EOS-1 Announcement Q2 2014? [CR1]
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I find the timing a bit off. 2014 Winter Olympics' on February could've used it and the World Cup's on June.
If an announcement were to be made it should've happened last month.
For reference here are the announce dates of the 1DX and 1D4. They are separated by 24 months.
xx October 2013 = 1DX replacement... supposedly
18 October 2011 = 1DX
20 October 2009 = 1D4
Another thing going against new hardware is the firmware update of the 1DX & 1DC that adds new functionality to the camera. Firmware 2.0 will be released by January next year and probably extend the product life by a good year or two.
This has precedent with the 7D. Firmware 2.0 happened to the 7D on 6 August 2012 while the hardware was announced on 1 September 2009.
It would surprise a lot of people that the 7D has been in production for more than 4 years!
If an announcement were to be made it should've happened last month.
For reference here are the announce dates of the 1DX and 1D4. They are separated by 24 months.
xx October 2013 = 1DX replacement... supposedly
18 October 2011 = 1DX
20 October 2009 = 1D4
Another thing going against new hardware is the firmware update of the 1DX & 1DC that adds new functionality to the camera. Firmware 2.0 will be released by January next year and probably extend the product life by a good year or two.
This has precedent with the 7D. Firmware 2.0 happened to the 7D on 6 August 2012 while the hardware was announced on 1 September 2009.
It would surprise a lot of people that the 7D has been in production for more than 4 years!
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NWPhil said:
Agree with the question, these comments on this thread are either wind up merchants or wind up merchants.
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drjlo said:
Well one thing definitely comes to mind --- sony has little to no glass, yeah you can use an adapter, but adapters tend to be a trade off...so there goes a lot of your IQ. A studio model 1d series body would have the definite advantage just in range of glass options
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dolina said:
if the focus of this new camera is more on quality vs quality (larger Mp's, larger files, slower frame rate's), then this may not be the camera for sports --- the 1dx would still reign at the top. My guess for a new sports body we're talking closer to summer olympics, 2016
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Sounds a lot smaller body high MP, high DR camera is a LONG way off then. Looks like no 7D2 for me and my money goes to A7R instead in the spring then.
Hopefully the new 1 series will be awesome though so in a couple years it'll be in smaller canon bodies and for a reasonable price. Just use the A7R for a couple years to tie one over until Canon decides to get back in the game when it comes to producing small package (5 series sized) with high MP/DR. If it also has poor low ISO DR then I might have to really think about Nikon despite the lenses and video, hope it doesn't come to that, at least the A7R gives more time to wait and think things over.
I assume this new 1 series will have to be a fps speed demon though otherwise an $8000 brick just to get 40MP and more DR (and the latter isn't even a known thing) would seem silly when you could slap an adapter on an A7R or buy a D800 plus a few lenses for the same price and have a second body to spare out of it.
Hopefully the new 1 series will be awesome though so in a couple years it'll be in smaller canon bodies and for a reasonable price. Just use the A7R for a couple years to tie one over until Canon decides to get back in the game when it comes to producing small package (5 series sized) with high MP/DR. If it also has poor low ISO DR then I might have to really think about Nikon despite the lenses and video, hope it doesn't come to that, at least the A7R gives more time to wait and think things over.
I assume this new 1 series will have to be a fps speed demon though otherwise an $8000 brick just to get 40MP and more DR (and the latter isn't even a known thing) would seem silly when you could slap an adapter on an A7R or buy a D800 plus a few lenses for the same price and have a second body to spare out of it.
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justsomedude said:P95 said:So Nikon produces a large mega pixel (36mp) camera for $3k. If and when Canon produces a large mega pixel (speculated 47mp) camera it's looking to be around $7k in an EOS-1 boy type. :
Right? I just don't know what Canon is doing anymore. My long held belief of, "I'm tied to Canon because of all the glass I own," may actually be starting to fade. For the first time I am considering the possibility of moving on, or at least taking on another brand full time.
And as for the $3k price of the Nikon 36mp, don't forget that Sony will be launching their version come December 1 for $2,300 ... http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Full-Frame-Interchangeable-Digital-Camera/dp/B00FRDUZUK
Really makes you wonder what you could possibly get in the $7,000 version from Canon.
The only thing I can think of is that it will have 4k video and raw 2k video and be a fps/response speed demon like the 1DX only with a lot more MP and one would hope, a lot more DR at the low end. So it would be an A7R/D800 only with much better video and super-charged stills action shooting performance?
Maybe 40MP 12fps even more souped up AF than the 1DX?
Otherwise it sounds a bit ridiculous and they will have no room for a 6fps 36-40MP 5D4 to come out soon (which unfortunately now sounds like it will be 2015, whatever it turns out to be).
Anyway at least we have the A7R+adapter to hold us over while we decided what to do long term for those who care about more MP/DR for non-actiony stuff.
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If I was in the market for a 50mp Canon I'd much rather pay 7k for it than half that for the POS that is the D800.
All megapixels with no real quality to them.
All megapixels with no real quality to them.
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TrabimanUK said:Q2 of 2014? Really? Same time as the 7D MK2 is rmoured to be outed. Yet no lens announcementsJust in time for the FIFA World Cup in Brazil, so it might be worth keeing an eye out during the matches for any "new" lenses, like the 200-400 was trialled in anger at the Olympics last year....
Should hopefully bring down the 1DMK4 to a more affordable price, so that might be a viable alternative to the 7D2 if the 7D2 isn't in the shops by August 2014 so I can shoot lots of wildlife. Fingers crossed
The big white teles are announced way ahead of time and I don't think there's much left to refresh at the top end. Maybe a 800mm f5.6 mkII or a 200mm f2 mk II....but neither of those would be particularly big announcements. We're waiting for a pair of longer TS-e replacements....again not a big announcement item. Then there's the rumored 180mm macro replacement...again, another quiet lens.
The 1DX will always be a premium product, with a high cost regardless of the cost reduction. It's been out for a few years now and it's time for a cost reduction.
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sanj said:
Well, the current 200/2 is quite good, not that much room for breathtaking advances & the 800/5.6 is...rather special. Most of the potential target demography would fare better with a 600/4+TC. I.E. likely great products with a nice showroom factor, but not much practical impact.
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+1dkyeah said:I love the idea of the 1Dx's price dropping
I'm all for that too!!! We'll see I guess....
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ewg963 said:+1dkyeah said:I love the idea of the 1Dx's price dropping
This topic really makes me wonder.
Has any of the previous 1D-series cameras been dropped in price?I don't remember the 1Ds-Mark III price dropping. I expect Canon to drop prices for just about anything, but not for 1-series bodies. Perhaps someone in the market for 1D-series cameras a bit longer than me may enlighten us.
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AmbientLight said:ewg963 said:+1dkyeah said:I love the idea of the 1Dx's price dropping
This topic really makes me wonder.
I don't remember the 1Ds-Mark III price dropping. I expect Canon to drop prices for just about anything, but not for 1-series bodies. Perhaps someone in the market for 1D-series cameras a bit longer than me may enlighten us.
No, not by any significant amounts. The 5D2 dropped a little, by £400 over 3 years.
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The 5D-III, 6D and the new 70D all use digic5+. With economies of scale digic5+ is becoming cheaper. To me the most obvious approach for the next 1-series body is that it will also have Dual-digic5+. The 1DX data pipeline is good. It could support between 38-40MP at 6fps. This would be an improvement on the D800, both in terms of res and fps. I hope it has improved Dynamic Range at low ISO and that it can offer in-camera HDR-video. If you had to choose one, would you rather have 4K-video or HDR-video?
As a side note, I believe the 7D-II will also be DD5+ based. Let me explain... to be able to compete with Sony and Nikon's hi-speed, 24MP, APS-C cameras, the 7D-II will have to have a 22-24MP sensor and shoot approx 10-12fps. Clearly the 7D-II would cannibalize some 1DX sales. Anyway, if you once again consider economies of scale on the Digic5+, then Canon will probably have some margin to sacrifice to boost 1DX sales prior to 7D-II release. I reckon that if we see a price drop on the 1DX (as some have indicated) then it is a sure sign of the impending release of the long-awaited 7D-II.
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As a side note, I believe the 7D-II will also be DD5+ based. Let me explain... to be able to compete with Sony and Nikon's hi-speed, 24MP, APS-C cameras, the 7D-II will have to have a 22-24MP sensor and shoot approx 10-12fps. Clearly the 7D-II would cannibalize some 1DX sales. Anyway, if you once again consider economies of scale on the Digic5+, then Canon will probably have some margin to sacrifice to boost 1DX sales prior to 7D-II release. I reckon that if we see a price drop on the 1DX (as some have indicated) then it is a sure sign of the impending release of the long-awaited 7D-II.
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