New PowerShot & EOS Cameras to Offer DOF Control?
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There was a guy advertising for photography services a few years back on Craig's list. His sample images looked like a mobile phone with some really bad bokeh filters applied.
I'm not saying everyone needs full frame and an f1.2 prime, but the assertion that comparable professional results can come from such techniques are so asinine.
Albi86 said:
There was a guy advertising for photography services a few years back on Craig's list. His sample images looked like a mobile phone with some really bad bokeh filters applied.
I'm not saying everyone needs full frame and an f1.2 prime, but the assertion that comparable professional results can come from such techniques are so asinine.
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Sounds to me like a mode in which the camera determines the subject near and far distance and sets aperture to ensure all subjects are in focus.
take for example a shot of a group of people. face detection could be used to determine the distance to the subject closest to the camera and the suject farthest from the camera, then select the aperture that mathmatically satisfies the DOF with that lens.
Sounds like a cool feature for consumer level cameras or even for shooting video if it was dynamic enough to adapt to the changing environment in real time.
Sounds to me like a mode in which the camera determines the subject near and far distance and sets aperture to ensure all subjects are in focus.
take for example a shot of a group of people. face detection could be used to determine the distance to the subject closest to the camera and the suject farthest from the camera, then select the aperture that mathmatically satisfies the DOF with that lens.
Sounds like a cool feature for consumer level cameras or even for shooting video if it was dynamic enough to adapt to the changing environment in real time.
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Yes, my 50e (ElanIIe) had this already (camera Date introduced = September 1995):
Maybe Canon will now also bring back the eye controlled autofocus feature!!! 8)
Steve Todd said:
Yes, my 50e (ElanIIe) had this already (camera Date introduced = September 1995):
(ref: http://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgraphics.stanford.edu%2F~niloy%2FmiscDocs%2FelanIIe.pdf&ei=2sBnU7iiDcn-PPi8gOAL&usg=AFQjCNFcpLQfmpOPCiZ99ceN_esrVc9bDw)
Maybe Canon will now also bring back the eye controlled autofocus feature!!! 8)
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Of course they have reasons.... why else would they do it.
As to if the reasons pass the test of time or if those reasons are accepted by the marketplace, that is a completely different problem.....
jdramirez said:sanj said:
I feel that Canon has enough misses to make a credible challenge to your idiot claim.
Of course they have reasons.... why else would they do it.
As to if the reasons pass the test of time or if those reasons are accepted by the marketplace, that is a completely different problem.....
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could be anything ... from a really lousy "art filter" to add artificial blur ... to "A-DEP revisited" ... all the way to what Lighmaster wrote (depth map based on dual-pixel info from sensor) ...
It definitely will NOT be true peloptic/lightfield imaging (along the lines of Lytro) sice that would represent "change and innovation" in the magnitude of a million times Canon's boldest possible imagination.
Whatever it may be ... I just hope the disease will be tightly confined to Powershots and Rebels.
could be anything ... from a really lousy "art filter" to add artificial blur ... to "A-DEP revisited" ... all the way to what Lighmaster wrote (depth map based on dual-pixel info from sensor) ...
It definitely will NOT be true peloptic/lightfield imaging (along the lines of Lytro) sice that would represent "change and innovation" in the magnitude of a million times Canon's boldest possible imagination.
Whatever it may be ... I just hope the disease will be tightly confined to Powershots and Rebels.
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If some feature like this appears on entry level cameras, it has the potential to educate people on DOF.
We all win when we can easily talk with everyone about DOF.
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If some feature like this appears on entry level cameras, it has the potential to educate people on DOF.
We all win when we can easily talk with everyone about DOF.
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I see two options:
1. A pattern of dual pixels across the sensor (in addition to the ones for focusing?) which can take a deep depth of field and simulate a shallow one. While Canon has the technology for this (and this is definitely the cooler of the options), it feels too techie for them to use in entry-level gear (where most whiz-bang features tend to be software).
2. Focus stacking with lots of fps. This seems more likely to me, especially if they market this as a macro option (since macro shots still can get kinda shallow DoF on a compact). Also, it's mostly a matter of software (provided there's processing power for it), which is more consistent with consumer products.
I see two options:
1. A pattern of dual pixels across the sensor (in addition to the ones for focusing?) which can take a deep depth of field and simulate a shallow one. While Canon has the technology for this (and this is definitely the cooler of the options), it feels too techie for them to use in entry-level gear (where most whiz-bang features tend to be software).
2. Focus stacking with lots of fps. This seems more likely to me, especially if they market this as a macro option (since macro shots still can get kinda shallow DoF on a compact). Also, it's mostly a matter of software (provided there's processing power for it), which is more consistent with consumer products.
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Besides, that one-eye-in-focus look is, um, artsy! :
;D I never miss! How absurd!Dylan777 said:
Besides, that one-eye-in-focus look is, um, artsy! :
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Re: New PowerShot & EOS Cameras to Offer DOF Control?
I know the consensus is that this wouldn't be true "Lightfield" technology. But, is there some reason to say that?
Just curious. It seems like sooner or later some manufacturer will incorporate the technology into DSLRs. Or is there some basic issue with the technology that would make that impossible?
I know the consensus is that this wouldn't be true "Lightfield" technology. But, is there some reason to say that?
Just curious. It seems like sooner or later some manufacturer will incorporate the technology into DSLRs. Or is there some basic issue with the technology that would make that impossible?
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No the Lytro thing has nothing to do with Av mode at all. It's almost more like capturing a hologram almost in a way.
But it's a tricky thing to pull off while maintaining a lot of MP and so on, so I'm kinda of surprised to hear about them managing to go there already with a DSLR.
dstppy said:
No the Lytro thing has nothing to do with Av mode at all. It's almost more like capturing a hologram almost in a way.
But it's a tricky thing to pull off while maintaining a lot of MP and so on, so I'm kinda of surprised to hear about them managing to go there already with a DSLR.
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But that is the whole point here it is not just shooting something at like f/36 and then apply art filters after. It's capturing the depth field itself when you shoot.
But I find it hard to believe Canon could have something like this working at the quality we expect from a DSLR for a DSLR. I tend to think this rumor is made up or the person sending it in radically misinterpreted something he overheard and maybe it's just bringing back the old EOS DOF click click shoot thing or something?? The latter would have nothing to do with the Lytro stuff at all.
Lightmaster said:
But that is the whole point here it is not just shooting something at like f/36 and then apply art filters after. It's capturing the depth field itself when you shoot.
But I find it hard to believe Canon could have something like this working at the quality we expect from a DSLR for a DSLR. I tend to think this rumor is made up or the person sending it in radically misinterpreted something he overheard and maybe it's just bringing back the old EOS DOF click click shoot thing or something?? The latter would have nothing to do with the Lytro stuff at all.
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My original EOS650 had that.
East Wind Photography said:
My original EOS650 had that.
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Canon will be coming out with the new 'Canon (dont) Think' camera soon I heard. You just imagine a photo and it appears on your camera, it's pretty rad.
No need to do ANYTHING! Now THAT'S PHOTOGRAPHY!
Canon will be coming out with the new 'Canon (dont) Think' camera soon I heard. You just imagine a photo and it appears on your camera, it's pretty rad.
No need to do ANYTHING! Now THAT'S PHOTOGRAPHY!
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This is why I keep coming back to Canon Rumors
A guy who nobody knows who is, overheard something that nobody is certain of what was and now a lot of people is discussing something that nobody really knows what is!
This is why I keep coming back to Canon Rumors
A guy who nobody knows who is, overheard something that nobody is certain of what was and now a lot of people is discussing something that nobody really knows what is!
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