Pro Mirrorless Mentions and More

[Canon Rumors]

<p><a href="http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/mirrorless.html" target="_blank">Keith over at Northlight</a> received some suggestions of new products to expect in 2016.</p>
<p>Pro Level Mirrorless Camera (and more)</p>
<ul>
<li>Expanding the EF-M system</li>
<li>First ConnectedCamera device</li>
<li>New technology sensor (APS-C)</li>
<li>Built in EEVF viewfinder</li>
<li>Pro level AF performance</li>
<li>Best in class video capability</li>
<li>Pro build quality with enhanced ergonomics</li>
<li>Wider support for the EF lens family</li>
</ul>
<p>This won’t come until after the EOS M3 gets an update in early 2016.</p>
<p>There was also a mention of a new full frame camera being announced for Photokina, Perhaps the EOS 6D Mark II? We expect to see an EOS-1D X and EOS 5D Mark IV before the September 2016 show.</p>
<p>More to come…</p>

 

[tyger11]

Best in class video? That's setting unrealistic expectations, I bet, but I'd be happy to be surprised.

 

[RGF]

new sensor technology

Will Canon release a layered sensor like the Foveon?

Bit surprising they would first introduce in the APS-C body until production is difficult.

 

[brad-man]

So it's apparently not a version of the M3. Sounds like a totally new camera with the M mount with all sorts of cutting edge stuff. This rumor stuff can be exasperating

 

[Lee Jay]

What is an EEVF?

 

[Loswr]

What is an EEVF?

I speculate:

Enhanced EVF

-or-

Economical EVF

Canon will call it the former, at least in public material.

 

[ahsanford]

'Pro mirrorless' sounds a lot more like the enthusiast EOS-M rig we've been asking for. Integral EVF + better AF are musts for that segment, IMHO, so I'm glad to see Canon slowly smell the coffee and join the world. I'm eager to see what they come up with.

What does "Wider support for the EF lens family" mean? Don't all EF lenses work just fine through that adapter, or is some EF glass locked out from working?

- A

 

[applecider]

And does the m mount support full frame direct connection? I thought it was physically too small, might be wrong though.

 

[Narretz]

Oh, so the pro mirrorless is APS-C? I assumed it would be FF.

 

[Zv]

'Pro mirrorless' sounds a lot more like the enthusiast EOS-M rig we've been asking for. Integral EVF + better AF are musts for that segment, IMHO, so I'm glad to see Canon slowly smell the coffee and join the world. I'm eager to see what they come up with.

What does "Wider support for the EF lens family" mean? Don't all EF lenses work just fine through that adapter, or is some EF glass locked out from working?

- A

Could be that they'll improve the AF with certain lenses with the adaptor so that it's comparable to normal EF mount speeds. Perhaps an updated EF - EFM adaptor to go with it?

 

[Deleted member 375103]

As long as the price of the other Ms drop with the new release, I'll be happy.

 

[Tugela]

Best in class video? That's setting unrealistic expectations, I bet, but I'd be happy to be surprised.

It will be called "best in class" in the marketing materials. Reality does not have to match that though, they just have to say that it is "the best", and that would be sufficient for most Canonites.

 

[Etienne]

"Best in class video capability" ... makes me think it's a hoax.

I don't think Canon has the ability to beat Sony A7sII, or even Samsung's NX1 for that matter. I'd like to be proven wrong, but there's a long track record of disappointment at this time. Even the C100 mk II was crippled a year ago, and not even a year later it is an embarassment to present it along side the Sony FS5.

Canon has some stiff competition to meet, they can't afford to be stingy today.

 

[infared]

Best in class video? That's setting unrealistic expectations, I bet, but I'd be happy to be surprised.

It will be called "best in class" in the marketing materials. Reality does not have to match that though, they just have to say that it is "the best", and that would be sufficient for most Canonites.

There are some great products in the Canon system...no doubt......but sometimes the fanbois definitely drink just a little too much of the Canon CoolAid.... It can be a bit scary at times... LOL!
...based on what Canon has "said" all along about the M system and then what has actually been delivered...I have all the confidence that my investment in a non-Canon mirrorless system for "my " needs will be unshaken. I am still here for the FF dance....even with all the noise out there that says different, though.

 

[ahsanford]

"Best in class video capability" ... makes me think it's a hoax.

I don't think Canon has the ability to beat Sony A7sII, or even Samsung's NX1 for that matter. I'd like to be proven wrong, but there's a long track record of disappointment at this time. Even the C100 mk II was crippled a year ago, and not even a year later it is an embarassment to present it along side the Sony FS5.

Canon has some stiff competition to meet, they can't afford to be stingy today.

Best in class would not be the A7S II -- that's full frame.

In APS-C video, they'd only have to beat Fuji (trivial), the A6000 (and its follow up) and Samsung's NX rigs (one of which has 4K).

- A

 

[ashmadux]

'Pro mirrorless' sounds a lot more like the enthusiast EOS-M rig we've been asking for. Integral EVF + better AF are musts for that segment, IMHO, so I'm glad to see Canon slowly smell the coffee and join the world. I'm eager to see what they come up with.

What does "Wider support for the EF lens family" mean? Don't all EF lenses work just fine through that adapter, or is some EF glass locked out from working?

- A

Could be that they'll improve the AF with certain lenses with the adaptor so that it's comparable to normal EF mount speeds. Perhaps an updated EF - EFM adaptor to go with it?

Maybe a new lens adapter also? Hmm. Well the old one has been very good to me

 

[Bob Howland]

"Wider support for the EF lens family"

Something similar to a Metabones Speed Booster, perhaps 1-1/3 stops???

 

[scottkinfw]

Suspending for a moment, all skepticism, Canon could knock one out of the ballpark if really, really, done right. On the other hand, it must be scary for them to release a product that could cannibalize their cash cows. I suspect that this in no small way is one factor delaying release of mirrorless from Canon.

Disruptive tech comes along, and it is good for us all. For me though, I'm all in for FF, and I won't be replacing my perfectly good glass. I will watch with great interest, and who knows, maybe one of the the second gen cameras my have my name on it.

sek

 

[9VIII]

I'm betting this is next-generation Dual Pixel AF.

Hopefully they come up with some creative new ways to use sensor-wide AF.
I think it would be cool to have a track pad or analog stick to move the AF point dynamically. None of this "choose your AF point/pattern" stuff, just move the AF point exactly where you want it on the subject.
Let people make the AF point any shape you want. A circle, a square, an x or +, heck just throw in support for the whole alphabet. Once you're not limited to a set of dots on the screen AF possibilities could get pretty crazy.

 

[keriboi]

Im more interested in the 6Dm2