*UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

[arthurbikemad]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

Well I'm out for now....

1DX2 here tomorrow.. 8)

 

[mnclayshooter]

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The ONLY thing that does my nut in a little with the 1DX2 is that shutter NOISE!

The 1DX2 "silent" shutter really isn't so bad. Any wildlife will know there's a human mooching around so a slightly less quiet shutter isn't too much of a problem. You could always video things and grab a frame if noise is the deal breaker. So far the full 14fps hasn't spooked any wildlife for me yet. Maybe my local wildlife is used to the sound of gunfire.

If you have USM lenses and allow them to auto focus, you've already given away the game before you ever release the shutter.

The loudest sound I could measure from my 5D3 was the USM focus motor. I seem to recall it was at 30 kHz, which is well within the audible range for many animals (house cats in my specific case). Worse yet, the mirror clean vibration, while much higher in frequency (around 100 kHz if I remember right), was equally loud and audible to my cats.

So simply turning on the camera and focusing has already alerted the target. If they stick around, the mirror slapping will merely confirm to them you're one of those humans...

+1 - the dog wouldn't stay anywhere in the room when the USM was doing its' thing. On MF, dog would sit peacefully... when on AF - a furry blur could be seen exiting the room.

 

[ashmadux]

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52 pages and going....holy hell you guys are on your game.

(doesn't have enough popcorn) 8) ;D

 

[scyrene]

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The ONLY thing that does my nut in a little with the 1DX2 is that shutter NOISE!

The 1DX2 "silent" shutter really isn't so bad. Any wildlife will know there's a human mooching around so a slightly less quiet shutter isn't too much of a problem. You could always video things and grab a frame if noise is the deal breaker. So far the full 14fps hasn't spooked any wildlife for me yet. Maybe my local wildlife is used to the sound of gunfire.

If you have USM lenses and allow them to auto focus, you've already given away the game before you ever release the shutter.

The loudest sound I could measure from my 5D3 was the USM focus motor. I seem to recall it was at 30 kHz, which is well within the audible range for many animals (house cats in my specific case). Worse yet, the mirror clean vibration, while much higher in frequency (around 100 kHz if I remember right), was equally loud and audible to my cats.

So simply turning on the camera and focusing has already alerted the target. If they stick around, the mirror slapping will merely confirm to them you're one of those humans...

+1 - the dog wouldn't stay anywhere in the room when the USM was doing its' thing. On MF, dog would sit peacefully... when on AF - a furry blur could be seen exiting the room.

One of my sister's cats is the same. The camera doesn't bother him at all, until I try to autofocus and then something about the sound makes him head for the hills. It's not loud, I wonder why they hate it so much?

 

[Talley]

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52 pages and going....holy hell you guys are on your game.

(doesn't have enough popcorn) 8) ;D

This has been the one thread to bring all the hits to CR. CR owner is loving this right now for sure...

..and I bet if they had more info they are just waiting for the hits to die down and then BAM post more....

 

[StudentOfLight]

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52 pages and going....holy hell you guys are on your game.

(doesn't have enough popcorn) 8) ;D

Yep, I ran out of popcorn yesterday :'(

 

[Sharlin]

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One of my sister's cats is the same. The camera doesn't bother him at all, until I try to autofocus and then something about the sound makes him head for the hills. It's not loud, I wonder why they hate it so much?

How do you know it's not loud? By definition you cannot hear it

 

[monkey44]

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Tried to find this answer, but no luck. Does anyone know if the "kit lens" with the 5DM4 will be a 24/105 L is II (a new version?), or the same one that exists now as a kit in other cameras??

 

[Eldar]

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Tried to find this answer, but no luck. Does anyone know if the "kit lens" with the 5DM4 will be a 24/105 L is II (a new version?), or the same one that exists now as a kit in other cameras??

Rumors tells us that we will see a MkII.

 

[privatebydesign]

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Tried to find this answer, but no luck. Does anyone know if the "kit lens" with the 5DM4 will be a 24/105 L is II (a new version?), or the same one that exists now as a kit in other cameras??

I thought I saw it said the kits would be body only, or body with 24-105 f4 L MkII, or body with 24-70 f4 L. But remember not all markets get all the kit options so at this point even those that know about the new lens won't necessarily know about the available kit options by geographic area.

 

[GuyF]

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Well I'm out for now....

1DX2 here tomorrow.. 8)

Result! You've just taken your first steps into a better world.

Unless of course you buy a lemon and the 5D4 proves to be a giant killer. *sigh* You pays yer money and takes yer choice.

 

[crashpc]

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I can´t, I´cant, I can not. Cannot do that. Cannot read it all... :-D

 

[arthurbikemad]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

Well I'm out for now....

1DX2 here tomorrow.. 8)

Result! You've just taken your first steps into a better world.

Unless of course you buy a lemon and the 5D4 proves to be a giant killer. *sigh* You pays yer money and takes yer choice.

Cheers Guy, all the hype for the 5D Mk4 has driven me crazy, for me it's ended....haha Anyway I am loving the 500/4ii (got the other week) so much I figure it deserves a decent body, something with a little "punch" , it's cost some dosh but to hell with it, happy days shooting by the river, priceless

 

[GuyF]

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..I am loving the 500/4ii (got the other week) so much I figure it deserves a decent body, something with a little "punch"...

Yup, same combo I use (I think I may have recommended the lens to you too ). As much as the 5D3 is still a great camera, moving to the 1DX2 is terrific. Poor light? Bang up the ISO and keep shooting!

If you haven't already done so, register your gear with CPS Europe. It's free in Europe and you don't need to be a pro to use the service, just have enough qualifying gear and off you go. One of the benefits is you'll get an extra 1yr warranty for your 1DX2.

 

[mnclayshooter]

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The ONLY thing that does my nut in a little with the 1DX2 is that shutter NOISE!

The 1DX2 "silent" shutter really isn't so bad. Any wildlife will know there's a human mooching around so a slightly less quiet shutter isn't too much of a problem. You could always video things and grab a frame if noise is the deal breaker. So far the full 14fps hasn't spooked any wildlife for me yet. Maybe my local wildlife is used to the sound of gunfire.

If you have USM lenses and allow them to auto focus, you've already given away the game before you ever release the shutter.

The loudest sound I could measure from my 5D3 was the USM focus motor. I seem to recall it was at 30 kHz, which is well within the audible range for many animals (house cats in my specific case). Worse yet, the mirror clean vibration, while much higher in frequency (around 100 kHz if I remember right), was equally loud and audible to my cats.

So simply turning on the camera and focusing has already alerted the target. If they stick around, the mirror slapping will merely confirm to them you're one of those humans...

+1 - the dog wouldn't stay anywhere in the room when the USM was doing its' thing. On MF, dog would sit peacefully... when on AF - a furry blur could be seen exiting the room.

One of my sister's cats is the same. The camera doesn't bother him at all, until I try to autofocus and then something about the sound makes him head for the hills. It's not loud, I wonder why they hate it so much?

Ultra high frequency - like a dog whistle. For me - it only happened with certain lenses... all of which are USM (ultrasonic). 50 STM didn't seem to bother him... but he was getting pretty old at that point, hearing loss might have been a factor.

 

[Jack Douglas]

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One of my sister's cats is the same. The camera doesn't bother him at all, until I try to autofocus and then something about the sound makes him head for the hills. It's not loud, I wonder why they hate it so much?

How do you know it's not loud? By definition you cannot hear it

LOL

Jack

 

[George D.]

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So no new updates? We are getting pretty close here... Lenses? More specs? Anything?

Canon are on summer vacation or tuned in the Olympics. For the top stills model we're given video specs, maybe with a grain of salt (120fps@1080p? confirmed since May: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=29923.0). Time to hit the beach (or mountain) until some sensor IQ, ISO range or AF info comes up...

I was looking for a Foveon sensor actually :

 

[zim]

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Did that little experiment extracting stills using high shutter speed on video, on first try more than anything I have issues with focus. Don't want to ask any more questions on this thread, maybe start a new one. Want to read the manual and try again first ;D


Back to that leak photo, wonder where the microphone holes have been moved to?

 

[Jack Douglas]

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..I am loving the 500/4ii (got the other week) so much I figure it deserves a decent body, something with a little "punch"...

Yup, same combo I use (I think I may have recommended the lens to you too ). As much as the 5D3 is still a great camera, moving to the 1DX2 is terrific. Poor light? Bang up the ISO and keep shooting!

If you haven't already done so, register your gear with CPS Europe. It's free in Europe and you don't need to be a pro to use the service, just have enough qualifying gear and off you go. One of the benefits is you'll get an extra 1yr warranty for your 1DX2.

I recall looking at the CPS requirements here in Canada and it seems to me you had to produce proof of earning a living with the gear or essentially that. A 1DX II purchase for me would take care of the rest, so anyone please clarify.

I've been going nuts over this 30 MP vs 1DX II 20 MP since I often have to crop quite a lot. I really want the 1DX II if it were not for that. So the question I guess is this, is it likely the difference is not as great as it would seem based on the trade-offs that come with smaller pixel pitch?

Regarding fps the DP review page has a sequence of shots at 14fps, by skipping i.e. 1,3,5 .... you can see what 7 fps would be giving you. You can slide back one frame and say "now would be happy if I missed this". Of course everyone would like more but this helps to evaluate as opposed to speculate.

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-1D-X-Mark-II.aspx

Jack

 

[[email protected]]

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@admin, you said earlier the 5DIV will have better video features than the 1DX2. From this spec list it is far from the case.
So do we expect real full frame 4k (no crop), C-LOG and so on then?