Atomos brings 8K 30p ProRes RAW to the Canon EOS R5 with the Ninja V+
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I’m seriously excited about the R3, which almost certainly means I’ll be very disappointed! But if it is, as Canon say, positioned squarely between the R5 and 1DX III then it should be comfortably under $6,500 too.
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Yes, the R3 can't really be released with any lower spec. Am I the only one gobsmacked by what seems to be able to be done with firmware upgrades these days?
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If you look back at what Magic Lantern did with cameras like the 50D, 5D3 and some Rebels, you will see that you could always do a lot with firmware. Of late, Canon has perhaps developed a bit more motivation to actually do it.
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I suspect it's the difference between 8k regular video over HDMI, which would be YUV4xx data with all the CRT based blanking intervals around it and bandwidth allocated for high res audio and a custom compressed bitstream that the V+ can decode to 8k ProResRAW.
However Atomos envisions this working, they need Canon to release at best a firmware update and at worst offer a 'conversion service' where you send in your R5.
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My guess is, that they will keep their 4 years cycle in the professional series. I guess that the R5 II will come out in 3 years.
In my opinion 3 years would be better to keep up with the latest tech, but 4 years worked so far quite good for me (coming from an 5D II, to 5D III, to 5D IV and 1DX II to the R5 finaly).
IF they add external 8k RAW without overheat to the R5 - than this would make the camera easily up to date for 5-7 years. In combination with the great AF its a great little video camera thats just winning features =)
If overheat remains a problem, than the R3 will likely be my next camera =)
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It is kind of tough to compare the Canon 5 and 6 series to the A7 but Sony updates their A7 cameras whenever.
It is kind of tough to jump 4 years ahead of the competition and easy to fall a few years behind with a 4-year upgrade schedule.
On the other hand, Sony users are often frustrated not knowing when camera models will come out which is an argument in favor of a fixed schedule.
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Yep correct. When the r5 came out last year there was speculation and my research concluded the same as you. 2.1 as was stated was too new in comparison to when most of the hardware for the r5 was concluded.
Given that Canon are doing it, then I’m confident the v+ will support it after the firmware update To the r5. Whether there’s more than just rerouting over hdmi (output at 4:2:0), it still should keep a lot of people happy.
I’d be very interested in knowing what chip is inside that justifies the near 3x increase over the v, and how much more the v+ will be able to handle.
Still, glad Canon has worked with them - albeit late to the party in comparison to Nikon, Sony, Panasonic but still, good that they’ve got a solution.
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I am so happy that I did not buy the Ninja V this week when I initially considered doing so! I bought a Shinobi monitor instead in order to get its universal features on any camera. It's hard keeping up with all the technological camera changes every 6 months. My pocket-book is very happy at the moment, and I will only upgrade when all this sudden industry shift craze settles down for at least a year and several more options become available. What is Atomos going to do in 1 year from now? Release the Ninja V++ / VI when they decide that they will provide 8K 24/30/60 fps? I don't have $1,800 to spend every year. Heck, my Atomos Shogun Inferno is now obsolete according to future support; though I still use it and love it for my work.
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They wouldn't need to release the full specs to enable Atomos to know what the HDMI specs are. But companies often work in conjunction with third parties to facilitate accessories to be available on release.
I know some L-Plate manufacturers used to get dummy bodies well before release but now they get CAD files so they have to 3D print the mockups themselves. Same with underwater housing manufacturers.
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Personally, I find the R5 and A1 TINY monitors not conducive for filming. Now we might be on the precipice of an unlimited 8K filming experience with the R5, viewing on a Ninja Cinco +, heck ya, I'm all in !!!
Hopefully, on RCinco De Mayo, Canon and Atomos will stream the details
Hopefully, on RCinco De Mayo, Canon and Atomos will stream the details
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Atomos is expected to make an official announcement on May 6th.
It sounds to me like they already have the camera and the firmware they need.
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So does a Ninja V owner who pays the 99usd to upgrade basically get the same as the Ninja V+ which is much more expensive?
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