Normalnorm said:For me the key is the leaf shutter. This is the first camera since the Leica X-Vario to have an APS-C sensor, a leaf shutter and a 24-70 zoom. In the case of the Leica the superb, but even slower, lens was attached to a body with no EVF and only 16 MP.
Sporgon said:Someone sent me some videos of equipment shot on an iPhone in 4K. What a pain in the butt downloading it and up loading it to others. And the quality of it looked no better than anything else to me.
Wizardly said:"It's so ugly." Huh??
It quite sensibly uses the space over the lens to store the flash. Thank goodness it doesn't have the "fake pentaprism" bulb on the top. Fuji and Sony put their viewfinder too close to the lens mount to use this space, and Olympus "glue a square to a triangle" is just idiotic.
The grip actually makes sense. Its almost like someone studied ergonomics. News flash camera makers, when the buttons are on top the fingers don't curl around the front of the camera, they angle forward. The major flaw I see here is the front control wheel (yay, it's continuous instead of recessed!) is too close to the grip.
AF assist lamp is on the left, where the fingers aren't. Camera makers get this wrong all the time.
Flash it out of the way of the hot shoe. I wonder if it's high enough to not be obscured by the fully-extended lens. Hopefully.
Threaded front of lens! Yay!
Locking mode dial. Nice.
Exposure comp dial is recessed. So many cameras get this wrong.
Back is cramped. Small camera, but really cramped. Would have liked a levered drive ring under the mode dial.
Missing the image sensor plane mark.
Fully side-articulating LCD. None of the tilt crap.
One hopes the tripod mount is center-mounted (wtf Fuji?) and that the card slot is side entered (probably not, probably just sockets under a door).
Look at those enormous microphone slots next to the viewfinder.
Speaker on the left...should be on the back. The viewfinder is between the user and the microphone for playback.
Manual flash. Literally pull it up to use. Interesting choice. Saves on pointlessly spring loaded flashes I suppose, but I guess I still want one.
unfocused said:rrcphoto said:...I'm continually amazed at how many think they know the camera industry to know if canon made a good / bad / indifferent camera.
+1.
I'm also amazed at how many are so quick to declare a camera that they never intended to buy in the first place a failure, simply because it doesn't meet their own personal preferences.
This isn't the camera for me. So what? There are plenty of other options out there and I presume that Canon is not in the business of making cameras that it can't sell.
slclick said:Wizardly said:"It's so ugly." Huh??
It quite sensibly uses the space over the lens to store the flash. Thank goodness it doesn't have the "fake pentaprism" bulb on the top. Fuji and Sony put their viewfinder too close to the lens mount to use this space, and Olympus "glue a square to a triangle" is just idiotic.
The grip actually makes sense. Its almost like someone studied ergonomics. News flash camera makers, when the buttons are on top the fingers don't curl around the front of the camera, they angle forward. The major flaw I see here is the front control wheel (yay, it's continuous instead of recessed!) is too close to the grip.
AF assist lamp is on the left, where the fingers aren't. Camera makers get this wrong all the time.
Flash it out of the way of the hot shoe. I wonder if it's high enough to not be obscured by the fully-extended lens. Hopefully.
Threaded front of lens! Yay!
Locking mode dial. Nice.
Exposure comp dial is recessed. So many cameras get this wrong.
Back is cramped. Small camera, but really cramped. Would have liked a levered drive ring under the mode dial.
Missing the image sensor plane mark.
Fully side-articulating LCD. None of the tilt crap.
One hopes the tripod mount is center-mounted (wtf Fuji?) and that the card slot is side entered (probably not, probably just sockets under a door).
Look at those enormous microphone slots next to the viewfinder.
Speaker on the left...should be on the back. The viewfinder is between the user and the microphone for playback.
Manual flash. Literally pull it up to use. Interesting choice. Saves on pointlessly spring loaded flashes I suppose, but I guess I still want one.
I agree with many of your points, esp the exp dial (on my Pen F it's my biggest gripe)
PureClassA said:I dont see why some find this "ugly". It's not to your taste perhaps but Canon making a modern version of their classic A1 and F1 (which I still own 35 years later) is what this looks like to me. I really like the body style and the camera specs overall. I just get nauseous at the price tag at this moment.
PureClassA said:I dont see why some find this "ugly". It's not to your taste perhaps but Canon making a modern version of their classic A1 and F1 (which I still own 35 years later) is what this looks like to me. I really like the body style and the camera specs overall. I just get nauseous at the price tag at this moment.
ablearcher said:Talys said:ablearcher said:It is October 2017 and one will have a hard time finding a new TV on sale with 1080p resolution.
While 4k prices have certainly come down, this statement is just not true.
For me, it's more like... it's October 2017, and there still isn't enough 4k content that I'm interested in watching to make a 4k TV upgrade worthwhile. I have fiber to my home with available 4k, yet the only content is some sports stuff that I have no interest in, and House of Cards if I'm willing to pay more money each year.
Well, its been a while I saw a large screen on sale with 1080p. In any event, look me in the eye and tell me that you would consider buying a 1080p TV if you were buying a new TV today. As for the content - well this is why having a 4K camera is important for me, especially if I'm planning to take it along for travel. This is how you will CREATE the content for the new 4K screen. Also, quite a number of new movies are coming out in 4K discs these days. 1080p was fine but seriously - this is the past and not worth the investment at the moment. Just my opinion, of course.
AvTvM said:Normalnorm said:For me the key is the leaf shutter. This is the first camera since the Leica X-Vario to have an APS-C sensor, a leaf shutter and a 24-70 zoom. In the case of the Leica the superb, but even slower, lens was attached to a body with no EVF and only 16 MP.
lef shutter - missed this . is it conformed in specs or you just assume because of G1X I and II ? What X-sync does it have?
Normalnorm said:AvTvM said:Normalnorm said:For me the key is the leaf shutter. This is the first camera since the Leica X-Vario to have an APS-C sensor, a leaf shutter and a 24-70 zoom. In the case of the Leica the superb, but even slower, lens was attached to a body with no EVF and only 16 MP.
lef shutter - missed this . is it conformed in specs or you just assume because of G1X I and II ? What X-sync does it have?
I am assuming it is a leaf shutter as a FP shutter is needed for interchangeable lenses. They are bulkier, noisier and have limited sync so the leaf shutter would be the inexpensive way to implement a shutter.
The maximum sync would be the maximum speed of the shutter. I don't know what that amy be but as the max sync /shutter speed on the x-100F is 1/2000 sec I would bet on that.
Nope. FP shutters were created in the 19th century to achieve high speeds unavailable with competing in-lens shutters of the time.okaro said:Normalnorm said:AvTvM said:Normalnorm said:For me the key is the leaf shutter. This is the first camera since the Leica X-Vario to have an APS-C sensor, a leaf shutter and a 24-70 zoom. In the case of the Leica the superb, but even slower, lens was attached to a body with no EVF and only 16 MP.
lef shutter - missed this . is it conformed in specs or you just assume because of G1X I and II ? What X-sync does it have?
I am assuming it is a leaf shutter as a FP shutter is needed for interchangeable lenses. They are bulkier, noisier and have limited sync so the leaf shutter would be the inexpensive way to implement a shutter.
The maximum sync would be the maximum speed of the shutter. I don't know what that amy be but as the max sync /shutter speed on the x-100F is 1/2000 sec I would bet on that.
One needed FP shutter with film. In digicameras one could put a leaf shutter in every lens instead if one started from scratch.
scyrene said:ablearcher said:Talys said:ablearcher said:It is October 2017 and one will have a hard time finding a new TV on sale with 1080p resolution.
While 4k prices have certainly come down, this statement is just not true.
For me, it's more like... it's October 2017, and there still isn't enough 4k content that I'm interested in watching to make a 4k TV upgrade worthwhile. I have fiber to my home with available 4k, yet the only content is some sports stuff that I have no interest in, and House of Cards if I'm willing to pay more money each year.
Well, its been a while I saw a large screen on sale with 1080p. In any event, look me in the eye and tell me that you would consider buying a 1080p TV if you were buying a new TV today. As for the content - well this is why having a 4K camera is important for me, especially if I'm planning to take it along for travel. This is how you will CREATE the content for the new 4K screen. Also, quite a number of new movies are coming out in 4K discs these days. 1080p was fine but seriously - this is the past and not worth the investment at the moment. Just my opinion, of course.
I bought a tv a couple of weeks ago and it wasn't 4K, because I wanted a cheap option and there is essentially no 4K content available at present in the UK even now. No point spending more for something I'm not able to use. And shopping around, plenty of lower res tvs are still on sale, even "HD ready", which I think means 720p? Not everyone wants or needs the highest spec devices, or can even tell the difference.
And how many people buying a small compact camera are creating, or wanting to create 4K content - and how many are actually going to use their tv to enjoy it? I'd bet they are a tiny minority.
Normalnorm said:Nope. FP shutters were created in the 19th century to achieve high speeds unavailable with competing in-lens shutters of the time.
Leitz used a FP shutter in its 35mm cameras to allow easy interchangeability of lenses and lower cost.
Flash sync was not an issue until the advent of electronic flash where the flash was so brief that it could only expose properly at speeds that did not use a traveling slit.
Leaf shutters were used in view camera lenses, simple cameras such as Brownie's and even enthusiast amateur cameras such as Yashica, Canon and Argus. Hasselblad and Rollei were premium cameras that used leaf shutters. While Rollei had fixed lenses in their Rolleiflexes, Hasselblad adopted leaf shutters in their classic 500C designs.
Digital has nothing to do with whether a camera will use a leaf or focal plane shutter. Lower cost, fixed lens cameras use leaf shutters while interchangeable lens cameras (with very few exceptions) use focal plane shutters.
Incorporating leaf shutters into each lens for an interchangeable lens system has a lot of drawbacks. The lenses are bulkier, more expensive and can have lens to lens speed variations. More importantly, if you have a shutter failure (and they do fail more frequently than FP shutters) you lose the use of a lens that may be critical on a job. Witha system using an focal plane shutter you just switch bodies.