New Canon L Primes, but Not Until 2015 [CR2)

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<p>We’re told to expect new Canon L primes, but none will be announced in 2014.</p>
<p>The first one we can expect is a new 35L in early 2015, this has been rumored since the 24L was announced. There have been lots of patents for the optical formula, but nothing has come of it.</p>
<p>The second is a new 50L in late 2015. The new lens is said to be a lot smaller and lighter, perhaps a drop to f/1.4?</p>
<p>There may have been development delays in L lens development as Canon has been working hard building a cinema lens lineup.</p>
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2014 is the Yeah of the Lens!*


*disclaimer: may actually be next year

CANONisOK said:
I'm assuming this has zero bearing on the (rumored) upcoming 100-400mm ii... I'd feel more confident if there reports of the current 100-400mm being discontinued like the 7D.
If anything, it basically confirms the 100-400. It won't be a new 200/300/400mm prime. It wont be an update to the 55-250, 18-135, etc (all just recently done with STM). So, what does that really leave?

I guess they could update the 15-85 or 17-55, but I'd doubt that. And they just re-did all their wide and mid-range zooms, so it cant be those. Basically only leaves the 28-135 and the 100-400. And since there really isnt any room for a 28-135 update...
 
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Still having my hopes up for a new 50mm nonL prime for this year :) All that I basicly need is 50/1.4 with reliable and predictable ring-USM AF motor. Better sharpness and contrast on par with new 35/2 IS could not hurt either :)
 
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Canon Rumors said:
The second is a new 50L in late 2015. The new lens is said to be a lot smaller and lighter, perhaps a drop to f/1.4?

Exactly what I was suggesting just a few days ago on the Photokina thread, the new consumer 50mm IS at f1.8 or even f2.0 makes way for a much better 50mm f1.4 in the same mold as the 24mm f1.4 II L - same with the 85mm, which could also go to f1.4
 
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I'd still like to see them best Nikon's 12-24.

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preppyak said:
2014 is the Yeah of the Lens!*


*disclaimer: may actually be next year

CANONisOK said:
I'm assuming this has zero bearing on the (rumored) upcoming 100-400mm ii... I'd feel more confident if there reports of the current 100-400mm being discontinued like the 7D.
If anything, it basically confirms the 100-400. It won't be a new 200/300/400mm prime. It wont be an update to the 55-250, 18-135, etc (all just recently done with STM). So, what does that really leave?

I guess they could update the 15-85 or 17-55, but I'd doubt that. And they just re-did all their wide and mid-range zooms, so it cant be those. Basically only leaves the 28-135 and the 100-400. And since there really isnt any room for a 28-135 update...
 
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Canon has been working a lot on cinema lenses. Their broadcast group does not seem to be directly involved, so the DSLR design and production has been bogged down. Nikon also has a lack of resources for designing new lenses. Apparently, Sigma has added resources(Tooling, manufacturing, and designers) to put out a lot of new lenses. This is probably hurting Nikon more than Canon, but both must be feeling pressure.
 
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preppyak said:
2014 is the Yeah of the Lens!*


*disclaimer: may actually be next year

CANONisOK said:
I'm assuming this has zero bearing on the (rumored) upcoming 100-400mm ii... I'd feel more confident if there reports of the current 100-400mm being discontinued like the 7D.
If anything, it basically confirms the 100-400. It won't be a new 200/300/400mm prime. It wont be an update to the 55-250, 18-135, etc (all just recently done with STM). So, what does that really leave?

I guess they could update the 15-85 or 17-55, but I'd doubt that. And they just re-did all their wide and mid-range zooms, so it cant be those. Basically only leaves the 28-135 and the 100-400. And since there really isnt any room for a 28-135 update...

I'd love it if they updated the 28–135 to be a 24–135, to be the full-frame equivalent for the 15–85. The crop bodies got that treatment back in 2009, but the full-frame cameras don't have anything similar. And while they're at it, they should tighten up the tolerances to fix the extreme lens creep problems (not a creep so much as a flop). Basically turn it into a solid full-frame kit lens.

Then again, I'd love a full-frame equivalent to the 18–135 lens—basically an IS update to the 28–200.
 
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Haydn1971 said:
Canon Rumors said:
The second is a new 50L in late 2015. The new lens is said to be a lot smaller and lighter, perhaps a drop to f/1.4?

Exactly what I was suggesting just a few days ago on the Photokina thread, the new consumer 50mm IS at f1.8 or even f2.0 makes way for a much better 50mm f1.4 in the same mold as the 24mm f1.4 II L - same with the 85mm, which could also go to f1.4

They would lose their bragging rights for f/1.2 primes. I do not see this scenario as probable. At least not for the 85/1.2, which is amazing lens even wide open, so why "lessen" the lens to a "mere" f/1.4.
 
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Khalai said:
Haydn1971 said:
Canon Rumors said:
The second is a new 50L in late 2015. The new lens is said to be a lot smaller and lighter, perhaps a drop to f/1.4?

Exactly what I was suggesting just a few days ago on the Photokina thread, the new consumer 50mm IS at f1.8 or even f2.0 makes way for a much better 50mm f1.4 in the same mold as the 24mm f1.4 II L - same with the 85mm, which could also go to f1.4

They would lose their bragging rights for f/1.2 primes. I do not see this scenario as probable. At least not for the 85/1.2, which is amazing lens even wide open, so why "lessen" the lens to a "mere" f/1.4.

f/1.4 is plenty, and it keeps the weight and price down a bit. I'm hoping for a 50mm with IS, equivalent quality to the 35 f/2 IS !
 
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Etienne said:
Khalai said:
Haydn1971 said:
Canon Rumors said:
The second is a new 50L in late 2015. The new lens is said to be a lot smaller and lighter, perhaps a drop to f/1.4?

Exactly what I was suggesting just a few days ago on the Photokina thread, the new consumer 50mm IS at f1.8 or even f2.0 makes way for a much better 50mm f1.4 in the same mold as the 24mm f1.4 II L - same with the 85mm, which could also go to f1.4

They would lose their bragging rights for f/1.2 primes. I do not see this scenario as probable. At least not for the 85/1.2, which is amazing lens even wide open, so why "lessen" the lens to a "mere" f/1.4.

f/1.4 is plenty, and it keeps the weight and price down a bit. I'm hoping for a 50mm with IS, equivalent quality to the 35 f/2 IS !

I know, for me f/1.4 is more than enough, I rarely shoot below 1.8-2 anyways. I meant it as a marketing point. It implies something exclusive, something special, when you have 1.2 lens while other competitors start at 1.4 (and that the difference between 1.2 and 1.4 is barely noticeable etc. does not count in marketing gimmicks :) )...

Personally, I'd settle for 50/1.8 IS USM anyday, if its IQ is comparable to 35/2 IS USM at equal aperture openings.
 
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Every time a CR1, CR2, etc. drops regarding new lenses, I want to make a rival to CR's webpage that is The Onion-flavored.

Stories would include:

Canon, a business that profits from releasing new products, is reportedly working on more new products [CR1]

35L II is a certainty: Canon uses the terms '35', 'L', and 'II' in the same interview [CR2]

Mysterious 14-24L informant turns out to be a sadistic Nikon employee with no credible Canon intel whatsoever [CR3]

Sigma writes a love letter to photographers, asking, 'When will you love us back to the point where we can overcharge you as much as Canon does?' [CR0]

B+W admits UV Filters were invented solely because that dipsh#& Klaus forgot to polarize a batch of CPLs in 1949 [CR1]

Citing years of neglect, EOS-M formally sues Canon for parental negligence: "All we wanted were a few lenses, but they just gave us this s@#$ty EF adapter..." [CR2]

Exclusive Scoop: 5D Mark IV to cost more than 5D Mark III [CR9]

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Why not produce a 50L which is the 50 many photographers wanted as a robust, high quality L lens which is a razor sharp f1.4, and keep the current 50L as a specialist 'art' or portrait lens.

It's annoying that those of us who like the 'standard' 50/1.4 have to put up with such a flimsy, cheap plastic lens, with appalling manual focus, no full USM, WS etc.

Where would this leave the rumoured 50/2 or 50/1.8 IS ? Well maybe that lens is going to replace the current 50/1.8 as the cheapest prime that is very popular as a first lens to compliment the kit zoom.
 
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Sporgon said:
Why not produce a 50L which is the 50 many photographers wanted as a robust, high quality L lens which is a razor sharp f1.4, and keep the current 50L as a specialist 'art' or portrait lens.

It's annoying that those of us who like the 'standard' 50/1.4 have to put up with such a flimsy, cheap plastic lens, with appalling manual focus, no full USM, WS etc.

Where would this leave the rumoured 50/2 or 50/1.8 IS ? Well maybe that lens is going to replace the current 50/1.8 as the cheapest prime that is very popular as a first lens to compliment the kit zoom.

The topic of whether the new non-L 50 IS will be the base-level or the mid-level has been heavily speculated already in these forums.

Personally, I think it will be mid-grade and replace the 50 F/1.4 (old-)USM. I just can't see the nifty fifty being retired -- it holds a unique price point and serves a common need as a photographer's first prime.

But there are those that would correctly argue that all of the non-L IS USM refreshes to date (24/28/35) have replaced the cheapest non-USM lenses so far.

Whatever line it replaces, that new lens will sell like hotcakes. It will be sharper than the 50L (heck the 20 year old 50 F/1.4 is already sharper today at some apertures), lighter, have IS, have true internal focusing (without the front element sliding inside the housing), and have proper modern USM. The only thing it won't have is weather-sealing and the widest possible aperture. But even at F/2, I'm probably buying that lens.

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zlatko said:
Etienne said:
I'm hoping for a 50mm with IS, equivalent quality to the 35 f/2 IS !
Me too. That would be beautiful!
For me, the 50mm FL would be too close to my beautiful 35mm f2 IS. I'd have a LOT more interest in an EF 85mm f2 IS (non L and priority on optical formula for fast focus). It should be "future proof" to have "buckets of resolution, acutance, MFT10, MTF50, MFT90, micro-contrast, color tonality" to nicely "feed" a 40 mpx full frame sensor with 14 EV of DR ... maybe 16 EV with an improvement over MagicLantern's Dual-ISO, but that's a different issue related to the sensor and body.
 
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