*UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

[Taylorpilot]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

So I don't see any mention of DPAF? I know it was believed that would be a feature earlier in the year. Is it off the list now?

 

[cjzajac]

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What do you mean the new 5D IV won't shoot 60p 4:4:4 8K with zero noise up to ISO 6400 and while preparing me a perfect beef bourguignon!?!?!? How about a perfect french omelet while shooting 50 MP stills at 14 fps with no noise and in perfect focus of a subject moving erratically at 150 mph??? No?

Oh Canon you've let me down.


I get a kick out of reading all the comments about what Canon should included. So many want it to be the greatest and last camera they will every need. Tech keeps improving. It's always incremental. There will be another generation EOS-5D or maybe a EOS-3D or maybe someday an EOS-TK421D. All the specs I seen look good to me. I would like to see 8fps, but I can live with 7 fps. There is always the 1DX II for mega still fps. I will definitely be considering the Mark IV to add to my equipment when it arrives.

 

[Perio]

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With 16-bit color depth, Sony probably produces the best (albeit at a significant price premium) hardware in the industry when it comes to color rendition.

on what does sony have 16 bit color depth?

Their 101MP MF sensor.

I guess your P1 XF requires much less, if any, skintone correction than Sony.

Which is why the XF literature states "Professional Color Management and Digital Photography are as essential as the hardware when it comes to perfect results."

So, if XF requires barely any color correction, why do you suggest process thousands of photographs taken with Sony rather than have great skintones with Canon straight from the camera?

 

[RBC5]

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If you don't mind my bringing this back to the original post for a second, I have a question...

There are 'sources' giving these new specs for the IV, but what about that original thing that is new to DSLRs that was teased a while ago? Any sources happen to know what that is?

 

[3kramd5]

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With 16-bit color depth, Sony probably produces the best (albeit at a significant price premium) hardware in the industry when it comes to color rendition.

on what does sony have 16 bit color depth?

Their 101MP MF sensor.

I guess your P1 XF requires much less, if any, skintone correction than Sony.

Which is why the XF literature states "Professional Color Management and Digital Photography are as essential as the hardware when it comes to perfect results."

So, if XF requires barely any color correction, why do you suggest process thousands of photographs taken with Sony rather than have great skintones with Canon straight from the camera?

1) I think there is a language barrier because I didn't suggest doing anything of the sort. I'm merely pointing out that what is likely the state-of-the-art I/O devices in digital color photography (outside perhaps some scientific instruments) are designed and build by Sony, thus dismissing the notion that Sony has ugly color science.


2) The XF requires no more and no less color correction than any other camera. Profile your camera and apply the profile when you import. Also, calibrate your display(s) and printers. When I import from my Canon cameras and import from my Sony cameras, the tones appear the same; my workflow is calibrated.

 

[Loswr]

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It's always incremental. There will be another generation EOS-5D or maybe a EOS-3D or maybe someday an EOS-TK421D.

That may work for you, personally I'm going to hold out for the EOS-THX1138D.

 

[Perio]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

With 16-bit color depth, Sony probably produces the best (albeit at a significant price premium) hardware in the industry when it comes to color rendition.

on what does sony have 16 bit color depth?

Their 101MP MF sensor.

I guess your P1 XF requires much less, if any, skintone correction than Sony.

Which is why the XF literature states "Professional Color Management and Digital Photography are as essential as the hardware when it comes to perfect results."

So, if XF requires barely any color correction, why do you suggest process thousands of photographs taken with Sony rather than have great skintones with Canon straight from the camera?

1) I think there is a language barrier because I didn't suggest doing anything of the sort. I'm merely pointing out that what is likely the state-of-the-art I/O devices in digital color photography (outside perhaps some scientific instruments) are designed and build by Sony, thus dismissing the notion that Sony has ugly color science.


2) The XF requires no more and no less color correction than any other camera. Profile your camera and apply the profile when you import. Also, calibrate your display(s) and printers. When I import from my Canon cameras and import from my Sony cameras, the tones appear the same; my workflow is calibrated.

1. I do not think it's correct to assume that the sensors from let's say a7rii and XF have the same skintone rendition.
2. XF, like Hassy and Leica S, requires almost no correction of skintones. I almost never correct skintone from my Leica S.

 

[3kramd5]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

Tone rendition is entirely due to software, and since I shoot raw, the camera's software is irrelevant.

 

[Mr. Milo]

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So I don't see any mention of DPAF? I know it was believed that would be a feature earlier in the year. Is it off the list now?

I'm not worried about DPAF. Mark IV will have it. The real question is will this thing have C-log has mentioned by DigitalRev. He sounds sure of it. We'll see.

I'm disappointed at the 120 FPS at 720p. Lame of Canon to do that. Why? I don't get it.

 

[DslmNut]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

You think that Dual Pixel focus is a given, or do I need to ask if it will have that?

 

[unfocused]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

You think that Dual Pixel focus is a given, or do I need to ask if it will have that?

It is a given.

 

[MrToes]

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Would love to see some of the Sensor Technology of the 1DX II in the 5d IV! What if they would release an all new revolutionary sensor in the Mark IV? I know I'm dreaming, it would slow down the 1DX sales down. DPAF in stills would be very nice to play with!

 

[Go Wild]

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Hello Guys,

Wow! more than 400 comments...at least surely is an expected camera!!

I read them all but just going to focus ont last ones.

1 - It is normal that most of us expect different things, like most of us have different photography fields. It´s kinda strange to argue if the camera is good, or bad because it can only fullfill or not our needs. We can say that it´s not an apropriate camera for us, but to put it in general it´s not correct! Neither criticizing, nor not accepting that it´s not good.

2 - It is also not really normal, video guys come here blasting the new camera because the camera it´s not a monster in video! Really guys???? I know that in these days whe want everything in a camera, but seriously? Do you want a full dedicated video camera in a DSLR still camera? Can you complain to be able to buy a primarily still camera that makes all of this? Why don´t you go for a video dedicated camera?? Buy a Red Epic, a blackmagic, or a Sony! Well, or buy some of the cinema cameras in Canon! I am sorry, bu i cannot take seriously one person that claims that cannot work with 30fps 4k, or it cannot work with 1080p! If that person can´t work with this, he must be a trully mega filmmaker with a huge budget! If someone cannot work with this you must work with a Red one! Not a DSLR!!! and of course 120fps would be great at 1080p! But for that, you have 1dx II. Canon just simply cannot canibalize machines!! It cannot deliver you everything in every machine!

3 - Sony guys....come on! Sony can have a great sensor, it has. But i would never work professionaly with a Sony, for a loooot of reasons! Being able to grab the shot it not only about the sensor! I see a lot of guys struggling with their A7 RII 3200 thousand dollar camera, because bateries just dry and they need 10 bateries for a job of 1 hour, or missing the focus and getting crazy about nailing the focus. This is real world in my world! Sony for me, it has a great image but it´s not an option....period! But thats just me!

4- Finishing, i just love my 5D MkIII and i really like the specs of the 5DIV. But i think i am not going to get it, because 7D markII for me was a disaster and i am going to sell the 2 bodys to get the 1D xII.

But honestly.....The camera with the confirmed specs is going to be a great all around camera! You can make mostly everything with her. Will be nice for wildlife and sports (7fps is not quite excelent but it´s enough), will be nice for weddings, for landscape and other purposes like video! But we do need to see, how it manages in real life, and things about iso noise, DR, and overall image quality...

That´s my thougts....Sorry about any english mistake...

 

[3kramd5]

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[quote author=Go Wild]I see a lot of guys struggling with their A7 RII 3200 thousand dollar camera
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That's some markup!

Seriously, though, I wouldn't bring my A7R II to shoot fast moving sports, animals, or long lens use, but for every else I use it more than my 5D bodies.

Chances are I'll replace my 5D3s with the upcoming model as mine are showing some wear and tear. The make or break for me will be form factor. If they make changes which obsolete my accessories, I'll buy a couple more 5D3s, but I don't expect that they will.

 

[Go Wild]

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[quote author=Go Wild]I see a lot of guys struggling with their A7 RII 3200 thousand dollar camera

That's some markup!

Seriously, though, I wouldn't bring my A7R II to shoot fast moving sports, animals, or long lens use, but for every else I use it more than my 5D bodies.
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I dont see how it is a markup...it the price of a Sony in this moment....body only, if you want to use canon lenses you have to buy the metabones wich are also expensives...
I have said it´s my opinion in what i see...for you it could be fine! But i see the guys struggling in events!! And i just smile!

 

[John2016]

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Gosh, I've not been around CR much recently, I'm surprised how rare this is now. I've read through like twenty pages and this is the first 'most of the photographers I know* have switched to Sony' bullpoop from a new forum user.

Would something change if I tell you that this 20 users are top D.P in Los Angeles? (Using Sony as on set or B and C camera)
Not a "majority" of Canon users but for sure more knowledgeable "readers" of the moving image then majority here in the forum...

Something about Sony vs Canon colour science:
http://www.eoshd.com/2015/11/sony-vs-canon-colour-science-does-this-explain-the-difference/

Great 1dx mkII:
http://www.eoshd.com/2016/05/canon-1d-x-mark-ii-high-iso-and-colour-performance-worse-than-predecessor/

Canon 80D video: (Welcome in 2016)
http://www.eoshd.com/2016/03/short-note-canon-80d-has-no-improvement-in-video-quality/

 

[Taylorpilot]

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[quote author=Go Wild]I see a lot of guys struggling with their A7 RII 3200 thousand dollar camera

That's some markup!

Seriously, though, I wouldn't bring my A7R II to shoot fast moving sports, animals, or long lens use, but for every else I use it more than my 5D bodies.

I dont see how it is a markup...it the price of a Sony in this moment....body only, if you want to use canon lenses you have to buy the metabones wich are also expensives...
I have said it´s my opinion in what i see...for you it could be fine! But i see the guys struggling in events!! And i just smile!
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He was playing. 3200 thousand is $3.2 million

 

[Gnocchi]

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I think that the lens pictured in the photo is anew 50mm. It looks different around the switch area than the current 50mm L.
What do ya think?

 

[3kramd5]

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[quote author=Go Wild]I see a lot of guys struggling with their A7 RII 3200 thousand dollar camera

That's some markup!

Seriously, though, I wouldn't bring my A7R II to shoot fast moving sports, animals, or long lens use, but for every else I use it more than my 5D bodies.

I dont see how it is a markup...it the price of a Sony in this moment....body only, if you want to use canon lenses you have to buy the metabones wich are also expensives...
I have said it´s my opinion in what i see...for you it could be fine! But i see the guys struggling in events!! And i just smile!

He was playing. 3200 thousand is $3.2 million
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What's $3,196,800 between internet friends?

 

[Go Wild]

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Gosh, I've not been around CR much recently, I'm surprised how rare this is now. I've read through like twenty pages and this is the first 'most of the photographers I know* have switched to Sony' bullpoop from a new forum user.

Would something change if I tell you that this 20 users are top D.P in Los Angeles? (Using Sony as on set or B and C camera)
Not a "majority" of Canon users but for sure more knowledgeable "readers" of the moving image then majority here in the forum...

Something about Sony vs Canon colour science:
http://www.eoshd.com/2015/11/sony-vs-canon-colour-science-does-this-explain-the-difference/

Great 1dx mkII:
http://www.eoshd.com/2016/05/canon-1d-x-mark-ii-high-iso-and-colour-performance-worse-than-predecessor/

Canon 80D video: (Welcome in 2016)
http://www.eoshd.com/2016/03/short-note-canon-80d-has-no-improvement-in-video-quality/

Do you realise that you are talking about a guy that works with Sony....and do you really expect that the guy go to his blog to hail Canon?? Really?