Thank you for the compliment, and you are bang on right about the limitations of the image....Quarkcharmed said:Don Haines said:OK......
Here is what you could do with a 2.1 Megapixel P/S camera with 8 stops of DR in 2001.....
I firmly believe that the major limitation with ALL cameras is the person using them.
All cameras today are better..... but people remain the same.
It looks good small sized. I appreciate your skill, it's a nice picture, colours and composition - no problem.
Opened full size 1600x1200 - sorry, the image quality is below mediocre. First of all it's not sharp... looks ok at 800x600 maybe. Also there's two blown out patches in the sky (thanks to low DR).
So it's good enough as an Instagram post, but not really usable if you want to print it or view on a big screen. Taken with a better modern camera, it could've been so much better/usable.
Don Haines said:We are seeing diminishing returns. As new models come out, the differences are less and less. The only way left to differentiate between into and advanced models is features.... the basic IQ is approaching convergence. The M50 is being marketed as an introductory level camera and, at least to my mind, we should expect limitations on what it can do and what features it has.
Talys said:The problem is the technology expectations game. People expected that the 6D2 would be a cheap 5D4, for example, simply because that's how it works in smartphones and tablets and laptops: today's cutting edge is tomorrow's midrange is next year's entry level.
High end cameras, especially by Canon, have been very stubborn in this respect, as Canon does not trickle down many of its professional features into less expensive bodies.
Tugela said:Those old cameras were only good for old style snap shots, and then only barely. Anything larger than that and they look pretty terrible. So you would not be able to view them on any monitor and still look decent for example. Besides having low resolution, other issues were compression artefacts and debeyering (which reduces effective resolution)
The minimum for decent shots is about 8 megapixels.
dak723 said:Tugela said:Those old cameras were only good for old style snap shots, and then only barely. Anything larger than that and they look pretty terrible. So you would not be able to view them on any monitor and still look decent for example. Besides having low resolution, other issues were compression artefacts and debeyering (which reduces effective resolution)
The minimum for decent shots is about 8 megapixels.
Ha Ha Ha! I guess I will have to give a refund to all those folks that bought 8" x 12" prints taken with my 6 MP 300D! Those prints, by the way, are indistinguishable from the prints made with my 20 MP 6D. Always fun to see someone so wrong as they try so hard to make a point.
ahsanford said:I largely agree with your post, but Canon -- in all of its considerable market wisdom -- occasionally makes some knuckle-headed decisions.
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neuroanatomist said:OTOH, this lioness seems quite happy with a mere 4 MP...
dak723 said:Ha Ha Ha! I guess I will have to give a refund to all those folks that bought 8" x 12" prints taken with my 6 MP 300D! Those prints, by the way, are indistinguishable from the prints made with my 20 MP 6D. Always fun to see someone so wrong as they try so hard to make a point.
Quarkcharmed said:dak723 said:Ha Ha Ha! I guess I will have to give a refund to all those folks that bought 8" x 12" prints taken with my 6 MP 300D! Those prints, by the way, are indistinguishable from the prints made with my 20 MP 6D. Always fun to see someone so wrong as they try so hard to make a point.
Prints of what DPI? say 300DPI, 8*300*12*300 = 8640000, it's 8.6MP, a bit larger than 6MP, but well within the capacity of the 6D.
If you print at 150DPI (which in my opinion is too low for 8x12 prints), then yes the prints will look roughly the same.
Quarkcharmed said:dak723 said:Ha Ha Ha! I guess I will have to give a refund to all those folks that bought 8" x 12" prints taken with my 6 MP 300D! Those prints, by the way, are indistinguishable from the prints made with my 20 MP 6D. Always fun to see someone so wrong as they try so hard to make a point.
Prints of what DPI? say 300DPI, 8*300*12*300 = 8640000, it's 8.6MP, a bit larger than 6MP, but well within the capacity of the 6D.
If you print at 150DPI (which in my opinion is too low for 8x12 prints), then yes the prints will look roughly the same.
dak723 said:Quarkcharmed said:dak723 said:Ha Ha Ha! I guess I will have to give a refund to all those folks that bought 8" x 12" prints taken with my 6 MP 300D! Those prints, by the way, are indistinguishable from the prints made with my 20 MP 6D. Always fun to see someone so wrong as they try so hard to make a point.
Prints of what DPI? say 300DPI, 8*300*12*300 = 8640000, it's 8.6MP, a bit larger than 6MP, but well within the capacity of the 6D.
If you print at 150DPI (which in my opinion is too low for 8x12 prints), then yes the prints will look roughly the same.
8" x 12" prints from my old 6 MP Digital Rebel were about 250 ppi, which as Talys mentions is plenty good enough. And as he also mentions, if you want to go bigger, than, of course, 20 MP is better.
In fact, with my 6 MP rebel, I could get excellent quality prints printing as low as 180 ppi. I have a cropped pic that's approx. 3.2 MP (2046 x 1536) printed to approx. 8.5 x 11. The larger pixels seemed to make it possible to print at a lower ppi and still get really good results. When I got an 18 MP camera a few years ago, I felt that somewhere around 220-240 ppi was as low as I could go to make a sharp print. Of course, now we will hear how the size of the pixels doesn't matter. Well, maybe not always, but in my experience with the cameras I have had - it does.