Canon not going global shutter with next round of EOS R camera bodies

With a base ISO of 250, that seems to indicate to me that DR is impacted and apparently noise as well, so it even sounds like it's a more traditional stacked global shutter design. It could be that Canon doesn't want that kind of compromise in its flagship model.
I agree. Looks like Sony didn't succeed in getting such a sensor's relatively complex, crowded architecture out of the way of the presumably smaller photodiodes. So those diodes can't collect as much light as the ones of a conventional sensor. Pretty sure that Canon will still stick with the more conservative sensor tech to offer better IQ, what is a smart decision from a photographer's perspective.
 
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*That's to those who think global shutter is all that because it's on the spec sheet regardless of performance.
At least, Sony's marketing works with many spec oriented guys. It is a bit like selling deodorants. I once learned from marketing people that if you want to introduce a new deodorant for male customers successfully, you need to connect it with a lot fancy pseudo high-tech blurb stuff.
 
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For some, just the IR thumb sensor on the joystick was enough to make them decide to jump to the Mark III,
Thumbs-down the fastest and most accurate AF point selection method I've used. On DLSRs it didn't matter as much, since there were only a few 10's of AF points so a regular joystick worked well. But with MILCs, the whole field is available. Eye-controlled AF works for me, but the Smart Controller is just as fast and more accurate.
 
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At least, Sony's marketing works with many spec oriented guys. It is a bit like selling deodorants. I once learned from marketing people that if you want to introduce a new deodorant for male customers successfully, you need to connect it with a lot fancy pseudo high-tech blurb stuff.
Same with after-shave bottles designed to look like grenades or revolver barrels, maybe to distract from the cheap scenting content?
 
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Now that Sony has made such a wonderful camera (A9III) and thus surpassed all other manufacturers and their cameras, what will we do with all the Sony cameras that do not have a global shutter - will we throw them in the trash too?
What is weird is that most of the people Sony invited to their event do not need a global shutter and those people are now trying to explain what a global shutter is and why we all need one.
I never really care about tech.
I just want to see how good it is at solving the problems that it is supposed to solve.
 
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Thumbs-down the fastest and most accurate AF point selection method I've used. On DLSRs it didn't matter as much, since there were only a few 10's of AF points so a regular joystick worked well. But with MILCs, the whole field is available. Eye-controlled AF works for me, but the Smart Controller is just as fast and more accurate.
An excellent example of a small "detail" which, for many, certainly matters more than some unripe innovations...
 
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An excellent example of a small "detail" which, for many, certainly matters more than some unripe innovations...
The 1Dx3 completely underwhelmed me shooting it side-by-side with my RP, but that IR controller impressed me. I hope it shows up in lower tier models as well. The touchscreen corner thing is nice, till you start wearing gloves :)
 
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I'm not sure closing the gap is good if IQ suffers. ...
Same here!
It is always funny that in the opinion of some people Canon "has to close the gap" because one single feature, or spec data is not #1 over all competitors.
Those people forget, that other values are better or equal and that it is always the whole package and not just one function.
And why should the overall and overwhelmingly big market leader change something, if the business model works?
(personally, I'd prefer a better divided market, but I am happy that my imaging brand is not threatened to close or get sold)
 
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Now that is highly debatable IMO. R maybe if you really like Canon, but RP better than Z6 (II) or Z7? No IBIS, worse viewfinder, worse battery life, almost no AF in (cropped) 4K, body which requires a bottom plate to be nice to hold, not to mention the sensor (DR, video specs etc.)

C'mon man, this is not the SAR comment section, blind brand loyalty is not why we are here.
I really like Canon as a brand, and one of my favorite Canon cameras is the R. For example, the R6 was an extremely bad experience for me and I sold it after having it for a little over a year. One of my two R's is still with me after almost 5 years and will be for a long time it seems. It's an excellent camera if you know what you need it for and if you're not blinded by those who baselessly speak against this camera, without ever having seen it live, let alone tried it or used it for a long time.
 
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I really like Canon as a brand, and one of my favorite Canon cameras is the R. For example, the R6 was an extremely bad experience for me and I sold it after having it for a little over a year. One of my two R's is still with me after almost 5 years and will be for a long time it seems. It's an excellent camera if you know what you need it for and if you're not blinded by those who baselessly speak against this camera, without ever having seen it live, let alone tried it or used it for a long time.
I like mine too, as reliable as the 5 D III and IV! Never a single issue or freezing!
If only the EVF was better (in hi-contrast situations) and its E-level less obtrusive...
It sure didn't deserve so much bashing, apart from the fact it's a Canon and not a S..y.
 
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Now that is highly debatable IMO. R maybe if you really like Canon, but RP better than Z6 (II) or Z7? No IBIS, worse viewfinder, worse battery life, almost no AF in (cropped) 4K, body which requires a bottom plate to be nice to hold, not to mention the sensor (DR, video specs etc.)

C'mon man, this is not the SAR comment section, blind brand loyalty is not why we are here.
The R from an "output" perspective was functionally identical to the 5D MKIV, which was great. It was missing some of the features of that body such as dual card slots that were later incorporated into the R5, but those don't impact outputs. And the R5 was released less than 2 years after the R.
 
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I like mine too, as reliable as the 5 D III and IV! Never a single issue or freezing!
If only the EVF was better (in hi-contrast situations) and its E-level less obtrusive...
It sure didn't deserve so much bashing, apart from the fact it's a Canon and not a S..y.
Among my gripes with the R are that the EVF doesn't have automatic brightness adjustment (although I noticed this was more of a problem for me who wears glasses), that I couldn't find any use for the touch-bar (despite quite a bit of effort, will and the desire to use it somehow), the fact that in Servo AF it sometimes likes to "wander" on the background if the background is relatively close to the main subject and if it is rich in contrast, the diopter adjustment wheel moves too easily and does not have any indication of the zero position, complicated connectivity, poor implementation of the review of captured photos... And that's it, more or less. Great camera, just as I'm sure the R5II and R1 will be regardless of the fact that neither of them will likely have a global shutter.
 
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The R from an "output" perspective was functionally identical to the 5D MKIV, which was great. It was missing some of the features of that body such as dual card slots that were later incorporated into the R5, but those don't impact outputs. And the R5 was released less than 2 years after the R.
The R had the sensor of the 5DIV, the Z7 that of the D850. For birds in flight, both the R and the Z7 are not as good as their DSLR counterparts and birders recommend the DSLRs because of their better AF. I used the the 5DIV as my main body for several years and the D850 for a year or so. The D850 is what the 5DV should have been. The D850/Z7 sensor is much better than the 5DIV/R, and it took the R5 for Canon to match it.
 
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