Here are some crazy Canon EOS R1 specifications [CR0]

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Wow those are perhaps the most amazing specs I’ve yet to see on any camera. If this thing could do 85MP with global shutter and 15 stops of usable dynamic range... I’d buy it at preorder. But I’m thinking it’s sounding too good to be true.
 

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This would actually explain why Sony came out with their A1 so quickly. If they know something like this is coming out, they’d want to be first on the market (like they did with the A7R4, right before the Canon R5 came out). This also shows the benefits of creating your own sensors! Nikon should start doing that again soon!
 

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Could be a case of the reality is hidden somewhere inside a bunch of specs that are true but need context to provide the full picture. As has been said. A quad pixel sensor of 21/84mp(depending on how those pixels are read) certainly sounds plausible for those of us with limited knowledge of how these things work. If Canon are the first to bring a global shutter to the market however then........whooaahhh!!!!! That will surprise the world.
I am annoyed by the negative comments in some forums that Canon is worse than Sony because it doesn't have a stacked sensor. I am fine to ignore the technology and look at the result eg overall read speed/rolling shutter. I don't care how you do it at the end of the day but a global shutter would be cool tech.
 

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The most important question: will it have a flippy screen?
This is an interesting question especially in the 1D form factor. I would have to say that it should have a flippy screen for video and difficult angle shooting (astro), closed in to protect it and facing out would be the same as the current 1D.
What would be really interesting is it they increased the size of the panel substantially. This would play into the new menu rumour allowing cascading menus but still large enough font to read from a distance.
 

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Red Komodo has 6K global shutter already with good dynamic range so definitely seems doable - if they can do it Canon should be able also.
The Red Komodo manages around 12 stops. Not bad for a global shutter, but nowhere near their silly 16 plus stops marketing hype claims.

If Canon can manage better than 14 usable stops, this camera would be the new benchmark.
 
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This is an interesting question especially in the 1D form factor. I would have to say that it should have a flippy screen for video and difficult angle shooting (astro), closed in to protect it and facing out would be the same as the current 1D.
What would be really interesting is it they increased the size of the panel substantially. This would play into the new menu rumour allowing cascading menus but still large enough font to read from a distance.
The only way to do a flip screen on a 1-series body would be to have a tilt flip like Panasonic have on the S1H.
 

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Hey people I work as a DIT and I just got off a Chanel jewelry shoot and the director/photographer from Paris was shooting here in LA on an iphone 12 meaning he was working on 3 shoots at the same time and the assistants had an iphone setup with a laptop with his face on it. In Tokyo, Paris, and LA this camera will not be needed in a couple of years at least for advertising, they won't need me either as the shots were shot raw and sent to NY or Paris.
Sometimes "need" ain't got nothing to do with it. Professionals are a small part of the market. Nobody needs a Bugatti either.
 
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I agree. Also, if they really do have quad pixel AF, they don't need to go high resolution, as they can (and should) interpolate using the sub-pixels, so the camera can either be a ~24MP Bayer array (by combining the quad AF sensels similar to how they currently combine the dual pixel sensels), OR they can leave them uncombined and effectively have a CFA array that looks like:

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The ~6000x4000 pixel bayer array would then effectively be ~12000x8000 pixels, R, G, and B quad sitting under one color filter color and micro-lens. It would effectively have ~96MP, or ~24MP depending on if you combined the quad pixels in camera or not. That would be pretty awesome.
I could see their marketing department declaring their 21MP QP sensor is really a 84 MP sensor as long as they have software to interpolate the quad-Bayer array (as shown in this post) into what they can claim to be 16 full color pixels.

The substantially improved back LCD and EVF would be compelling, as is the rest of it. If they also really have a 84MP conventional Bayer array where each pixel element is a quad pixel with QP AF, then it'd justify the high price for the body for sure and be well received by those professionals and well-to-do prosumers that can afford it. It would also keep the R5 & R6 selling like hot cakes to all the rest who can't quite afford the higher price. It would be a good vertical marketing strategy for maximizing income in these difficult times.
 

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Red Komodo has 6K global shutter already with good dynamic range so definitely seems doable - if they can do it Canon should be able also.
True. I probably should have said a global shutter in a semi affordable body. The Komodo is ridiculously expensive isnt it?
 
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Sometimes "need" ain't got nothing to do with it. Professionals are a small part of the market. Nobody needs a Bugatti either.
I understand that, but just like a lot of things once people get used to it why would anyone buy an expensive camera if you could get it on the phone you carry... just like point and shoot that was consumer only and now it's gone... this was a video shoot too and in a few years the Alexa we had might be replaced as well... first time I've seen a shoot like this but it won't be the last.
 
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Last thing, I came from Hasselblads and I don't see people buying them either... Now it's DSLR/mirror and it might be less than that very soon.
 

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No not really, $6,000. But when a fancy color option is $1,000 it kind of shows who the real market is.
Ok. There you go. I thought they were far more than that. I stand corrected. In that case what is holding the rest back then?
 

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Why not?
If the 85 MPix are the quad pixels counted as 4 with the goal to have a 21 MPix sensor with vertical and horizontal AF sensitivity the specs make sense. Maybe Canon lifted lots of processing onto the sensor global shutter might be possible. Maybe resulting in much less noise - higher DR - or with some dual ISO concept using the "Quads" efficiently.
Only the Iso seems to have one zero to much - at above 50% quantum efficiency of todays sensors there is no longer lots of headroom for improvements.
And the 1280 nit value for brightness seems a little bit too exact - for specs which could't be controlled better then ~10%, 1200 or 1300 would be precise enough. Maybe some resolution specs were mingled with brightness specs.
 
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