Would it be possible for a Canon to make a camera body, about the same size as the RP, with interchangeable mounts, both R and M? Would anybody care to make a guess how much such a feature would add to the price of the body?
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Interchangeable mount?How would that work withought an adapter? I hope they could make an adapter that moves the smaller lenses 2mm into the mount, but I honestly don't know if they can.
It doesn't matter how small they make an APS-C RF mount body if the lenses don't get correspondingly smaller. I do not see how that works by just making only full frame lenses. The only way this makes any kind of sense is if we get lenses that are comparable in size and price to EF-M lenses. If it's Canons intent to move away from the very small and light camera system, I disagree wholeheartedly with this strategy.
except one small point.It's not as bad as it seems:
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Left: M50II + EFM 32 f/1.4 ($699 + $479 = $1178) | Right: RP + RF 50 f/1.8 ($999 + $199 = $1198) (recent RP refurbished deal was at $687)
except one small point.
the 32mm F1.4 can outresolve the 32MP APS-C sensor, and is sharp wide open corner to corner. which is the equivalent of 80MP on full frame.
The 50mm F.18? not so much.
also, there are millions of M's out there - to drop the mount with no ability to move to the RF mount alienates users and they can all easily decide to switch to an APS-C camera that actually has APS-C lenses made for it. which most would.
I mean, i get the fact that Canon is probably NOT putting resources on the M, but to actively kill it? no, sorry. Canon's not this stupid.
Well, we really don't know what the margins are for the M series, so it isn't necessarily a "cash cow". Canon seems to believe there is more cash to be made through ASP-C R cameras. Canon is trading one cow for a better cow, maybe? Might not can afford to feed both.The M50 is still the best selling mirrorless camera on Amazon, will they really kill this cash cow? If they will go for it they have to release a 600-700$ RF camera, or this slice of the market will go to the competition
Agreed. I am curious whether some would lean towards crop with the better lens, or RP with full frame IQ and better ergonomics, but size and price would be a negligible factor in this comparison, which is kind of the point.
No we won't. If they kill off the EF-M line, its just more fuel to go to Fuji or Sony.I love the idea of cheaper lenses that are meant for APS-C, but will also work on a full frame body. Having two mirrorless mounts is way too disjointed when their competitors all have one mount. And all those people buying the M50 will just buy the R mount equivalent now. It seems like a perfect time to bring in their now legendary Rebel product line.
Just relax. You know you're all going to get one
Yes I still believe so. That's a very specific case. A more appropriate comparison would be the larger RF 35mm which would at least give the same field of view on whatever future APS-C RF body is supposed to come out. When the lens gets longer for telephoto or UWA, that girth adds up. At least for me it's very noticeable.It's not as bad as it seems:
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Left: M50II + EFM 32 f/1.4 ($699 + $479 = $1178) | Right: RP + RF 50 f/1.8 ($999 + $199 = $1198) (recent RP refurbished deal was at $687)
Look carefully at the above and tell me if the size and price differences are worth dedicating an entire system for.
umm no.Companies leave legacy users in the dust all the time, and Canon's crystal ball can see further into the future than we can. Canon does not use the "Amazon top seller" financial model when deciding which products to put R&D into. I bet their analysis heavily considers statistical trends, not just what is currently valuable. Their model is likely seeing a downwards trend in the M mount and a consistent upwards trend in the R mount. This is probably based on months or years worth of data.
I mean, i get the fact that Canon is probably NOT putting resources on the M, but to actively kill it? no, sorry. Canon's not this stupid.
Magic. Or 21st century engineering.How would that work withought an adapter?
sorry it's an idiotic idea.I love the idea of cheaper lenses that are meant for APS-C, but will also work on a full frame body.
that means to me, that they discontinue and it goes into EOL.That's a key distinction. Continue to sell it without developing new lenses, is to some people tantamount to "killing" it. (Look at all of those who talk about this mount being "dead" simply because Canon isn't throwing more lenses out there.) But your EF-M camera and lenses don't disappear when this happens, and Canon could continue selling them for another ten years. They won't get worse, and the target market mostly won't care. And the M6-II will still be vastly superior to any Rebel (four digit true model number) made for years, and likely even the three digit models for a couple of years (assuming of course they go down that path).
Actually discontinuing production, on the other hand, would be "killing" it by anyone's definition of the term. The rumor simply says "2021 will be the last year of the lineup..." but what does that actually mean in terms of being able to buy one of the existing models at retail?