Obviously it is not filming in p24 that has kept video clips of my cat chasing a laser pointer from winning an Oscar!
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Why has Canon omitted 24p 4K recording in their new cameras such as the EOS M6 Mark II, EOS 90D and EOS RP?
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This is a big issue for anyone who edits footage from more than one camera. They cannot use footage from this camera in a 24p timeline because 30p looks horrible in a 24p timeline, even if you convert the frame rate. 24p converts better to 30p than the other way around.
Anyway, this just looks more like Canon's habit of random withholding of features. Making your footage compatible from all of your cameras should be a no-brainer, and the only thing needed is that they offer compatible frame rates. They don't all need to offer the highest frame rates, but they should be compatible.
Anyway, this just looks more like Canon's habit of random withholding of features. Making your footage compatible from all of your cameras should be a no-brainer, and the only thing needed is that they offer compatible frame rates. They don't all need to offer the highest frame rates, but they should be compatible.
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It’s hilarious how these nimwits in this thread bemoaning the lack of p24 on these new cameras think their whining and complaining matters.
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I'm mostly just curious to see how far up the model line up they remove it from new models. I expect them to remove it all the way up through their DSLR/MILC line in response to their Cinema camera sales dropping off a cliff.
No it doesn't. Repeating the same lie over and over again isn't going to make it true.
Don't worry, I'm sure they'll be along shortly to point out all their posts from the past 10 years bemoaning the fact that Canon is needlessly including p24 in a camera where it's not necessary.
So "hilarious" that you have to defend Canon and reply to every one. If it didn't matter you'd just leave it alone. Your actions speak louder than words.
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And HERE is the final word on the random withholding of 24p from the M6 mkII and the 90D: https://www.eoshd.com/2019/08/nope-...d-and-eos-m6-ii-to-save-h-264-licensing-fees/
PS ... The M6 mk I has 24p frame rate. So all this talk about fees and costs is pure hogwash. As mentioned in the article, they are trying to push customers to higher priced products, but they may just push customers to a different brand in the long run.
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I wouldn’t say any article from that site is the final word on anything. He’s a very angry individual, like a man with a fork in a world of soup.
He banned me from the site around the 80D launch when I pointed out that publishing his forum users real names and details to make fun of those who disagreed with him was not only in bad taste but also in breach of GPDR data rules.
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But what if Canon thinks that the typical user of the camera has no interest in that frame rate? They may have gotten rid of it to free up space in the bios or for some other reason. Remember, they have access to the market research data and user buying data, we do not. Plus, we forum users do not represent the typical consumer.
On a personal level, I can say that I would like to have p24 included, just in case I might want to use it, even though I probably would not. I don't shoot a lot of video, just short clips now and then. It will never become movie footage and will only be seen on a computer or phone screen. I don't have proof to this, but I believe that this would be true for the typical user. Odds are, their short video clips will be seen on YouTube and Facebook, both of which compress the h**l out of the video, and compressed like that it really does not matter how you shot it.
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Loswr
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I wasn’t aware that Canon published data on their cinema EOS sales. Can you share the source for your information on that topic?
I do have a tendency to reply to posts that are obviously inane. Many of yours seem to fall into that category, such as the ascription of a malicious motive for the removal of a feature, or predictions of dire consequences resulting from that removal. If someone continually posted that the earth is flat, I’d respond to that as well.
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Yes, I would gladly trade a C200 for a 90D/M6II if only they had 24p.
Because 4K60p in RAW is almost exactly the same as 4K30p 8-bit 4:2:0
After all who needs useless features like built NDs and XLRs.
Who cares about a video camera handling like a video camera.
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justaCanonuser
Grab your camera, go out and shoot!
I knew that Magic Lantern would be covered in the first comments coming up hereThey've gotta leave something for Magic Lantern to do, don't they?
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justaCanonuser
Grab your camera, go out and shoot!
Cinematic is Kodak's Motion Picture film, of course 24 frames/s. Quentin Tarantino e.g. still prefers film. Here is a list of movies that were recently shot on film:
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Architect1776
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The ONLY reason that 24p even exists, if you know history, was NOT better quality, it is actually poor quality, but to use less film which cost money. 30p is far superior and would have been preferred if money had not been the deciding factor.
Also rolling shutter is less of an issue with 30p so again a superior video.
Finally 24p is just another snob way of bashing Canon for producing a superior product. In the R they added it just so snobs could say they have it as they get busy shooting rolling shutter and inferior videos.
Just a bit of history.
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I've heard rumors that Canon has a 501(c)(3) patent in the works. 24Greedy Canon putting profits above people. I wish they would go out of business and let some other benevolent company take over.
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Please correct me if I am wrong, but the M6 and 90D are shooting 2.8K and then upsampling to 4K. So is it really 4K or is this shitty marketing?
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