Canon EOS R5 Specifications

[SecureGSM]

Because it's very useful to implement *** in a camera just to turn it off in menu? Got it!
Try to outsmart your latest message if you care about answering.

Let me outsmart my own message for you:
I use *** for travel photography when I take thousands of photos over two weeks period in various locations. A *** tag allows me to appropriately sort messages and provide relevant description, classify sets of photos and be able to track what when and where was photographed.
I do not use *** for events where I typically take thousands of photos in a single location.

I hope it makes at least some sense to you now.

 

[Grimbald]

Ever since... I think when the 5D3 came out, everything was so incremental in specs and updates.. I just can't see this "R5" being anything revolutionary. If canon blows my speculations out of the water and everyone else's - GREAT! But I just can't help it.. this is just insane if Canon does in fact, come out with such an insane update to the current lineup. Make Canon great again?

Keep in mind: Canon wants people to switch to their new R mount: New glass to sell, new bodies, new accessories and so on. It does not seem unrealistic for them to give people a very good reason to switch, as they are doing it with their glass already. In the end, it's just a strategic move to generate more profit and bind consumers to their product line.

 

[justaCanonuser]

Anyway, an internal SSD (or something like that) - instead of a second card slot - wouldn't be a bad thing.

I agree, but an SSD would

Risking some 30-ish photos at a time. Not thousands Shots at a time Right?

Yes, 10 keepers out of 36 images vs. 10 keepers out of 10.000

 

[Jethro]

Canon has been stalling the last few years to get a bunch of stuff in order, both in R&D and fab. I think that stall period has now ended and we will be seeing repeated shock and awe attacks. The first clue was the VERY positive review DPR gave the 1DXIII (although the DPR fan base is still choking on that review).

I think this is right. They've taken longer than others to get to this stage, but that seems to have coincided with a lot of R&D in the background. I take it they now have IBIS (including integration with in-lens IS) to their satisfaction. And out comes a whole flurry of bodies. Very exciting!

The DPR article had about 600 comments when I looked earlier (I haven't gone into it …)!

 

[SecureGSM]

Yes but how many of those 10.000 images are worth keeping? I am talking here about photography, not excessive snapshooting. Also, who really collects up to 10.000 images on one card w/o saving data in the meantime? If if I shoot wildlife, I get up to 2000 images per day, that's already a lot.

Can I provide a hopefully relevant use case here:
I spent 2 weeks traveling in Bali, remote areas taking portraits of Balinese people in their native environment. Not a small project. 800+ portraits taken in 10 days. Now. I ended up with around 2000 frames on my card. The time, effort and Amount of money That I invested in this project is quite substantial.
A card failure in this instance would be a catastrophic event for me. Hence I shoot to both card simultaneously. It does not cost me a thing but provides so much needed redundancy.
I hope it explains.

 

[SecureGSM]

I agree, but an SSD would

Yes, 10 keepers out of 36 images vs. 10 keepers out of 10.000

Yeah. The ratio of keepers would be correct. 800 keepers out of 2000 frame in my case.

 

[Deleted member 68328]

Let me outsmart my own message for you:
I use *** for travel photography when I take thousands of photos over two weeks period in various locations. A *** tag allows me to appropriately sort messages and provide relevant description, classify sets of photos and be able to track what when and where was photographed.
I do not use *** for events where I typically take thousands of photos in a single location.

I hope it makes at least some sense to you now.

I use *** the exact same way. So I quite understand the use case, but your latest answer does not explain the previous one. Whatever... Not interested.

 

[Ozarker]

Yeah. The ratio of keepers would be correct. 800 keepers out of 2000 frame in my case.

Great photos! Must have been a fantastic trip to take.

 

[Cat_Interceptor]

Can I provide a hopefully relevant use case here:
I spent 2 weeks traveling in Bali, remote areas taking portraits of Balinese people in their native environment. Not a small project. 800+ portraits taken in 10 days. Now. I ended up with around 2000 frames on my card. The time, effort and Amount of money That I invested in this project is quite substantial.
A card failure in this instance would be a catastrophic event for me. Hence I shoot to both card simultaneously. It does not cost me a thing but provides so much needed redundancy.
I hope it explains.

In all honesty, people that try to say "you don't need two card slots...!" aren't going to listen. They never have, even when people clearly, patiently and like you, politely explain good reasoning why it's an important feature.

Just because *someone* doesnt want a feature does not for one second mean that when someone does, their reasoning is not valid when there is strong evidence and reasoning to back it. Like for instance I dotn want ***, but because you have explained clearly why it's a good feature, I would not try to argue against it.

 

[SecureGSM]

Great photos! Must have been a fantastic trip to take.

Thank you. Yes, an absolutely fantastic trip. I will share more photos with forum when relevant.

I have got quite few in my FB, raising awareness of unfortunate Life realities of native Balinese People working hard 7 days a week with. I holiday all their life for some USD $4 a day.

 

[dslrdummy]

If it's being announced in a couple of weeks, hopefully it will ship by May (photographic trip to Bandhavgarh, India planned). Here's hoping.

 

[dsut4392]

The camera is targeting an exact reproduction. In fact, we all argue about the accuracy of this reproduction at length - noise, DR and color from sensors, geometric distortion, spherical aberration, chromatic aberration and field flatness (etc.) from lenses.
...

The scene is not imagined. It exists. The way it's reproduced (NOT created) by the camera and photographer doesn't change that.

Is that so? So if I deliberately choose a large aperture to decrease depth of field, or shoot a waterfall at ISO100 with an ND10 filter fitted, or take a head & shoulders portrait of someone at 200mm with the moon in the corner of the frame then the camera has targeted an 'exact reproduction' of a scene that is not imagined but really exists? I'm not saying any of those cliches are 'art', but if backgrounds actually AREN'T soft and fluffy, rivers AREN'T made of cotton wool, and the moon ISN'T capable of growing and shrinking, then what is it that the camera is targeting an exact reproduction of?

 

[PureClassA]

My god is this still going!

THANK. YOU. (You beat me to this)

 

[davidhfe]

I agree, but an SSD would

Yes, 10 keepers out of 36 images vs. 10 keepers out of 10.000

I commend your hit rate. As somebody who has not achieved that level of photographic skill, I appreciate that canon makes a camera that fits both our needs. You can swap 128MB cards in and out of your camera, I can stick with dual 128GB cards and we can both be happy.

 

[PureClassA]

I also think it will come much sooner than July, given how short the delivery is on the 1DXIII compared to historical 1D delivery times. Canon has been stalling the last few years to get a bunch of stuff in order, both in R&D and fab. I think that stall period has now ended and we will be seeing repeated shock and awe attacks. The first clue was the VERY positive review DPR gave the 1DXIII (although the DPR fan base is still choking on that review).

Slow. Clap. This guy gets it.

Canon wants to launch the R line with a BANG and it's been in the works for years. The EOS R and RP (seeming now intro cameras) kicked the door open with specs & techs akin to the traditional, EF Mounted, D series we all know but afforded them the opportunity to start building a robust, high end glass library in a new mount and get sales going while they finalized the real R firebrands that look to be coming out now. New specs. New Techs. Like IBIS (and may be the best IBIS available once out particularly when mated with the lens IS) and crazy frame rates, and so on. That said, I'm VERY pleased my EOS R and won't be dumping it as it is a fine successor to my aging 5D3 and does exactly what I want it to for the volume photography I use it for. I will look to a new R to upgrade my video capability and my DX2 will still be shooting my fast action work. Camera for every job, as it were. And here comes the R Series to do exactly that moving forward.

 

[davidhfe]

Yes but how many of those 10.000 images are worth keeping? I am talking here about photography, not excessive snapshooting. Also, who really collects up to 10.000 images on one card w/o saving data in the meantime? If if I shoot wildlife, I get up to 2000 images per day, that's already a lot.

2,000 and 10,000 would both be tragic numbers of photos to lose. Either case is quite a bit more severe than a lost roll of film. Again, this is a case of progress being good. If I shot professionally I would be terrified something might happen to my bag of undeveloped film between the shoot and the studio or lab.

As for volume, I can hit a few thousand shots shooting all day beer league sports events for friends. Games are back to back and carrying my laptop around is the last thing I’d want to do

 

[davidhfe]

Slow. Clap. This guy gets it.

Canon wants to launch the R line with a BANG and it's been in the works for years. The EOS R and RP (seeming now intro cameras) kicked the door open with specs & techs akin to the traditional, EF Mounted, D series we all know but afforded them the opportunity to start building a robust, high end glass library in a new mount and get sales going while they finalized the real R firebrands that look to be coming out now. New specs. New Techs. Like IBIS (and may be the best IBIS available once out particularly when mated with the lens IS) and crazy frame rates, and so on. That said, I'm VERY pleased my EOS R and won't be dumping it as it is a fine successor to my aging 5D3 and does exactly what I want it to for the volume photography I use it for. I will look to a new R to upgrade my video capability and my DX2 will still be shooting my fast action work. Camera for every job, as it were. And here comes the R Series to do exactly that moving forward.

I’m sure we’ve all wanted to believe that “Canon has been stalling while they work on their monster sensor tech” for the last four years. I guess I never for a moment thought it was actually true.

Really, really hope I’m wrong.

 

[per.farny]

As a landscape photographer who prints large, all these last couple of days have done is get me more and more nervous that a high megapixel model (equal to or North of 7RIV) may not come after all this year :/

 

[PureClassA]

2,000 and 10,000 would both be tragic numbers of photos to lose. Either case is quite a bit more severe than a lost roll of film. Again, this is a case of progress being good. If I shot professionally I would be terrified something might happen to my bag of undeveloped film between the shoot and the studio or lab.

As for volume, I can hit a few thousand shots shooting all day beer league sports events for friends. Games are back to back and carrying my laptop around is the last thing I’d want to do

One weekend a year I will crack on average about 15,000 shots on my DX2. Massive dance recitals. A Hundred Dance numbers easily. None or few of which Ive seen before. Hundreds of different dancers. I realize that's sort of a unique situation but on average I toss close to half those shots, but I'm shooting full blast 14fps just to try and get a girl hitting the apex of a leap or something of that sort when I don't it's coming. That fills a 256GB CF Card twice almost. But I'm immediately off loading at the end of each of the four recitals onto a 1TB SSD and then formatting the card to start over again.

 

[mppix]

Hopefully these cameras will sport the new quad pixel autofocus that is supposed to be the successor to the current dual pixel AF.

There is a lot that one could do with that - better AF, higher DR (see 5Div's DPRAW), or possibly even an upscaled resolution