Canon EOS 70D Coming in July? [CR2]

[Don Haines]

I'll make my prediction for the 70D. The 70D will come with a mode dial that goes all the way around, plus some other stuff that is not as important as the mode dial, like better AF, WiFi, GPS, and touchscreen

 

[Daniel Flather]

(and for removing the articulating LCD :-*).

That'll never happen.

agreed. A lot of people like it and there seem to be no sealing problems with it. I keep hearing people say it can be brokemn off, but you never seem to hear of it hapenning to anyone...

True, but I was alluding to the fact that a camera of this market needs to have a swivel screen if the competition offers. It's the same with a Sony "amp", it better have 1100 or moar watts.

 

[JonAustin]

(and for removing the articulating LCD :-*).

I would have liked for the Canon 5DIII to have the articulating screen. Without it, I don't personally have much use for LiveView. (And just because a body has an articulating screen doesn't mean that you have to use it, if you don't like it or are concerned about damaging it ...)

 

[Rocguy]

(and for removing the articulating LCD :-*).

I would have liked for the Canon 5DIII to have the articulating screen. Without it, I don't personally have much use for LiveView. (And just because a body has an articulating screen doesn't mean that you have to use it, if you don't like it or are concerned about damaging it ...)

I had the t4i, with the swivel screen, and now the 6D with the wifi and EOS app. I do NOT miss the swivel screen at all. Not at all. The EOS remote app over the wifi is so much better than an articulating screen.

 

[wickidwombat]

I'm both excited and disappointed. I've waited a long time for 70D announcement, so that's exciting. However, if mass-production issues for the new sensor are what's holding up the 7DII, then it's likely that the 70D will have the same sensor as the SL1 and T5i, so that's kind of disappointing.

Maybe I'll just be really optimistic and hope that not only does the 70D have the new sensor tech, but that the 7DII will therefore also be announced some time this year. Of course, frustration arises out of unmet expectations. I should probably keep my expectations low...

My bet would be that, had new sensor production gone as planned, the 70D would have the new tech (and have been released quite a while ago), but that since it didn't, and they have to release something, they'll do the best they can with all non-sensor improvements and send it out to market.

I'm expecting:

• Metal body (or mostly metal)
• Improved weather sealing
• AFMA
• Slightly improved AF system
• 12,800 ISO (expandable to 25,600)
• A few more creative filters

They might also throw in WiFi and/or GPS, depending on how much they feel they need to compensate for the incremental sensor upgrade.

We'll see...

PS: I really like the swivel screen. First used it on my ever-faithful A80 and currently enjoy it on my G12. Both screens function and articulate as the day they were new (despite some hard use). Knock on wood. I can't imagine not having it, especially since many of the photos I take are from low(er) positions...

I'm expecting

1) a nob that goes ALL the way round
2) a 7 instead of the 6 in the 60d badge
3) 12800 iso will look like a cat vomit after eating a pack of m&ms

 

[scrup]

The 60D continues to sell well. There is no reason for canon to improve the sensor at this stage. They will milk the existing technology for as long as they can.

70D will be as much an upgrade as the 700D is to the 650D with wifi and GPS.

Prepare for disappointment.

 

[steliosk]

i really expect a camera that aims in image quality and not some gadget features such as touch screen and wifi but i don't see it coming.

I'm sure though that canon will ignore real photographer's needs completely once more, and won't improve dynamic range, low iso noise, and more megapixels with a brand new APS-C sensor.

So why bother with this 70D, just for creative filters and touch screen? and where does this road lead to? to a new future 80D and 90D with the same 550D 18mp sensor, a facelift and instagram filters under a new firmware that's done yesterday? duhhhh..

When canon decides to to improve their products on true IMAGE QUALITY, i'll start putting my money again on it.. until then no worries folks.

 

[Independent]

On 5/16, a canonrumors source said there would be a "surprise" in July, so could the 70D announcement in July bring a surprisingly good camera? Just hoping.

 

[pj1974]

12800 iso will look like a cat vomit after eating a pack of m&ms

THAT made me LOL!! ;D I've never heard that as a description of high noise, but it's very apt!

I've used the SL1 (in store) for about 5 minutes the other week and then I also tried the 700D in store too. So I couldn't really determine the noise to any great detail, but both did seem fairly close to my 7D (judging from the screens and zooming in).

Hopefully Canon will introduce a new, improved sensor with the 7DmkII (and even better, if it is included in the 70D). As I'm not planning on getting a 70D, but rather a 7DmkII (or mkIII) if / when my 7D is due for replacement, I do hope Canon achieves advances in their sensor technology over the next few releases, both the 70D and 7Dmkxx. I'm very happy with my 7D, and have used a number of xxD cameras too, and still have my old 350D as a backup.

Regarding swivel screen- if it's 'quite solid' when locked in, I'm all for that, at times (especially with macros or some positions) - having a swivel screen using live view can be helpful (and I don't own a smart phone... yet)...

I am sure the 70D will be a great enthusiast camera, hopefully they will include AFMA with it, and a robust AF system - these are 2 things I think that level of camera deserve.

Paul

 

[brad-man]

I'm both excited and disappointed. I've waited a long time for 70D announcement, so that's exciting. However, if mass-production issues for the new sensor are what's holding up the 7DII, then it's likely that the 70D will have the same sensor as the SL1 and T5i, so that's kind of disappointing.

Maybe I'll just be really optimistic and hope that not only does the 70D have the new sensor tech, but that the 7DII will therefore also be announced some time this year. Of course, frustration arises out of unmet expectations. I should probably keep my expectations low...

My bet would be that, had new sensor production gone as planned, the 70D would have the new tech (and have been released quite a while ago), but that since it didn't, and they have to release something, they'll do the best they can with all non-sensor improvements and send it out to market.

I'm expecting:

• Metal body (or mostly metal)
• Improved weather sealing
• AFMA
• Slightly improved AF system
• 12,800 ISO (expandable to 25,600)
• A few more creative filters

They might also throw in WiFi and/or GPS, depending on how much they feel they need to compensate for the incremental sensor upgrade.

We'll see...

PS: I really like the swivel screen. First used it on my ever-faithful A80 and currently enjoy it on my G12. Both screens function and articulate as the day they were new (despite some hard use). Knock on wood. I can't imagine not having it, especially since many of the photos I take are from low(er) positions...

I'm expecting

1) a nob that goes ALL the way round
2) a 7 instead of the 6 in the 60d badge
3) 12800 iso will look like a cat vomit after eating a pack of m&ms

;D ;D ;D Oh c'mon. WiFi, AFMA and perhaps higher FPS.
Creative filters?

 

[jdramirez]

Hmm. Announcing a product in July would be a first for Canon, no?

But if the 70D is indeed announced in July, then it's quite unlikely
that the 7DII will be announced in August/September.

So, it looks like the 7DII will be a 2014 camera, after all.

Well, let's hope that the 70D specs will be exciting.
Fingers crossed for a new sensor (and for removing the articulating LCD :-*).

The articulating screen is one of my favorite features. Just the other day I had to hold the camera above the heads of a crowd just to get a shot... and I was able to see in live view and still frame up my shot because I angled the screen down.

 

[RGomezPhotos]

Love the "For advanced soccer moms" comment.

The X0D cameras are low-end prosumer cameras and ones hopes really should expect all that much. But I've seen amazing video work from a properly rigged 60D. The kind of work that most of these Internet-Forum-Photographers can't touch.

I would love the X0D cameras go back to the magnesium body. It's why I chose my 50D over the Rebel and better spec'd 60D. I think the 70D will get an extra stop of ISO performance and hopefully WiFi and/or GPS. If it gets all of these features in this paragraph, it would be one damn-fine camera.

There are reasons to get a 5D III over a 70D. That's why there is a price difference too.

 

[jdramirez]

well if it really has the same old 18 MP sensor i would stick with a 60D a bit longer.

let´s hope it is not such a pisspoor update as we have seen in the rebel line.

I'm upgrading to a 5d mkiii, so the 70D isn't even on my radar screen. But what I would like to see from the 70D is improved image quality from the sensor, but I'm ok with 18mp... or 19mp just to distinguish it from its predecessor.

I'd really like to see a bluetooth feature so I can transfer a photo to my phone so I can post or email that way. Seems like a simple enough function to add.

I'd like them to add back in AFMA, better low light performance, a few more AF points along the next level of AF points (outside the present 9).

I could care less about the gps or the wifi... so honestly... I think I was the 60D and the 50D to mate and get just a little better. So I guess I really don't care.

 

[jdramirez]

I bought my 60D two years ago along with the 18-135mm. I sold the 18-135mm for $300 and my final price was around $700.

I'm selling it used for at least $500... maybe as much as $550. $200 in depreciation for two years isn't bad.

 

[Famateur]

I'm both excited and disappointed. I've waited a long time for 70D announcement, so that's exciting. However, if mass-production issues for the new sensor are what's holding up the 7DII, then it's likely that the 70D will have the same sensor as the SL1 and T5i, so that's kind of disappointing.

Maybe I'll just be really optimistic and hope that not only does the 70D have the new sensor tech, but that the 7DII will therefore also be announced some time this year. Of course, frustration arises out of unmet expectations. I should probably keep my expectations low...

My bet would be that, had new sensor production gone as planned, the 70D would have the new tech (and have been released quite a while ago), but that since it didn't, and they have to release something, they'll do the best they can with all non-sensor improvements and send it out to market.

I'm expecting:

• Metal body (or mostly metal)
• Improved weather sealing
• AFMA
• Slightly improved AF system
• 12,800 ISO (expandable to 25,600)
• A few more creative filters

They might also throw in WiFi and/or GPS, depending on how much they feel they need to compensate for the incremental sensor upgrade.

We'll see...

PS: I really like the swivel screen. First used it on my ever-faithful A80 and currently enjoy it on my G12. Both screens function and articulate as the day they were new (despite some hard use). Knock on wood. I can't imagine not having it, especially since many of the photos I take are from low(er) positions...

I'm expecting

1) a nob that goes ALL the way round
2) a 7 instead of the 6 in the 60d badge
3) 12800 iso will look like a cat vomit after eating a pack of m&ms

LOL...you may be right! If it's still cat vomit, I'll just keep going with my G12 (which I love) until an 80D comes along or I can afford a full-frame body. By the way, if I had a cat, I'd probably feed it M&Ms, too.

The articulating screen is one of my favorite features. Just the other day I had to hold the camera above the heads of a crowd just to get a shot... and I was able to see in live view and still frame up my shot because I angled the screen down.

Reminds me of the photographer at my cousin's wedding. For the big group-shot of all the family and extended family, she kept lifting her camera over her head, taking her best guess at aim, then bringing it down to see if it was okay. She did this 8-10 times until she was satisfied.

My brother, on the other hand, flipped the swivel screen out on his T3i and took two (great) pictures.

 

[wickidwombat]

yeah i actually like the articulating screen on the t3i Its something i feel the EOS-M really could have done with
those overhead shots are alot easier as you point out

 

[Chosenbydestiny]

Some people in this thread are already coming to solid conclusions about the 70D, making remarks about it's use for soccer moms, etc. I understand making guesses based on Canon's track record for releases, but still. How are you so sure the 70D will be so much like the 60D? Wasn't the 60D a radical change from it's predecessor? My nephew plays soccer but I've actually never seen a soccer mom with a 60D, 9/10 it's a rebel and then I did see one with a Nikon D3000. The use of the term soccer mom is kinda overblown in this forum. I mean, what if we saw a soccer mom with a 1DX? I guess that makes the 1DX a soccer mom camera too. I personally would rather make fun of the old tourist folk and their odd setups like this one guy I met who had a 70-300 on his film body...for a vacation camera. Whatever makes people happy I guess.

 

[jdramirez]

Some people in this thread are already coming to solid conclusions about the 70D, making remarks about it's use for soccer moms, etc. I understand making guesses based on Canon's track record for releases, but still. How are you so sure the 70D will be so much like the 60D? Wasn't the 60D a radical change from it's predecessor? My nephew plays soccer but I've actually never seen a soccer mom with a 60D, 9/10 it's a rebel and then I did see one with a Nikon D3000. The use of the term soccer mom is kinda overblown in this forum. I mean, what if we saw a soccer mom with a 1DX? I guess that makes the 1DX a soccer mom camera too. I personally would rather make fun of the old tourist folk and their odd setups like this one guy I met who had a 70-300 on his film body...for a vacation camera. Whatever makes people happy I guess.

I was at the American Girl store and a pretty nice looking mom had a 5D mkii/iii (I couldn't tell and I was busier looking at her other features), and I believe a 24-70. I'm going to guess it was a $5000 set up to take a picture of her kid with next to a silly cardboard cutout... but who knows, maybe she was using her pro gear on a personal errand... but I think she was a rich woman who had more money than talent... though she did have some nice talents...

 

[skfla]

I'm both excited and disappointed. I've waited a long time for 70D announcement, so that's exciting. However, if mass-production issues for the new sensor are what's holding up the 7DII, then it's likely that the 70D will have the same sensor as the SL1 and T5i, so that's kind of disappointing.

Maybe I'll just be really optimistic and hope that not only does the 70D have the new sensor tech, but that the 7DII will therefore also be announced some time this year. Of course, frustration arises out of unmet expectations. I should probably keep my expectations low...

My bet would be that, had new sensor production gone as planned, the 70D would have the new tech (and have been released quite a while ago), but that since it didn't, and they have to release something, they'll do the best they can with all non-sensor improvements and send it out to market.

I'm expecting:

• Metal body (or mostly metal)
• Improved weather sealing
• AFMA
• Slightly improved AF system
• 12,800 ISO (expandable to 25,600)
• A few more creative filters

They might also throw in WiFi and/or GPS, depending on how much they feel they need to compensate for the incremental sensor upgrade.

We'll see...

PS: I really like the swivel screen. First used it on my ever-faithful A80 and currently enjoy it on my G12. Both screens function and articulate as the day they were new (despite some hard use). Knock on wood. I can't imagine not having it, especially since many of the photos I take are from low(er) positions...

I'm expecting

1) a nob that goes ALL the way round
2) a 7 instead of the 6 in the 60d badge
3) 12800 iso will look like a cat vomit after eating a pack of m&ms

Sorry, guess it because 1) its late & I'm tired & 2) I'm totally past ANY interest in guessing about the 70D. Because if I had been drinking milk when I read wickidwombat's comments, the milk would have squirted out my nose. Pretty far too.

 

[gmrza]

I was at the American Girl store and a pretty nice looking mom had a 5D mkii/iii (I couldn't tell and I was busier looking at her other features), and I believe a 24-70. I'm going to guess it was a $5000 set up to take a picture of her kid with next to a silly cardboard cutout... but who knows, maybe she was using her pro gear on a personal errand... but I think she was a rich woman who had more money than talent... though she did have some nice talents...

My wife goes to soccer matches, and to the watch crit racing with a 5DIII and 70-200 f/2.8IS II and 24-70 F/2.8 II. It just so happens that she also runs a studio ....

Who says all soccer mums don't know one end of a camera from the other!