*UPDATED* Big Megapixel Camera Next Week.

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<strong>*UPDATE 1* Nikon Announcements Next Week

</strong>A reader has written in about this post and says the big megapixel camera is from Nikon.</p>
<p>A Nikon division (I won’t mention the country) will be showing new Nikon products on August 24, 2011. The showing is “confidential” and will require an NDA. We already know the <a href="http://nikonrumors.com/2011/08/18/nikons-mirrorless-not-a-pro-camera-but-with-few-very-innovative-features.aspx/">Nikon mirrorless will be coming</a>.</p>
<p>Please don’t yell at me for posting Nikon stuff on Canon Rumors (trust me, it’ll happen).</p>
<p>Whatever Nikon does, could give some insight into what Canon and others in the industry will do. Photographic equipment companies rarely one up each other in the span of a month or so.</p>
<p><strong>Upcoming DSLRs

</strong>I received word that one manufacturer will surprise everyone with a big megapixel camera next Thursday, August 25, 2011.</p>
<p>The report is very vague, but comes from a bang on source. I’d almost [CR3] this.</p>
<p><strong>5D Mark III

</strong>Two great sources are both saying Canon is extremely quiet at the moment. There hasn’t been a real whisper about anything upcoming.</p>
<p>I am finished posting spec lists until I hear something more concrete.</p>
<p>A lot of people are talking about price drops of the 5D Mark II. It’s pretty interesting to me too. We’re coming up to 3 years on the Mark II. Maybe there will be something announced in 2011.</p>
<p>No one has received any press invites to a Canon event yet.</p>
<p>It looks like Nikon will announce first.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>

 

[mhunt]

Re: Big Megapixel Camera Next Week.

OH JEEZ I CAN'T WAIT.

If it's the 1ds mkiv that's cool. If it's the 5d mkiii, I go crazy jump of my car.

 

[thepancakeman]

Re: Big Megapixel Camera Next Week.

So any ideas what "big" is? 35? 45? 105? ;D

 

[dgsphto]

Re: Big Megapixel Camera Next Week.

"One of the manufacturers"....Could be Nikon then! -

Nikon has a press even on 8/24 and a 32MP D700 replacement is anticipated.

If it is indeed a Canon camera, I think it will be a 5Dmk3 with a 24-70 mk2 lens. To me, it does not make sense to announce a pro body first and then a prosumer one. They will easily get increased sales if they announce the prosumer one first followed by the pro body late this year/early next year. Based on how it's spec-ed out (32MP with longer shutter life with faster shutter and AF bundled with decent ISO and video performance) would be enough to win over many of the 1DSmk3 folks for a while till they are ready with the 1Dsmk4. Double dip as long as there are enough differentiators between the 5Dmk3 and 1Dsmk4!!

Canon 5D mk2 prices have been going down lately although not by my much. It's mostly the kit prices that are lower not the body itself prices.

They also recently seemed to have cleared a ton of inventory through Continental One-pass, Best Buy and various kits through other vendors. A formal "price drop" by about 10% bringing it back to the pre-disaster level is inevitable in the near future.

 

[bornshooter]

Re: Big Megapixel Camera Next Week.

i can't wait either i so hope its a 5d mk3 prices in the uk today dropped about £100 for most big retailers which is strange bring on the 5d mk3 i will buy straight away

 

[Bob Howland]

Re: Big Megapixel Camera Next Week.

almost everyone is expecting a 30+MP D4

They are?? I may not be as up on Nikon rumors as you, but the rumor that I read a while ago was an 18MP D4 and a 24MP D800/D900.

 

[dgsphto]

Re: Big Megapixel Camera Next Week.

almost everyone is expecting a 30+MP D4

They are?? I may not be as up on Nikon rumors as you, but the rumor that I read a while ago was an 18MP D4 and a 24MP D800/D900.

The D4 was a typo. I corrected it to D700 replacement a few minutes before this post..

The MP count is all across the board. Some say 18 while others say 24 yet I have read about 30 as well. To me, I think it will be a 24mp, but Nikon could surprise s with a 30+ as well...they (along with Sony) have had enough time to "catch up" (if I may! Not trying to start a war - ) on the sensor tech.

 

[Picsfor]

OK, popped into a top Canon Stockit in UK, replacing a few bit to whichcaemthat question "can i get you anything else?"

i responded that i hope to be in shortly for one fo the F/F bodies due to be announced to after Nikons first announcement. innocently - he asked which body that was supposed to be, My response being 1Ds4 or 1D5.

His eyes lifted, "since we got the 5D2 - 3 years ago, we haven't sold a single 1DsIII. At 3 years the 5D3 would be more than a suitable release and more than able to match most of Nikons plans, It doesn't even need that much work to get them selling in volumes quicker than Canon can produce them, and certainly the equal of any D800 nikon might have to offer! This would leave Canon till Christmas to sort out their 1D stragey ready for the games..."

All i say is - it had better have a dual memory card slot and better focusing, or the D800 is me!

 

[dgsphto]

"since we got the 5D2 - 3 years ago, we haven't sold a single 1DsIII.

The 5Dmk2 was probably closer to the 1Dsmk3 for many people than it was different. That’s why I said that as long as they have enough differentiators, they have the potential for double dip with launching the 5Dmk3 first and then the 1Dsmk4.

I think Canon has learnt their lesson with the 5Dmk2 eating into the 1Dsmk3 sales which is why there was probably a lot of talk about Canon reorganizing the prosumer and pro lines.

All i say is - it had better have a dual memory card slot and better focusing, or the D800 is me!

Amen!

 

[EYEONE]

All i say is - it had better have a dual memory card slot and better focusing, or the D800 is me!

Why does everyone go gaga over dual card slots?

 

[unfocused]

Keep in mind that the Sony Alpha a77 certainly fits into these specifications. The rumor says Aug. 25, but the date that is most often quoted is Aug. 24. I suppose it depends on what part of the world you are in, but the dates could certainly be the same.

As for a "big" megapixal camera; define big. It certainly seems that 24 mp on an APS-C camera could be considered "big" by many people.

I'm not saying that's the announcement, just that it fits the specifications. I hope that it is something bigger and more exciting, but, I'm not going to be terribly surprised if the Alpha a77 is the "big" announcement.

Actually, I am kind of excited by the Alpha a77 announcement because, as a 7D owner, I think it ups the bar for the 7D MarkII.

 

[dgsphto]

"A Nikon division (I won’t mention the country)..."

That would be Nikon Denmark.

 

[JasonM]

Why does everyone go gaga over dual card slots?

Data protection. Memory cards do fail or get corrupted occasionally.

 

[dgsphto]

All i say is - it had better have a dual memory card slot and better focusing, or the D800 is me!

Why does everyone go gaga over dual card slots?

Some of the Pros do because they want either/both of the below:
* Ability to write to 2 cards at the same time providing a backup if one card was to fail. This would minimize risk of losing images already taken and stored on the failed card.
* Parallel image writes from the buffer to cards would empty the buffer faster allowing for a longer high FPS operation before the buffer fills up.

 

[KrisU]

With four card slots they could implement RAID 5. ;D

 

[c-law]

Re: Big Megapixel Camera Next Week.

To me, it does not make sense to announce a pro body first and then a prosumer one. They will easily get increased sales if they announce the prosumer one first followed by the pro body late this year/early next year.

See, to me it seems more likely to be the other way round. If they release the 5DIII first then even if it is very well differentiated from the new 1DsIV (or whatever it'll be called), we won't know that as it won't be announced yet. So we will have a lot of pros who are eager for a new camera and being tempted by the 5D that now blows the 1DsIII out of the water (in some respects, MP and new features being the most prominent).

You are going to get pros buying a 5D and then regretting it later but not being able to afford/justify a 1Ds with a 5D first. If you release the 1D first all the pros buy it as it is the best most modern camera available to them. Then when the 5D is released, the people who were always too poor to buy the 1Ds will buy that and the people who could afford both will buy it too. The people who could afford one or the other but not both have already bought the 1Ds except the few people who hung around to decide after the newest camera was confirmed but by then they know the 1DV is just around the corner so they'll wait for that and end up mummified infront of a constantly refreshing Canon Rumors page.

Just my opinion but I think it makes sense as a way to preserve the most sales for both systems.

Chris

 

[fyngyrz]

Not looking for megapixels -- 21 is already too many for FF. Huge files, slow transfers, slow processing.

Looking for better low light performance; lower noise; better EVF previewing for longer exposures; GPS; wireless downloading; wireless charging; programmable exposures longer than 30 seconds; Switchable IR filtering (or none... I'd be happy to slap an IR block filter on the lenses when shooting normally.) (C'mon Canon, don't you want to sell a boatload of highly profitable filters???)

You know... things that will actually improve the images and the regimes, and the shooting experience, as opposed to giving us, yet again, an even more detailed view of the flaws in the lenses.

But of course, what we'll GET is... more megapixels. Bigger files. Slower processing. Slower transfers. Oh yeah, and more effort wasted on trying to inappropriately multipurpose these beautiful still cameras into video cameras. And maybe a new battery style so as to obsolete the hugely expensive ones we've already bought.

I am *so* tired of "Hey, look more megapixels!" and frankly, I'm not going to buy unless the camera actually performs better. Increases in megapixels work *against* my buy-in. And no, throwing out half or 3/4ths of the pixels in the camera isn't the right way to go -- the less sensor area involved in taking the shot, the more noise there will be. With a nominally high megapixel camera, you have to take the entire image and then bin the results in order to approach the actual noise reducing effect of larger sensels. So modes like SRAW and SRAW2 don't really help (unless the cameras are modified to do the binning, that would be a useful change.)

 

[rocketdesigner]

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To me, it does not make sense to announce a pro body first and then a prosumer one. They will easily get increased sales if they announce the prosumer one first followed by the pro body late this year/early next year.

It makes absolute perfect sense to announce the Pro body first...to get it into the hands of the Pro photographers who will be walking advertisements for Canon at next year's Olympics.

 

[dgsphto]

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It makes absolute perfect sense to announce the Pro body first...to get it into the hands of the Pro photographers who will be walking advertisements for Canon at next year's Olympics.

Oh, they will probably have both the bodies available by then allright! It's just the launch and initial avaiability could be staggered by a few months.

 

[dgsphto]

Not looking for megapixels -- 21 is already too many for FF. Huge files, slow transfers, slow processing.

But of course, what we'll GET is... more megapixels. Bigger files. Slower processing. Slower transfers. Oh yeah, and more effort wasted on trying to inappropriately multipurpose these beautiful still cameras into video cameras. And maybe a new battery style so as to obsolete the hugely expensive ones we've already bought.

I am *so* tired of "Hey, look more megapixels!" and frankly, I'm not going to buy unless the camera actually performs better.

All valid points. Your primary concern seems to be responsiveness.

I think the technology has evolved to a point where it's feasible to have a highly responsive camera even with the high megapixels. Advanced dual processors, better buffer management hardware/firmware, faster storage cards, dual slots, etc. Collectively, all of these should aid in a setup that is just as fast if not faster than the current top notch performers; even with the increased megapixels.

The only real problem with increased megapixels is the pixel density on the sensor and associated increase in noise levels. It would be interesting to see how they address that.

As for your video concerns, I think it only affects the pricing. I see it as a positive because it will definitely change the way memories are captured currently. The still and video coverages for an event are still being seen differently, but some are getting creative and merging the two to create a more immersive experience in revisiting those memories!