*UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

[scyrene]

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One of my sister's cats is the same. The camera doesn't bother him at all, until I try to autofocus and then something about the sound makes him head for the hills. It's not loud, I wonder why they hate it so much?

How do you know it's not loud? By definition you cannot hear it

Ha! That's a good point. But I *can* hear it focusing... but not the ultrasonic part (edit: yes, I was only considering the audible part of the noise, silly me!). So yeah, you're right - maybe it's really noisy in ultrasound... I wonder if anyone with the appropriate equipment could do a test?

 

[E]

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8bit 500mbps MJPEG is about 62.5 Mb/sec. That could work without CFast.
So for MJPEG that would allow just over 2Mb per 4k frame at 30fps.
In my experience 8+Mp images that are only 2Mb aren't that great.
Guess I'll wait to reserve judgement on the images but the spec isn't too exciting for 4k video shooters.

If it looks like some of the 1DX2 videos I've seen (which I Imagine it should) it will look fantastic.

Yes, but there was a quote I posted from a review site a while back that stated that while 4K was great, the HD results were poor. Not being well versed in video I didn't really get why that was the case so I'm still wondering. I'd be interested in further illumination.

Just hunted for it and here it is. There was a very thorough reply that made sense but it tends to go over my head at this point, not having been doing much video with the 6D.

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=30001.msg602086#msg602086

Jack

Here is a summary quote from the review that really sounds bad.

"However, if you thought the Canon 1D X mark II was the next step in video evolution after the Canon 1D C, then you’d be disappointed. It looks as though the video features of the 1D C have been carried over to the 1D X mark II, the valuable log gamma was left behind and HD mode is now useless (Why, Canon, why???). At the end of the day there is little difference between the two cameras."

If this is true, then it's really sad that there was no 1D C mark II. I checked release dates, and the 1D X and the 1D C were both released Q2 2012.

 

[Sporgon]

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Seriously, there was a first time poster some time back in this thread who stated 'the future is video' and everyone will just take their stills from the 4K vid, and so the 5DIV specs are a disaster etc, etc.

In fact there is a move in some areas towards doing this for still images; I have a friend who is a professional in an international automotive industry, and this is what he is now doing, through demand from the client. But of course he is using a 4K video camera, not a dslr !

Do you have an iPhone that can take and send/receive "moments"?

No, I don't use a smart phone. They don't suit my lifestyle. Why, were you going to send me a 'moment' ?

Because now with iPhones, you can capture "moments" when you take a picture and send a "moment". They're generally a short (couple of second) video clips that essentially let you send an "animated" or "live" photo.

That's the sort of thing that the younger generation have available to them now "easily" which is part of why some might say that "the future is video."

Who wants to send a picture of a smile when you can send a short live picture of someone laughing?

Think back to Blade Runner where you see him looking at the picture of the front of a house and you see the shadows move. That's not a picture, that's video. Anyone want to invent "video paper"?

dilbert Old Pal, I do have two teenage daughters, I know all about snapchat and all the rest of that crap.

Video, filming, moving pictures have a growing place in photography as a whole, but my point is that those that are doing it seriously are using a 4K video camera, not a dslr.

I break iPhones, and when I'm not breaking them the constant recharging drives me nuts.

 

[scyrene]

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I break iPhones, and when I'm not breaking them the constant recharging drives me nuts.

This is waaay off topic, but in case it helps anyone... there are things one can do to extend the battery life. There's a 'low power mode' in the battery settings, that turns off some background app data usage, and along with, say, having the screen only moderately bright, I find can make the phone last two or three days between charging with moderate use (though it's worth noting I use the 6 Plus, which has a higher capacity battery than the smaller versions).

 

[jeffa4444]

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With the closing ceremony for the Rio Olympics Sunday 21st and Canon announcement Thursday 25th August they have to have cameras in Rio, wonder if anyone has spotted professional photographers with them?

 

[mikekx102]

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I've read most of the posts here. And that's a lot! I would imagine this thread has the highest post count on canon rumors. Anyone know if its true?

One of the things I've noticed is that many people really care about the camera's video performance. Many people have also commented that people shooting video and who care about these features should be using a video camera. I find this last train of thought to be incorrect. Perhaps for Professional use this is good advice, however I'm a novice and although I want a really good all round stills camera, I'm also keen on making screen savers of landscapes. Ie. a loop of waves crashing on rocks. My 6D video quality is absolutely disgusting, so I'm keenly awaiting sample video and 4k video is very important to me.
I'm sure it will be a great upgrade from my 6D and cant wait for it to be released

Mike.

 

[Guillaume GLEIZE]

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Sorry I arrived on this VIDEO forum by error because I look for a PHOTOGRAPHER forum: Can you tell me where to go to know about the next PHOTOGRAPHY Canon production?

TY - GG - Photographer

 

[Buck]

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I've read most of the posts here. And that's a lot! I would imagine this thread has the highest post count on canon rumors. Anyone know if its true?

One of the things I've noticed is that many people really care about the camera's video performance. Many people have also commented that people shooting video and who care about these features should be using a video camera. I find this last train of thought to be incorrect. Perhaps for Professional use this is good advice, however I'm a novice and although I want a really good all round stills camera, I'm also keen on making screen savers of landscapes. Ie. a loop of waves crashing on rocks. My 6D video quality is absolutely disgusting, so I'm keenly awaiting sample video and 4k video is very important to me.
I'm sure it will be a great upgrade from my 6D and cant wait for it to be released

Mike.

You are comparing a $2800 5d3 camera to a $ 1700 6d camera. You want quality you are going to have to pay for it.

 

[PureClassA]

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Video paper? Might that be an extension of e-ink (Kindle tech)?

The Daily Prophet already has it!

;D Nice

 

[mikekx102]

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I've read most of the posts here. And that's a lot! I would imagine this thread has the highest post count on canon rumors. Anyone know if its true?

One of the things I've noticed is that many people really care about the camera's video performance. Many people have also commented that people shooting video and who care about these features should be using a video camera. I find this last train of thought to be incorrect. Perhaps for Professional use this is good advice, however I'm a novice and although I want a really good all round stills camera, I'm also keen on making screen savers of landscapes. Ie. a loop of waves crashing on rocks. My 6D video quality is absolutely disgusting, so I'm keenly awaiting sample video and 4k video is very important to me.
I'm sure it will be a great upgrade from my 6D and cant wait for it to be released

Mike.

You are comparing a $2800 5d3 camera to a $ 1700 6d camera. You want quality you are going to have to pay for it.

I'm not comparing a 6D to a 5D III, just saying that that the 6D is what I'm going to upgrade from. And I'm happy to pay for it, I'm just keen for it to be released. I'd prefer it came with a CFast 2.0 Card slot as I have not invested in CF at all, and would be keen to see 4k raw magic lantern video in the future (if it gets released). But hopefully the video quality will be great and so I wouldn't feel the need for raw video anyway.

 

[PureClassA]

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Fashion models aren't moving erratically in and out of the plane of focus though ;-) Still frame grabs for that sort of work could actually be the most ideal scenario for its use. The model is constantly changing poses and expressions and good 24fps or more at high shutter speeds mixed with constant lighting and a RAW capture (like the Reds can) ... actually pretty perfect, provided you don't need more than 8.8 MP.

With sports or other fast action, even DPAF on a Canon I don't believe can keep up with as good a tracking as old reliable AI Servo can.

Anyone shooting video to create still photos is a hack. Your friend who is a "professional" will be out of business soon if this is how he/she operates. It often sounds like people take more pride in owning "the best" equipment than they do using it to create beautiful images.

Some of the most talented fashion photographers in the world are using Red cameras. Go to there web-site and visit the photography tab. ASOS the online clothing retailer has been mixing frame grabs from video for years I think you need to wake up and smell the coffee the two worlds collided years ago.

Conversely tell Annie Leibovitz she is heading for the scrap heap!

 

[PureClassA]

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With the closing ceremony for the Rio Olympics Sunday 21st and Canon announcement Thursday 25th August they have to have cameras in Rio, wonder if anyone has spotted professional photographers with them?

I'm quite sure the 5D4 bodies that are there are either unmarked are falsely marked as 5D III as the bodies will be almost identical and indistinguishable at casual glance. I mean, were I Canon, that's what I would do...

 

[delta0014]

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I think the reason people are talking so much about the video features is that it's almost a given that it is gonna be an incredible camera for stills.

Video is still up in the air. DPAF? 4K? Frame rate for 4K?

As an amateur, I want it to do both if I'm gonna buy it. I don't want multiple bodies, one for video and one for stills.

 

[Jack Douglas]

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I think the reason people are talking so much about the video features is that it's almost a given that it is gonna be an incredible camera for stills.

Video is still up in the air. DPAF? 4K? Frame rate for 4K?

As an amateur, I want it to do both if I'm gonna buy it. I don't want multiple bodies, one for video and one for stills.

No question, there are those of us that are not super serious about video but are leaning towards shooting more video if the quality and ease of use improve (DPAF, WOW). When I bought the 1D IV, I didn't even question if it had video and when I found out it did I was surprised given how hidden in the menus it was!

Jack

 

[PaulMackX]

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I've read most of the posts here. And that's a lot! I would imagine this thread has the highest post count on canon rumors. Anyone know if its true?

It's about to catch the 7D II thread in this board:

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?board=2.0;sort=replies;desc

 

[Loswr]

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I've read most of the posts here. And that's a lot! I would imagine this thread has the highest post count on canon rumors. Anyone know if its true?

It's about to catch the 7D II thread in this board:

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?board=2.0;sort=replies;desc

Perhaps the highest post count for a rumor thread, I haven't checked. But for overall post count, with 800-some-odd replies it's nowhere even close to the Show your Bird Portraits thread, which has close to 11,000 posts and nearly 2.5 million thread views.

 

[PureClassA]

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Looks like Canon just won EISA awards for Best Pro DSLR (1DX2) best DSLR (80D) best lens (35L 1.4 Mk2) this year.

Canon is doomed. Doooooooooomed!

 

[Don Haines]

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Canon is doomed. Doooooooooomed!

You keep using that word. I do not think you know what it means.....

 

[Dave Del Real]

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Canon is doomed. Doooooooooomed!

You keep using that word. I do not think you know what it means.....

Inconceivable!

 

[unfocused]

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I've read most of the posts here. And that's a lot! I would imagine this thread has the highest post count on canon rumors. Anyone know if its true?

It's about to catch the 7D II thread in this board:

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?board=2.0;sort=replies;desc

Lots of replies, but doesn't look like very many are finding it interesting and worthwhile (based on the relative number of views). Could it be that people are just talking to themselves?