5D Mark III, 1D Mark V & 1Ds Mark IV Tidbits

[kubelik]

There is no fixed ratio between MP and noise FFS, or between pixel density and noise either. You can't extrapolate 3 and 4 year old sensors. *************************REMOVED*******************************

I get that liberace isn't famous for being subtle ... but let's keep things civil, yeah?

 

[macfly]

It's seems funny to me that people who'll never want or buy a 1Ds have the desire to dicate what it should be?

IMHO it should be ground breakingly, achingly brilliant. It should blow everything else away in every aspect of it's ability and performance, price be dammed. You don't buy a Ferrari to commute, and you don't need a 1Ds to play.

I'm also a proud tourist - unfocused, brilliant response!

 

[Ivar]

If a camera has N megapixels, the camera with the same technology but N + X megapixels is NEVER worse than the camera with N megapixels; it can only be better. Noise, detail, everything related to IQ.

It is the size of sensor which matters.

 

[DEngle]

... It is the size of sensor which matters.

100% correct. It's physics.

 

[Cannon Man]

The whole idea behind a 1ds is to have all the best features available.. Made for pros that need them. There seems to be a lot of people commenting what the 1ds should be like and most the comments seem to be around hating the camera being expensive and wanting the same features on a 2000$ camera. I dont get it.

The 5d mark II serves a good purpose.. It is a great camera for little money for semi- pros and also for pros that dont need or want the better functions and the built quality that the 1d series offers or want a more lightweight camera.

It is what it is... Deal with it, please.

The 1d is made for working professionals who want the best out of photography no matter what it costs.
For all i care the new 1Ds should cost 12 000$ to be a more separated from the 5d but thats Canon's call to make.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Just remember, if a FF sensor had the same photosite size as a Canon 7d it would have about 46 mp.

Those who like the 10.4 mp S95/ G12 cameras should realize that a FF sensor with that photosite density would have about 209 million photosites!

40 mp seems low by comparison.

 

[Edwin Herdman]

I want to see the world through the eyes of a tourist, where everything is new and unusual. How can a good photographer be anything but a tourist?

You could be a resident. Hey, it works for me!

 

[april]

The whole idea behind a 1ds is to have all the best features available.. Made for pros that need them. There seems to be a lot of people commenting what the 1ds should be like and most the comments seem to be around hating the camera being expensive and wanting the same features on a 2000$ camera. I dont get it.

The 5d mark II serves a good purpose.. It is a great camera for little money for semi- pros and also for pros that dont need or want the better functions and the built quality that the 1d series offers or want a more lightweight camera.

It is what it is... Deal with it, please.

The 1d is made for working professionals who want the best out of photography no matter what it costs.
For all i care the new 1Ds should cost 12 000$ to be a more separated from the 5d but thats Canon's call to make.

if a 1d camera takes a lot of time,effort and resource for canon to develop & manufacture why should they aim to sell it to the working pros? the population of rookies like me is a lot more than pros so they should aim to sell to us for them get paid for all the hard works......

 

[TimeLapseNinja]

I agree the more MP the better! Did you know imax is something around 68mp! I need that for time-lapse so can convert a film I want to shoot into true imax res. Cheers!

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Why would anyone want 36MP? It's not a huge increase in terms of resolution, however the files are larger, meaning that there's less of them per GB, they take proportionatly longer to transfer to the PC longer to open & to apply PP. On top of that noise is generally worse, and with that dynamic range takes a hit too. Lens flaws are made even worse, processing in camera takes longer.

For me 25MP with better dynamic range (lower noise), a digic V processor with its greater power used to give more fps (3.9 just isn't quick enough).
If you need more MP then either buy a medium format (your work will obviously fund this) or if it's landscape the stitch two images together to acheive the same!

Sounds like someone urgently needs to consider upgrading their computer system, or at least parts of it.

I on the other hand want the highest mp count they can possibly cram into the beast, 65mp? Bring it on!

Amazing! Only the other day you were decrying the noise & dynamic range of your current camera, and now you've done a complete 180 turn and decided that neither actually matter - nor image quality, all you want is high MP! Make your mind up because you can't have both!

As for my PC it's quad core 8GB running windows 7 I think it's powerful enough, the laptop is a Lenovo W700 again more than powerful enough.

Clearly you're an amature snapper who processes just a few images at a time for those of us needing to process a couple of hundred at a go, twice the file size makes a huge difference to the time it takes, and that's regardless of computer power.
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[J. McCabe]

Sounds like someone urgently needs to consider upgrading their computer system, or at least parts of it.

I on the other hand want the highest mp count they can possibly cram into the beast, 65mp? Bring it on!

You want more MP, others don't.

More MP is good for two things - larger prints, and tighter crops. Some people need neither.

 

[Cannon Man]

When i said made for working pros i meant that it is developed the most demanding and top level photographers in mind. So in a way it is made for pros but of course they want to sell it to everyone who wants the features in their camera. I bought a 1Ds III long before i started taking photos as a full time job.

Sure the 1D cameras take a lot of money,effort to make but quess what, firstly they do sell a lot of 1D cameras around the world, AND all the tecnology in the cheaper cameras are in a way downgraded versions of a 1D because non of them require the level of presision or quality and they have the tecnology and the knowledge because they have been designing top level cameras like the 1D for years and they will keep doing just that.

if a 1d camera takes a lot of time,effort and resource for canon to develop & manufacture why should they aim to sell it to the working pros? the population of rookies like me is a lot more than pros so they should aim to sell to us for them get paid for all the hard works......

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Sounds like someone urgently needs to consider upgrading their computer system, or at least parts of it.

I on the other hand want the highest mp count they can possibly cram into the beast, 65mp? Bring it on!

You want more MP, others don't.

More MP is good for two things - larger prints, and tighter crops. Some people need neither.

Everyone has their needs. Some want higher ISO, some want Lower ISO, same for resolution.

There are plenty of choices with large pixels at low counts, but few 35mm cameras with 30+ mp, so having a choice is good.

I'd vote for more MP with my pocketbook.