shot!
And the way the the background just completely disapears is crazy epic : )

 

[peters]

Err 70 is overblown on the Internet.

This is a "survivorship bias". Nearly everyone who got that error, will post it somewhere. But NONE of the other people, who didnt got the error will go out and report "I didnt have this error". If you search for an error in a camera with millions (?) sold exemplars, you will find people reporting it.
(I for example, nevet got that error in 4 years of extensive use in 3(!) R5 bodies, same for my 2 colleagues with R5 cameras)

 

[tron]

I didn't get that or any other error. My R5 has frozen once in the years I have it. That and it had a really BAD AF system when it had older firmware (it's fixed now).

 

[Jethro]

This is a "survivorship bias". Nearly everyone who got that error, will post it somewhere. But NONE of the other people, who didnt got the error will go out and report "I didnt have this error". If you search for an error in a camera with millions (?) sold exemplars, you will find people reporting it.
(I for example, nevet got that error in 4 years of extensive use in 3(!) R5 bodies, same for my 2 colleagues with R5 cameras)

You're right - there were multiple posters on CR (for eg) who very definitely did get it, and on multiple bodies! Suggesting it had something to do with combinations of settings. But it seems to have largely disappeared over time with firmware updates.

 

[David - Sydney]

I know. Sony put with it a lot or pressure on CaNikon to move forward, and this deserves a lot of respect. A strong competition is the best we users can hope for.

The A1 is great but at a great price too - at least compared to the R5.
The Type A cards have finally started dropping price and larger capacity.
It still can't record 8k raw though if that essential for you.

 

[Quack]

Man, wish they would have bumped up the MP on this sensor to compete with Sony. Between the news of the R5 staying at 45 as well as the R1 not being a larger MP jack-of-all-trades, this leaves me wishing for a little more with Canon. They\'ve taken an extra few years to get the R1 out...for what? No global shutter. No larger MP sensor to top the Z9 or A1. Seems like a major flop, IMO, like they tried to throw everything they could at it with the extra time but failed, so they\'re rolling these out.

If you actually take photos and just look at specs, you'll understand that there is little difference in a 45 and 61 mp sensor. You could just as easily ask why Sony can't compete with Canon and put out a great 45 mp sensor.

The R1 is exactly on schedule. A 4 years cycle for the 1 series camera. They did not take an extra few years to get the R1 out. If all that matters to you is MP, then I guess all the other big advances in the R1 mean nothing, but that's on you for being a spec lover rather than understanding their is much more to a camera. If MPs are all that matter, then why on earth are you not owning that great Sony A1 or the Nikon Z9? How embarrassed you must be that you have a lower MP camera than those.

 

[MartynV]

I have an R5 and find that the shutter provides a good degree of protection against dust when changing lenses. Hopefully, this isn’t true, since I neither have the time nor inclination to get a camera frequently cleaned.

Maybe Canon has some new dust reduction technology?

The upgrades look insignificant compared to the jump between EOS R to EOS R5.

 

[cohenfive]

We are expecting that the Canon EOS R5 Mark II will be announced before the end of April with availability coming a few months later. We don’t have a solid date, but we have been told that Canon has sent out some NDAs to a certain segment. We have pieced together a specifications list of

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Sounds like a Z8 with a Canon label and likely more expensive. That would be great especially as price comes down to the market. Stacked sensor is a big plus. I hope it comes out soon.

 

[scyrene]

Maybe Canon has some new dust reduction technology?

Internal fan to dissipate heat and blow dust away

 

[esspy2]

It would be nice to see the new processor decrease the time it takes to transfer FHD videos to my phone, give histograms, give level gauges, and give waveforms to the monitor during shooting. Greater efficiency in the new DIGIC processor might also help with battery life

Also, a compressed RAW option (like a7RV) would be great to use the high frame rate while saving on storage! Maybe a 22.5MP RAW option would be easy to implement. I’m excited to see what the new processor brings to the table.

 

[DhlcadR6]

It would be nice to see the new processor decrease the time it takes to transfer FHD videos to my phone, give histograms, give level gauges, and give waveforms to the monitor during shooting. Greater efficiency in the new DIGIC processor might also help with battery life

Also, a compressed RAW option (like a7RV) would be great to use the high frame rate while saving on storage! Maybe a 22.5MP RAW option would be easy to implement. I’m excited to see what the new processor brings to the table.

Canon already has CRAW for photos...

 

[koenkooi]

Canon already has CRAW for photos...

And the R1 rumours imply that future bodies could feature additional CRAW modes that are even more compressed.

 

[tbgtomcom]

I just received my 200-800. The funniest thing about it was that it was packed in a box the size of what an L lens would typically be, inside a carrying case. But since it isn't an L, and doesn't come with a carrying case, there was a cardboard box inside the cardboard box It included a kind of useless strap, but (yay) a lens hood. It's about the same weight as a 28-70 (though of course much longer), and the two can share 95mm filters. The ergonomics are good, but I miss a separate control ring + focus ring like the 100-500 has. The control/focus ring is also not clicky, obviously.

It was pretty cloudy when it came yesterday, and I haven't done much with it, but I snapped the photo below handheld in my back yard at 800mm, at 1/800 f/9 ISO 6400 on an R5. It's literally the only photo I took - I had only a couple of minutes. Pixel peeping, it doesn't look tack sharp at 800mm, but obviously, some of that's could be me.

I also own the 100-500. I don't think that it's an either/or. I do not like the 100-500 with a 1.4x extender (because of the protrusion at/reduction of minimum zoom). The autofocus on the 200-800 is very fast (and very usable); impressive, in my opinion, given the aperture.

In the grand scheme of things, I think I'm pretty happy owning/keeping both, though the overlap means I'd rarely, if ever, pack both with me.



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Totally agree about adding TCs to the 100-500, a huge pain to have it mostly extended. For the most part I use the 100-500 with the R7 and get great results, an equivalent 800mm at the long end, and can be open to 7.1.

 

[tbgtomcom]

Here's some proper testing, not YouTube clickbait.

Summary of my RF 200-800mm testing

I have now taken a couple of thousand images with charts and birds in the wild to test the RF 200-800mm on the R5 and some on the R7. This was both from sheer interest and for me to decide whether to keep the lens and if so which lens to use in various circumstances. Much has been posted in two...

www.canonrumors.com

I would hardly call Christopher Frost videos "click bait".

 

[Loswr]

As a "Pro" you should not be disrespectful to fellow photographers and belittle them, like you are doing. That's definitely NOT the way any pro photographer behaves. True pro photographers are respectful to and encourages fellow photographers who are not as skilled or talented as they themselves are because the pros know very well the history and teaching and learning processes of the art of photography, where everyone is a beginner at some point. So act as pro photographer if that's what you are and if you would like to be respected as one and don't act like someone you don't wan't be seen as. A human tip.

Sorry, I guess I missed the part where you commenting on the, "millions of photographers (myself included) who couldn't care less for video specs," was an altruistic effort to respect and encourage your fellow photographers. Silly me, it sounds like you making an asinine claim with no evidence to support it, including the suggestion that the company that currently dominates the camera market is getting 'left behind' because they're not making the camera of your personal dreams.

Looking over your posting history, I see lots of respectful and encouraging posts. Like these:

Very uninspiring images in the review, clearly not the way to use this lens creatively.

Z as in zoom obviously, so the smartphone generation will understand.

So respectful. So encouraging to those seeking to understand the art of photography. You must be very impressed with yourself.

As for me, I strive to provide accurate and relevant help and advice to those seeking it. But I have little tolerance for fools who believe their opinions represent those of 'millions of photographers', and you have put yourself squarely in that camp. If you want respect, earn it. If you make ridiculous claims, I will respond with the ridicule they deserve.

 

[scyrene]

As a "Pro" you should not be disrespectful to fellow photographers and belittle them, like you are doing. That's definitely NOT the way any pro photographer behaves. True pro photographers are respectful to and encourages fellow photographers who are not as skilled or talented as they themselves are because the pros know very well the history and teaching and learning processes of the art of photography, where everyone is a beginner at some point. So act as pro photographer if that's what you are and if you would like to be respected as one and don't act like someone you don't wan't be seen as. A human tip.

That's not what "pro tip" means

 

[Loswr]

Totally agree about adding TCs to the 100-500, a huge pain to have it mostly extended.

For walking around, I find it tolerable. Even with the longer length, the combo balances hanging from my BlackRapid strap. But it’s a PITA that the combo doesn’t retract fully for storage. Fortunately, I rarely use the combo.

For the most part I use the 100-500 with the R7 and get great results, an equivalent 800mm at the long end, and can be open to 7.1.

Yes, it opens to f/7.1 but equivalence means more noise at the same EV. The stop lost with a 1.4x TC essentially balances out with the 1.3-stops more image noise from the crop sensor.

 

[Loswr]

That's not what "pro tip" means

 

[3kramd5]

That's not what "pro tip" means

In the adult "film" industry they sometimes play Just the Pro Tip.