An RF mount L macro lens will be announced alongside the high-megapixel EOS R camera

I wouldn’t expect a 180mm f2 or anything! Although you never know what patent will show up at the moment.. A low cost 150mm f4 weathersealed true macro lens with IS would interest me! I’m not a fan of built in LEDs really, just no replacement for speedlites and softboxes!
I don't disagree - but its a feature that doesn't have to be used all the time. Depending on how flexible it is on what part of the LED array you can use, it has the potential to be very handy (especially in the field).
 
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I don't disagree - but its a feature that doesn't have to be used all the time. Depending on how flexible it is on what part of the LED array you can use, it has the potential to be very handy (especially in the field).
True! There’s certainly been times when I’ve needed a bit of extra light but didn’t bring flashes and diffusers with me. Would be handy for focusing too!
 
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True! There’s certainly been times when I’ve needed a bit of extra light but didn’t bring flashes and diffusers with me. Would be handy for focusing too!
The LEDs on the current macro lenses are really only good out to about 12” / 30 cm at best. Perhaps an LED on a new RF macro would be more powerful, but I definitely would not expect it to replace a flash. Not even close.
 
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Never done focus stacking, but on my bucket list. But that makes sense if that’s what you’re doing and a shallow Dof doesnt matter except for the fact Id assume you’d have to take even more photos to stack.

Yes, that is a downside. Depends how much time you have and how much storage you want to use (if I'm doing loads of moths, say, in a short space of time, I tend to increase the DOF to save both).
 
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As for me, a 250mm f/4 or f/5.6 with an MFD of 75 cm or larger would be the best. But an EF-S 60mm f/2.8 IS USM with at least 2 stops stabilization would also be good.
I'm not really interested either in built-in ring light or larger than f/2.8 aperture as I'm used to take my shots at f/8 or f/9 and sometimes – if the subject is relatively big and I can have a larger working distance – at f/5.6 or so.
I don't think that focus stacking is really that important as the larger the magnification you have to use the smaller the subject is. I have a front-view shot of a small weevil – about 3 mm – and with the EF-S 60 mm and the 25 mm extension tube I have almost the complete beetle in focus with f/8 while it almost completely fills the frame (the photo).
As for the definitions: 10:1 or larger is micro. Between 1:1 and 10:1 it is macro. From 1:2 to 1:1 you can call it close-up. Smaller than 1:2 is just a regular photo with something small in it. It's not macro and not even close up.
And at last just a theoretical question: would a macro zoom lens with at least 1:1 magnification ration in any focal range be possible? Because a RF 60-180mm (or 70-200mm) f/2.8 IS USM macro only – from 2.5:1 to 1:1 magnification ratio – would really be unique. :)
 
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As for me, a 250mm f/4 or f/5.6 with an MFD of 75 cm or larger would be the best. But an EF-S 60mm f/2.8 IS USM with at least 2 stops stabilization would also be good.
I'm not really interested either in built-in ring light or larger than f/2.8 aperture as I'm used to take my shots at f/8 or f/9 and sometimes – if the subject is relatively big and I can have a larger working distance – at f/5.6 or so.
I don't think that focus stacking is really that important as the larger the magnification you have to use the smaller the subject is. I have a front-view shot of a small weevil – about 3 mm – and with the EF-S 60 mm and the 25 mm extension tube I have almost the complete beetle in focus with f/8 while it almost completely fills the frame (the photo).
As for the definitions: 10:1 or larger is micro. Between 1:1 and 10:1 it is macro. From 1:2 to 1:1 you can call it close-up. Smaller than 1:2 is just a regular photo with something small in it. It's not macro and not even close up.
And at last just a theoretical question: would a macro zoom lens with at least 1:1 magnification ration in any focal range be possible? Because a RF 60-180mm (or 70-200mm) f/2.8 IS USM macro only – from 2.5:1 to 1:1 magnification ratio – would really be unique. :)

The EF 100mm isn't 100mm at macro distance, more like 70mm, so a zoom would probably be even worse.
 
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If it is released with the high megapixel mirrorless camera, it will likely be pretty special, and very expensive. Maybe a zoom? Realisticly, how long could its focal length be and still have an aperture wider than f2.8? What about a very short focal length for lots of depth of field?
Maybe the high res camera will do focus stacking automatically like the RP? Could be a reason to release a new macro lens along side it.
 
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Will this High Mega EOS R have.
1. Same or better ISO performance?
2. Same or better dynamic range?
3. Same or faster high speed frame rate in servo?
This is actually macro lens convo :p.
Sounds like you dont want high resolution camera if want all 3 thing too .
General purpose sony A7r iv or canon 5div would suit better ,those cameras wont do compromises to get as high mpixel count as possible.
 
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