Canon officially announces the Canon EOS R7, Canon EOS R10 and two new RF-S lenses
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R10 seems like a pretty great "entry level" camera although it is a bit higher in price than the current entry level DSLR from Canon (also seems to be much more capable than many entry level cameras).
The R7 is very interesting....seems like a fantastic mirrorless version of the 90D and the autofocus is going to be fantastic for those that are moving from the DSLR apsc cameras. The thing I'm most impressed with is the 15 fps mechanical shutter....than is better than nearly any apsc camera out there. The 30 fps electronic shutter would be about as useful as the 20 fps on the R5....I never use it since any shots I want that speed for you see issues with the slowness of getting the data off the sensor (warping of wings mostly for me). I guess it is fun for things that aren't moving much but I don't usually want that many shots of those types of things (others may find it useful). The new interface on the back looks interesting and it seems now that every canon camera is going to have different way of interacting with the buttons and wheels....not great for switching between cameras but since I switch between brands on the same shoot that is not too big a deal for me.
For both cameras, the EVF is pretty low end (I thought they would put a better one on the R7 at least).
It really would have been interesting if Canon had come out with the first APSC stacked sensor camera (at a significantly higher price) but I guess they don't see a market for that kind of camera at this point in time and want to fairly quickly get a full set of mirrorless R cameras on the market so they can eventually stop producing DSLRs
If that R7 works as expected I will likely be suggesting that camera for many people who are looking for a camera for birding at a "reasonable" price.
The R7 is very interesting....seems like a fantastic mirrorless version of the 90D and the autofocus is going to be fantastic for those that are moving from the DSLR apsc cameras. The thing I'm most impressed with is the 15 fps mechanical shutter....than is better than nearly any apsc camera out there. The 30 fps electronic shutter would be about as useful as the 20 fps on the R5....I never use it since any shots I want that speed for you see issues with the slowness of getting the data off the sensor (warping of wings mostly for me). I guess it is fun for things that aren't moving much but I don't usually want that many shots of those types of things (others may find it useful). The new interface on the back looks interesting and it seems now that every canon camera is going to have different way of interacting with the buttons and wheels....not great for switching between cameras but since I switch between brands on the same shoot that is not too big a deal for me.
For both cameras, the EVF is pretty low end (I thought they would put a better one on the R7 at least).
It really would have been interesting if Canon had come out with the first APSC stacked sensor camera (at a significantly higher price) but I guess they don't see a market for that kind of camera at this point in time and want to fairly quickly get a full set of mirrorless R cameras on the market so they can eventually stop producing DSLRs
If that R7 works as expected I will likely be suggesting that camera for many people who are looking for a camera for birding at a "reasonable" price.
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So the press release says "All products will be available in late 2022."....that seems like a long wait for something announced and accepting pre-orders today. Do Canon press releases normally underestimate the availability date? Looking at the R5, it looks like it was announced on July 9th and I got my shipping notice on July 29th. Just anxious to get the R7 as my backup/special situation camera 
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I thought the R10 would be the new 90D, and the R7 would be the 7D Mk II replacement, but it appears they are now using the R7 as a replacement for the 90D (even though Canon is saying it's not a replacement for the 90D) and the R10 is the replacement for the Rebel/850D line. I can understand how many will be disappointed by this. I agree with your point about the new dial being tested on the R10...that would have been more appropriate.
The video time unlocking very well might not happen for the R5/R6, but I think (and this is strictly an educated guess) it should at least be possible for FHD 30 FPS on the FF sensor.
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Pre-ordered mine today and Wex told me shipping would be in around 4 weeks.So the press release says "All products will be available in late 2022."....that seems like a long wait for something announced and accepting pre-orders today. Do Canon press releases normally underestimate the availability date? Looking at the R5, it looks like it was announced on July 9th and I got my shipping notice on July 29th. Just anxious to get the R7 as my backup/special situation camera
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I think it's pretty artificial but not entirely. A lot of the nifty features in the R5 and now the R7 are in firmware. Take, for example, the eye detects. To do that requires an image taken of the sensor but the actual detection is an algorithm in firmware. Firmware development is a non-recurring expense (NRE) but where is that expense assigned? Maybe the R5 is so expensive because Canon is trying to recoup the NRE for all of the nifty firmware features. The better EVF and FF sensor are recurring expenses and my guess is that the difference in cost between the R5 and R7 EVF and sensor is fairly small.
Does that make sense?
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Should the Length/Width/Depth columns actually be Width, Height and Depth? Also what is the depth of the body alone, without the grip?
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Actually there really isn’t much the RP can’t do. Having used one alongside 5DS cameras for a year I believe there’s only two areas where it is possibly lacking. One is frame rate in Servo AF, which may be valid to some people, and the second is the older design off chip ADC, which is probably not valid to the the vast majority of users.
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Just a thought re ergonomics. I am not shooting much lately, handed over the studio to my wife. But - I do remember my first few days with R5 compared to few years with 5D IV - I have simply found the joystick being too far top/left and had to stretch my thumb to reach it. Maybe that's the reason, why Canon has moved the wheel towards the joystick on the R7, so that you don't need to move your thumb up and down so much? Curious, how this experiment will end-up.
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