A Bit of EOS 7D Replacement Info [CR2]

[Canon Rumors]

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<p><strong>*UPDATE*

</strong>We’ve been told that the omission of the wifi in the 7D replacement is due to how the body is designed. The durable full metal body would make wifi transmission unreliable at best. The camera will also not have a touch screen like the EOS 70D, as Canon has opted for a much more durable solution covering the LCD.</p>
<p><strong>Original Post</strong>

There hasn’t been a lot in the way of full specifications for the replacement to the EOS 7D that we expect to be announced in September of this year. We’ve heard it will come around September 5, depending where you are on the planet.</p>
<p>A good source tells us that the new camera will have EOS-1 build quality, which we expected. The camera will be specced extremely well, but will be missing one feature. It won’t have built-in wifi. This tells me it’ll be a higher megapixel camera (24mp+?) and shoot at a very high frame rate.</p>
<p><em>More to come….</em></p>
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[Lightmaster]

what has wifi to do with higher megapixels and framerate?

give it 802.11ac.

 

[chrysoberyl]

Good - I have yet to use the wifi on my 6D, and don't intend to.

 

[Khalai]

what has wifi to do with higher megapixels and framerate?

give it 802.11ac.

If WiFi means polycarbonate top plate like 6D, they probably sacrificed it for the sake of ultimate build. Also, if you would ever need WiFi, you can always buy Canon WiFi module (for extraorbitant price that is ).

 

[Lee Jay]

No built in WiFi? That kills it. It's utterly and totally useless. Heck, I might as well use film!

Not really. But wifi would have been nice to fiddle with for me, at times, especially when I have it attached to my telescope.

Now, if it's missing a direct print button, then I'm out for sure.

 

[Lee Jay]

That will send the price north and won't be quite the same deal that the 7D was originally. That's bound to upset some who will then need to look at the 70D or 80D as their upgrade from the 7D.

Maybe the thing to do is think of the 7DII as the "upgrade" or "replacement" for the 1D4 (non-FF sensor in a pro body.)

1D build quality doesn't mean a 1D body. I'd argue that the 7D has near 1D build quality already.

 

[Lightmaster]

what has wifi to do with higher megapixels and framerate?

give it 802.11ac.

If WiFi means polycarbonate top plate like 6D, they probably sacrificed it for the sake of ultimate build. Also, if you would ever need WiFi, you can always buy Canon WiFi module (for extraorbitant price that is ).

yes.. but that has nothing to do with MP and framerate as i wrote.

 

[unfocused]

Can someone explain something about wifi?

I have read that build quality (metal body?) precludes incorporating wifi. Yet, the wifi card manufacturers say their product works with the 5DIII in its SD slot. If that's the case, then why would camera manufacturers be unable to design a camera body that doesn't have the ability to use wifi. It seems they should be able to simply shift the wifi portion to another part of the body.

 

[mackguyver]

Now, if it's missing a direct print button, then I'm out for sure.

My thoughts exactly ;D

Can someone explain something about wifi?

I have read that build quality (metal body?) precludes incorporating wifi. Yet, the wifi card manufacturers say their product works with the 5DIII in its SD slot. If that's the case, then why would camera manufacturers be unable to design a camera body that doesn't have the ability to use wifi. It seems they should be able to simply shift the wifi portion to another part of the body.

I know that WiFi was supposedly excluded from the 1D X because of the requirements of military users. I could see this being the case here as well, assuming the latter is true.

 

[JimKarczewski]

I was pissed off when the 6D came out with WiFi and GPS after buying the 1Dx.. Asking Chuck Westfall about this he said it's because the body of the 6D has a plastic top, where as the 1Dx is fully magnesium and transmission wouldn't work with it.

That being said, there is that big port on the side where wifi plugs in (along with GPS) why not make that an Antenna port? So if you want to use Wifi you just plug in the Antenna and not have to worry about it being built and not being able to get far due to the magnesium body.

That tells me it will be a full 1D type of body though, one piece magnesium, which will be nice..

 

[Hardwire]

Can someone explain something about wifi?

I have read that build quality (metal body?) precludes incorporating wifi. Yet, the wifi card manufacturers say their product works with the 5DIII in its SD slot. If that's the case, then why would camera manufacturers be unable to design a camera body that doesn't have the ability to use wifi. It seems they should be able to simply shift the wifi portion to another part of the body.

Honestly no reason at all, coming from a career in the IT world before I have worked on many laptops at board level and most have the wifi "chips" in a central location and the antenna is located elsewhere on the board for best performance. This is also the case as some of you may recall with the iphone and the issues they had with the metal body and wifi/3g when you covered a particular part of the phone body with your fingers etc.

So in reply, they could well design a metal body for the camera and pipe via a cable to an antenna external to the metal shell for best reception purposes....and this does not mean it has to remain an internal antenna...

 

[schmidtfilme]

What I really wish for in this camera is this so called Hybrid Viewfinder. Because at the moment I have to use for video shooting a Zacuto Z-Finder. The Z-Finder is a fine product don't get me wrong but it is not really comfortable to run around with.

So basically I want a OLED or comparable viewfinder when shooting video.

The another spec I like improved is a much higher dynamic range. Basically like getting HDR without having to shoot 3 pictures. I care only very little about high ISO. I care very much about high DR.

my 2 cents

 

[East Wind Photography]

There goes the price point then. Early on everyone was expecting about a 2000.00 price point but lately with the talk of 1Dx type features and now the removal of Wifi, this body will likely be in 4000.00 range and Knowing Canon, I really expect it to be closer to 5000 or 6000.

Like another person pointed out, this will likely force a lot of people back down to the 70D.

No doubt however, this one will be an excellent model and look forward to depleting my account and any hope of getting that new Dodge Hellcat.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Having recently bought a 12mp G1X with Wi-Fi, its a klutz. Canon should leave off Wi-Fi until they can get it right.

Canon Wi-Fi requires that the Canon site be up and working just to do a direct transfer to your computer. Their iMAGE site has been repeatedly down, last weekend until Thursday I was not able to use my Wi-?Fi to transfer images. It took me until Friday to get it to work again, I had to re-register with the site because they changed the login, then erase all my wifi settings from the camera, then reload the 230 MB files and go thru the setup process again, which is slow and goofy. Now its working again, but for how long??

In the meantime, I bought a eye-Fi card and put it in my 5D3. Easy setup, and it works great. Then I popped it in my 1GX just to see what happens, and it works with no setup to card or camera.

I'd much prefer it to the Goofy Canon WiFi which is unreliable.

 

[Lee Jay]

There goes the price point then. Early on everyone was expecting about a 2000.00 price point but lately with the talk of 1Dx type features and now the removal of Wifi, this body will likely be in 4000.00 range and Knowing Canon, I really expect it to be closer to 5000 or 6000.

I seriously doubt it. $2,500 tops is my guess, and I expect to be able to buy it for under $2,000 at some point next year.

But, we'll see.

 

[Lee Jay]

Having recently bought a 12mp G1X with Wi-Fi, its a klutz. Canon should leave off Wi-Fi until they can get it right.

Canon Wi-Fi requires that the Canon site be up and working just to do a direct transfer to your computer. Their iMAGE site has been repeatedly down, last weekend until Thursday I was not able to use my Wi-?Fi to transfer images. It took me until Friday to get it to work again, I had to re-register with the site because they changed the login, then erase all my wifi settings from the camera, then reload the 230 MB files and go thru the setup process again, which is slow and goofy. Now its working again, but for how long??

In the meantime, I bought a eye-Fi card and put it in my 5D3. Easy setup, and it works great. Then I popped it in my 1GX just to see what happens, and it works with no setup to card or camera.

I'd much prefer it to the Goofy Canon WiFi which is unreliable.

Can you use live view and control the camera with an eye-Fi? I'd never use wifi for downloading, but I would occasionally use it for remote camera control.

 

[Stu_bert]

what has wifi to do with higher megapixels and framerate?

give it 802.11ac.

If WiFi means polycarbonate top plate like 6D, they probably sacrificed it for the sake of ultimate build. Also, if you would ever need WiFi, you can always buy Canon WiFi module (for extraorbitant price that is ).

yes.. but that has nothing to do with MP and framerate as i wrote.

No it only does indirectly. Pro body and therefore Pro spec in terms of MP and frame rate. Downside of pro spec (other than price)? No build in wifi...

 

[wtlloyd]

6D wifi is weak and slow. Drops out, range not much more than 10' before disconnect.

I expect to try the TP Link TL-MR3040 soon to see how it compares. Only $40.

 

[RGF]

wifi is little use for field work (sports and wildlife). Wifi is only useful in the studio where a base station can be available.

As far as 1D build, I would like to see a mini-1Dx but don't think this will that camera.

More importantly I would like to see Canon significantly increase their DR.

Hope not to see a Foveon-type sensor with poor dynamic range

 

[GmwDarkroom]

I expect to try the TP Link TL-MR3040 soon to see how it compares. Only $40.

This is what I use on my 60D. Works great. The DSLR Controller app is better than Canon's app and the range on the TP Link is excellent. I get 30 or so feet -- maybe a bit more -- depending on the environment. For the money, it can't be beat.

I'm hoping the IQ will significantly increase over what APS-C has to offer now. If not, I may save my money for a full-frame.