Waterscapes

hovland said:
North Sea, UK sector

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Interesting photo. Like the watersports stuff, however, I think it would be best if we could keep the industry off this thread. It was really meant to be waterscapes...landscape photos that are primarily about the water in them, like brooks and creeks and cascades and waterfalls, rivers & lakes with mountain or landscape backdrops, coastlines (lighthouses, docks, and piers are ok), etc.

I was really looking for the artistic side of watery landscapes, not sports and oil rigs. I don't mean to be callous, but there are so many beautiful photos that you guys could be posting, like the one just posted by ckwalker near Galveston, TX. THAT is what this thread is supposed to be about! :P
 
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jrista said:
hovland said:
North Sea, UK sector

9Z5A5353.jpg

Sigma 150-500, at 500mm

Interesting photo. Like the watersports stuff, however, I think it would be best if we could keep the industry off this thread. It was really meant to be waterscapes...landscape photos that are primarily about the water in them, like brooks and creeks and cascades and waterfalls, rivers & lakes with mountain or landscape backdrops, coastlines (lighthouses, docks, and piers are ok), etc.

I was really looking for the artistic side of watery landscapes, not sports and oil rigs. I don't mean to be callous, but there are so many beautiful photos that you guys could be posting, like the one just posted by ckwalker near Galveston, TX. THAT is what this thread is supposed to be about! :P

Seems as if you like being negative. Maybe that is keeping people from posting waterscapes in your thread? I'd never post one of mine here, I know it wouldn't be up to your standards!
 
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CarlTN said:
jrista said:
hovland said:
North Sea, UK sector

9Z5A5353.jpg

Sigma 150-500, at 500mm

Interesting photo. Like the watersports stuff, however, I think it would be best if we could keep the industry off this thread. It was really meant to be waterscapes...landscape photos that are primarily about the water in them, like brooks and creeks and cascades and waterfalls, rivers & lakes with mountain or landscape backdrops, coastlines (lighthouses, docks, and piers are ok), etc.

I was really looking for the artistic side of watery landscapes, not sports and oil rigs. I don't mean to be callous, but there are so many beautiful photos that you guys could be posting, like the one just posted by ckwalker near Galveston, TX. THAT is what this thread is supposed to be about! :P

Seems as if you like being negative. Maybe that is keeping people from posting waterscapes in your thread? I'd never post one of mine here, I know it wouldn't be up to your standards!

It isn't a matter of standards, it's a matter of subject. Oil rigs aren't a waterscape. Windsurfers aren't waterscapes. That's all I'm saying. Just trying to keep the thread on topic. No need to be insulting.
 
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jrista said:
CarlTN said:
jrista said:
hovland said:
North Sea, UK sector

9Z5A5353.jpg

Sigma 150-500, at 500mm

Interesting photo. Like the watersports stuff, however, I think it would be best if we could keep the industry off this thread. It was really meant to be waterscapes...landscape photos that are primarily about the water in them, like brooks and creeks and cascades and waterfalls, rivers & lakes with mountain or landscape backdrops, coastlines (lighthouses, docks, and piers are ok), etc.

I was really looking for the artistic side of watery landscapes, not sports and oil rigs. I don't mean to be callous, but there are so many beautiful photos that you guys could be posting, like the one just posted by ckwalker near Galveston, TX. THAT is what this thread is supposed to be about! :P

Seems as if you like being negative. Maybe that is keeping people from posting waterscapes in your thread? I'd never post one of mine here, I know it wouldn't be up to your standards!

It isn't a matter of standards, it's a matter of subject. Oil rigs aren't a waterscape. Windsurfers aren't waterscapes. That's all I'm saying. Just trying to keep the thread on topic. No need to be insulting.

Was making an observation, it was hardly an insult. Not that you are this thin skinned, though.

I can however understand not wanting a shot like this though, I mean...it kind of looks like it would be used in a poltical action type ad against pollution, or promoting the EPA or something.

Have you shot any waterscapes in the last few weeks or so?
 
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CarlTN said:
jrista said:
CarlTN said:
jrista said:
hovland said:
North Sea, UK sector

9Z5A5353.jpg

Sigma 150-500, at 500mm

Interesting photo. Like the watersports stuff, however, I think it would be best if we could keep the industry off this thread. It was really meant to be waterscapes...landscape photos that are primarily about the water in them, like brooks and creeks and cascades and waterfalls, rivers & lakes with mountain or landscape backdrops, coastlines (lighthouses, docks, and piers are ok), etc.

I was really looking for the artistic side of watery landscapes, not sports and oil rigs. I don't mean to be callous, but there are so many beautiful photos that you guys could be posting, like the one just posted by ckwalker near Galveston, TX. THAT is what this thread is supposed to be about! :P

Seems as if you like being negative. Maybe that is keeping people from posting waterscapes in your thread? I'd never post one of mine here, I know it wouldn't be up to your standards!

It isn't a matter of standards, it's a matter of subject. Oil rigs aren't a waterscape. Windsurfers aren't waterscapes. That's all I'm saying. Just trying to keep the thread on topic. No need to be insulting.

Was making an observation, it was hardly an insult. Not that you are this thin skinned, though.

I can however understand not wanting a shot like this though, I mean...it kind of looks like it would be used in a poltical action type ad against pollution, or promoting the EPA or something.

Have you shot any waterscapes in the last few weeks or so?

Colorado is still in the heart of winter. Not much in the way of open water these days. I've been focusing my photographer efforts on the deep night sky, so I'm up all night and asleep during the day anyway. A lot of our mountain roads are still in poor shape from the terrible rains we had last Sept, and snows are still quite heavy up there (feet), so I don't venture into the mountains much for any kind of landscape photography these days...probably won't until the snow has melted.
 
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CarlTN said:
jrista said:
CarlTN said:
jrista said:
hovland said:
North Sea, UK sector

9Z5A5353.jpg

Sigma 150-500, at 500mm

Interesting photo. Like the watersports stuff, however, I think it would be best if we could keep the industry off this thread. It was really meant to be waterscapes...landscape photos that are primarily about the water in them, like brooks and creeks and cascades and waterfalls, rivers & lakes with mountain or landscape backdrops, coastlines (lighthouses, docks, and piers are ok), etc.

I was really looking for the artistic side of watery landscapes, not sports and oil rigs. I don't mean to be callous, but there are so many beautiful photos that you guys could be posting, like the one just posted by ckwalker near Galveston, TX. THAT is what this thread is supposed to be about! :P

Seems as if you like being negative. Maybe that is keeping people from posting waterscapes in your thread? I'd never post one of mine here, I know it wouldn't be up to your standards!

It isn't a matter of standards, it's a matter of subject. Oil rigs aren't a waterscape. Windsurfers aren't waterscapes. That's all I'm saying. Just trying to keep the thread on topic. No need to be insulting.

Was making an observation, it was hardly an insult. Not that you are this thin skinned, though.

I can however understand not wanting a shot like this though, I mean...it kind of looks like it would be used in a poltical action type ad against pollution, or promoting the EPA or something.

Have you shot any waterscapes in the last few weeks or so?
I think some have very narrow definitions of what a Landscape, Waterscape, Nature photograph etc. is. To me the picture in question definitely falls into the Waterscape category and I find the thread more interesting to follow, because I don´t just get water horizons with rising or falling suns. Where are the limits to what is acceptable? People? A rowing boat? Boat, but without engine? A building? ...

According to Webster (biggest dictionary I know), Waterscape is defined as "A picture or view of the sea or other body of water" and the picture in question is clearly "a picture or view of the sea" ...
 
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jrista said:
Colorado is still in the heart of winter. Not much in the way of open water these days. I've been focusing my photographer efforts on the deep night sky, so I'm up all night and asleep during the day anyway. A lot of our mountain roads are still in poor shape from the terrible rains we had last Sept, and snows are still quite heavy up there (feet), so I don't venture into the mountains much for any kind of landscape photography these days...probably won't until the snow has melted.

Ah, understandable.
 
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Eldar said:
I think some have very narrow definitions of what a Landscape, Waterscape, Nature photograph etc. is. To me the picture in question definitely falls into the Waterscape category and I find the thread more interesting to follow, because I don´t just get water horizons with rising or falling suns. Where are the limits to what is acceptable? People? A rowing boat? Boat, but without engine? A building? ...

According to Webster (biggest dictionary I know), Waterscape is defined as "A picture or view of the sea or other body of water" and the picture in question is clearly "a picture or view of the sea" ...

You make a good point, but I hate to side with Jrista...he's the thread initiator, and has stated what he felt should be in it. That said, he is hard to please, so I don't try. Also..."waterscape"...itself sounds like there shouldn't be people in it, at least not as major elements. But I did enjoy seeing the surfing pictures too.

Have a look at the images over the first few pages of the thread, and interpret that how you will.

I think you should start your own thread for the type of waterscapes you'd like to see shared. Most of the time when I start a thread, I get the haters...but you might fare better than me (which is probably not difficult to do!)

I think I'll share an image in the "6D" thread, because the photo snobs don't look in it as much!
 
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Eldar said:
I think some have very narrow definitions of what a Landscape, Waterscape, Nature photograph etc. is. To me the picture in question definitely falls into the Waterscape category and I find the thread more interesting to follow, because I don´t just get water horizons with rising or falling suns. Where are the limits to what is acceptable? People? A rowing boat? Boat, but without engine? A building? ...

According to Webster (biggest dictionary I know), Waterscape is defined as "A picture or view of the sea or other body of water" and the picture in question is clearly "a picture or view of the sea" ...

Technically speaking, you can define anything to be as broad or narrow as you want it to be. According to webster's definition, they don't seem to include waterscapes that aren't "bodies" of water...ocean, sea, lake. Rivers, creeks, brooks, waterfalls, etc. are generally not considered "bodies" of water.

I truly do not believe I am being narrow in my definition here. The image I recently commented about is clearly "industry" to me, industry that just so happens to be on a body of water. That isn't a water SCAPE to me...SCAPE, like a landscape. I've been a nature photographer for a long time. I've participated in photography sites like DeviantArt for years, and managed groups there. I've NEVER encountered a definition of "waterscape" that included industry or sports as the primary subject.

I'm happy with anything where the water is the primary subject. If there are row boats or bridges or background city or what have you, as long as it's part of an artistic landscape scene where water is the primary subject, I have no problem with it. I'm not being exceptionally picky here...however the industry and images that were primarily watersports really don't fit the bill, IMHO.

Personally, I actually like industrial photos. Some people are exceptionally good at them, and they have their own aesthetic appeal. I just think that, and watersports, should get their own threads. ;)
 
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hovland said:
North Sea, UK sector

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This is my domain ... I make a lot of images of offshore rigs, unfortunately our company policy does not permit me to post images of our rigs without prior written approval from our Marketing & Business Development department (who in turn will process the approval thorough the CEO' office), so I just don't bother going through all that hassle ... I really like offshore/onshore rigs, they are just amazing, one has to spend a day on one of those rigs to appreciate the kind of hard work the crew put in daily to let us live our comfortable lives in this electronic world.
 
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CarlTN said:
Most of the time when I start a thread, I get the haters...
Hi Carl, if I'm not wrong, didn't I once say that your writing style "sounds" like you are an angry dude, so that could attract haters ;D ... hey I'm just kidding, you & jrista are some of the few people I follow on CR ... and I say that with much respect.
 
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Hi folks.
I follow several people on here, sometimes I disagree with an opinion, I'm sure people disagree with my opinion but life is too damn short to hate anyone for a post on a web site. I really like the mostly good nature of the participants here, and it appears even when two people seem to be at loggerheads on one topic they can praise each other for a nice photo on another topic. Almost surreal!
I sometimes wonder if people have something against me, I seem to post then no one replies to the subject after me, oh well never mind.

Cheers Graham.

Rienzphotoz said:
CarlTN said:
Most of the time when I start a thread, I get the haters...
Hi Carl, if I'm not wrong, didn't I once say that your writing style "sounds" like you are an angry dude, so that could attract haters ;D ... hey I'm just kidding, you & jrista are some of the few people I follow on CR ... and I say that with much respect.
 
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Valvebounce said:
I sometimes wonder if people have something against me, I seem to post then no one replies to the subject after me, oh well never mind.

Cheers Graham.
I know what you mean, sometimes I post a comment or start a thread but no one gives a $hit, sometimes that can be more embarrassing then "losing" an argument ;D
 
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Just so everyone is clear. I'm not trying to say any of the watersports or industry images were bad. I just started this thread with a certain idea in mind...to see beautiful watery landscapes. Tom's recent post is the perfect exemplar of the kind of beauty I am hoping to see whenever I visit this thread. Just stunning, serene, colorful, rippling beauty like that...its becoming so rare.

Every time I leave my house, it's industry. Cars, trucks, trains, planes, motorcycles, boats, noise, exhaust, smog, bleh. When I visit the nearby "nature reserves", the thing that is most common now is watersports. I the water aint frozen, someone is out there making a wake with their industrial floating vehicle. You've got your speed boats and luxury boats and your jetskis. You've got people blaring loud music, waterskiing and parasailing, then you have the jackasses on the jetskis who now regularly violate the no wake zones in the wetlands, spitting out wake after wake and tossing up massive amounts of spray that scare off all the birds that are supposed to be protected. Even the fishermen have become a menace...tangled fishing line everywhere, bobbles and loose hooks. I've seen too many dead birds with either a fishing hook in a wing or their throat, or tangled in fishing line.

I just wanted a place where people could share their images of natures amazing liquid beauty, so when I can't get out into the mountains myself, see it for myself, and photograph it for myself, I could come somewhere and see that kind of beauty without being bombarded with industry and sports. I think someone should start threads for both of those, however, as they have their own intrigue and beauty. There are some amazing photos of industry, and it's certainly a valid form of art, and some people are exceptionally talented at bringing out the detail and shapes and form of industrial complexes. I love seeing that, but I just think it's different than a waterscape (water landscape.)

Anyway, Tom, thanks for revitalizing the thread with your images! They are truly stunning! Makes me want to go out and get a 24-70 right now, those images are just so amazing! The soft tone, soft colors, soft gradients...exquisite!
 
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Rienzphotoz said:
CarlTN said:
Most of the time when I start a thread, I get the haters...
Hi Carl, if I'm not wrong, didn't I once say that your writing style "sounds" like you are an angry dude, so that could attract haters ;D ... hey I'm just kidding, you & jrista are some of the few people I follow on CR ... and I say that with much respect.

I appreciate your kind words and respect. I suppose I am sort of an angry dude...
 
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