Canon to Announce a Rebel 1300D Shortly

Canon never introduces a new product without market research. I'm thinking Canon is going for those that are on the fence, but money is the issue. If they price this right, they might pick off a new sector of the market. If it has a decent AF system, it would be a great "soccer mom" camera.
I carry an SL1 and a couple cheap lenses in the car at all times. It's a fun little camera and didn't break the bank. These low end cameras would be great for kids just starting out. If the camera gets dropped or stolen, no big tears.
 
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My understanding is the xxxxD line is used to squeeze the last drops of juice out manufacturing facilities of bottom of the line parts, and make the cheapest possible entry level DSLR.

In other words, Canon has already covered all the expenses related to the DIGIC 4+ and the 18MP sensor introduced in 2009 with the EOS 7D, selling the parts in one more camera would be pure profit.
 
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If spring is coming so is a new rebel. There like the lost leader on a car lot. It gets the customer in the shop. After looking at it the customer may ask "What else have you got that I won't grow out of in a short time?" Hello 80D!
They won't try to sell a 5D iii. But be sure full frame will be mentioned as the end game down the road. It was for me when I purchased my 40D. For me my end game is a xxD with CF and Sd card slots, with the features that the 80D and 7Dii have now and a few more for good measure.
Using leftover parts in a new model is smart thinking. But when you use them all up do you make more or make a new model with newer leftover parts?
I think that's why you can still buy the previous model camera when a new model comes out. They have kept production going so there are no stock piles of out dated parts.
 
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Here's how it goes.....

I started out buying the 100D thinking this is the last Camera I will ever need. 2 years later, absolutely hooked.
Across the room on it's tripod is my 5DIII with the 16-35 f4 L with the 24-70 f4 in the bag along with the 40mm pancake

(by the way love my 100D)

Nephew get's a 1100D for school photography course. Now works in Jessops and the proud owner of a 5DIII

That's what a 1200D/1300D is about - though the 100D is simply the best starter camera for anyone thinking of dabbling in the addictive world of DSLR Photography attach it to the best value lens ever (the 10-18 EF-S STM) and you will never look back.
 
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You have to love theae cheap cameras. They pack so much punch. I love it when they are used to show the people with multiple 1000€€ around their neck how its done - and they surely are capable of that!
I often wonder, how much would your photography improve, if you'd limit yourself to something like this? Would it actually be more fun because you dont even bother about fps or high iso?
Sort of like the cameraphone effect...
 
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neuroanatomist said:
The key upgrade: +100 (as in 1200D to 1300D); that and the release date of 2016.

Look, people – this is the entry level to the entry level model. The target market is not anyone who owns a dSLR. This isn't intended to tempt anyone to upgrade their T3/1100D or T5/1200D. The target market is especially not anyone who reads CanonRumors. So criticize away, just understand the irrelevance of what you say.

Good points, and I agree with you. But it makes one wonder why they'd go to the bother of releasing a replacement with almost exactly the same specs as the one it's supposed to replace.
 
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PhotoGuy said:
You have to love theae cheap cameras. They pack so much punch. I love it when they are used to show the people with multiple 1000€€ around their neck how its done - and they surely are capable of that!
I often wonder, how much would your photography improve, if you'd limit yourself to something like this? Would it actually be more fun because you dont even bother about fps or high iso?
Sort of like the cameraphone effect...

^ ^
 
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IglooEater said:
neuroanatomist said:
The key upgrade: +100 (as in 1200D to 1300D); that and the release date of 2016.

Look, people – this is the entry level to the entry level model. The target market is not anyone who owns a dSLR. This isn't intended to tempt anyone to upgrade their T3/1100D or T5/1200D. The target market is especially not anyone who reads CanonRumors. So criticize away, just understand the irrelevance of what you say.

Good points, and I agree with you. But it makes one wonder why they'd go to the bother of releasing a replacement with almost exactly the same specs as the one it's supposed to replace.

1) To impress potential buyers the model's newness. People want to have and be seen with new / current products.

2) People are now expecting cameras to have wi-fi so they could post photos to social media and not bother with cables, just like they do with their smart phones.

3) Competition - the Nikon D7200 & D5500 are newer and have wi-fi.
 
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We have a definite camera, with "probable" specs. The specs could be wrong, or incomplete, and there could be something besides the WiFi elevating this over its predecessor.

But don't count on it.

This camera is going to be built to price, and to sit in huge stacks in Walmart, Sam's, and Costco. It will get the job done for its target markets - half "gateway drug" camera, half "the greatest camera they'll ever own". And it will allow its users to take great pictures as well as horrible ones. Most of its users wont care which, as they'll have their life events recorded for posterity, and be happy as clams. (who was it that decided that clams were happy, anyway???)

In any case. Bravo to Canon for continuing to address this segment of the market as well as the top end! (and everything in between)
 
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IglooEater said:
neuroanatomist said:
The key upgrade: +100 (as in 1200D to 1300D); that and the release date of 2016.

Look, people – this is the entry level to the entry level model. The target market is not anyone who owns a dSLR. This isn't intended to tempt anyone to upgrade their T3/1100D or T5/1200D. The target market is especially not anyone who reads CanonRumors. So criticize away, just understand the irrelevance of what you say.

Good points, and I agree with you. But it makes one wonder why they'd go to the bother of releasing a replacement with almost exactly the same specs as the one it's supposed to replace.

Because newer/current key in that market segment. The T5i/700D was a very popular model. Maybe you can make a list of the 'improvements' over the T4i/650D – the smallest scrap of paper you can find should provide more than enough space. ;)
 
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neuroanatomist said:
ajfotofilmagem said:
I know you can make good images with any current DSLR, but I imagine a beginner DSLR in the world, who wants to buy his first camera "for real."

These guys would be excited with 24 megapixel and ISO12800 (equal T6i). After the higher the number, the better the camera ... That would cost another $ 50? Maybe $ 100, but would be more appetizing, the eyes of a layman.

At that end of the market, a $50 or $100 difference can be very significant.

Absolutely, price is king. Besides, I don't think most people - even those considering their first DSLR - know what ISO is.
 
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Mr Majestyk said:
ajfotofilmagem said:
I do not usually criticize new camera models, only through the specifications. But these are the most discouraging I have ever read.

My thoughts exactly, absolutely woeful specs for a 2016 camera, even entry level. One can only hope these specs are bogus otherwise the forums will go ballistic.

Forums are a very distorted view of the world. Besides, do you think that Canon cares? Forums have pilloried many of their products for ages, but they still appear to sell well. Sales are what counts to a business, not online chatterings.
 
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This is a camera which will be sold by the aisle, shelf and signage placement. Sold by the box graphics. Sold by the enormous pyramid stack on the pallet at Costco. Not by folks comparing notes over it compared to Nikon or Sonys offering at CR or DPR.

More people shooting with a dslr than a cellphone, maybe a small percentage staying in the field, learning more about ILC and having a new active hobby that keeps $ in the industry. This is a good thing. The bashing for an entry level camera and using it for a platform to gripe about why your personal request to Canon wasn't created instead is nothing short of comical.
 
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