Armando Ferreira: Testing out the NEW Canon EOS R5 in a real world production environment.

[navastronia]

You are responding to a video post where a videographer is using the cam exactly in the way that you are saying cannot be done...

 

[dtaylor]

I would be curious to see that! I don't think I've seen a test yet of whether the R5 overheats less when using an external recorder.

Generally speaking external recorders reduce heat generation in camera and enable longer shoots. At this point the degree to which an external recorder would help with an R5 or an R6 is unknown. Some of the processing and file I/O gets moved off to the recorder which has to help. But there's still sensor readout and because the video is oversampled, some significant DIGIC processing to prepare the signal sent over HDMI. (Which is limited to 4k 60p, so on the R5 if you want 8k you have to deal with the thermal issues.)

I believe the Ninja V is, or will shortly be, compatible. I'm looking forward to seeing someone test this.

 

[mppix]

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Exactly, some make it work

 

[mppix]

Generally speaking external recorders reduce heat generation in camera and enable longer shoots. At this point the degree to which an external recorder would help with an R5 or an R6 is unknown. Some of the processing and file I/O gets moved off to the recorder which has to help. But there's still sensor readout and because the video is oversampled, some significant DIGIC processing to prepare the signal sent over HDMI. (Which is limited to 4k 60p, so on the R5 if you want 8k you have to deal with the thermal issues.)

I believe the Ninja V is, or will shortly be, compatible. I'm looking forward to seeing someone test this.

So true. HDMI2.1 could have helped bypass some of the overheating.

 

[Trout Bum]

This is funny. I hope it was meant as a joke. My old Canon F1 "just works", too.

Yes, and I'm sure it just works as well as the R5/6

 

[Bert63]

So far, I feel like I am running a gauntlet and am being beaten to death by reviews of R5 video capabilities. For the sake of logic and symmetry won't somebody please review this camera for a photographer, not a videographer.

Yes - more like this please.

The video whatever is nice (but I really don't care) but we need a photographer's perspective.

 

[Pooshoes]

If people want to use it for production they'll get 2 and swap them or get an active cooling system. It won't be long till the hacks come out if the images are fantastic.

 

[jam05]

Well the one thing it proved to me is that content is king, I'd have enjoyed that dialogue filmed in 1080, just want to go and watch that film again now! ( It did look real good as well though )

me too. After watching it. I immediately searched through my streaming content. Lol

 

[jam05]

This:

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Some people know how to do what it takes. Hey, simple, give me a fan.

 

[cornieleous]

Canon certainly kept stuff out to sell an other camera in a few years

So tired.

 

[cornieleous]

That’s why I’ve been shooting with Sony for 6 years. They stick their latest tech even in their cheaper cameras. Look at the Zv1 or a6400 almost same video and AF capabilities as the bigger brothers.

The 6D had a better sensor than the 5D3 in 2013. This cripple hammer nonsense is nothing but emotion from fools who want everything for nothing and compare spec sheets, not how a system comes together in the field. For many, Canon has always had reliable and impressive SYSTEMS and ignored being the hottest spec sheet. Gets the job done without being loud and mouthy about it.

Brand religion is truly lame and lacks critical thinking. Use what you use and stop babbling about it. Truly, No. One. Cares.

 

[NorskHest]

At this point it looks like Canon could release an R5c with a fan, double the price, and people would still love it and buy it

Then I would consider buying one

 

[NorskHest]

Hahahaha it looks like they are holding some sort of blue ice pack on the camera and they are using a leaf blower. Hahahaha. I’ll stick with my c200 and 1dc’s

 

[bhf3737]

So far, I feel like I am running a gauntlet and am being beaten to death by reviews of R5 video capabilities. For the sake of logic and symmetry won't somebody please review this camera for a photographer, not a videographer.

No worry at all. So called reviews so far are like blind men examining an elephant in the room and expressing their own opinions! I'd rather wait for the camera to rent it and see how it fits to my shooting subjects and style.

 

[CaMeRa QuEsT]

Some people know how to do what it takes. Hey, simple, give me a fan.

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[fingerstein]

This is not a review. This is product placement.

 

[adigoks]

For anyone whose going to make R5 as video camera. a friendly reminder that NVIDIA didnt support 4:2:2 decoding natively on its GPU.
so an external recorder is a must for recording 10 bit 4:2:2.

nvenc-nvdec decoding support table

if you're not using external recorder you gotta use proxy for editing.
if you didnt want to use proxy its going to be like this.

 

[Twinix]

Personally, I cannot wait for the moment when Canon sells an RF C100 with a fan so we can finally get over this wannabe cinematographer stuff.

Me too, but I dont think they will need to put in a fan for 4K 50p 10bit. If a fan has to kick in between takes etc I don’t think it will matter that much tho.

 

[bellorusso]

This is not an R5 test but a shameless self promotion piece of... The tittle is 100% misleading.

 

[Starting out EOS R]

I do enjoy Armondo's videos and generally he seems quite balanced. I did enjoy this video but it told me absolutely nothing about the R5 apart from it can be used with some ridiculous lenses and produce some pretty good video which, we already knew.
I'm sure he will produce more videos focusing on the actual camera performance in the not too distant future. Meanwhile Jarad Polins video on the AF is worth a watch and is a massive step up from the R.

Roll on in a week when the R5 should be delivered.