More Canon EOS M5 Images & Specifications

rrcphoto said:
Images of the 18-150mm

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appears shorter than the 55-200 (edit nope, same size)

I actually liked the size of the 55-200 EF-M on the M3 .. so I'm thinking this just may be a great walkaround. combine this and the 11-22 and you have a pretty mighty little travel package.
Looks nice. They have their own design theme. 11-22mm, 18-150mm and 22mm will cover lot of situations. Size wise, carrying them all is doable.
 
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pokerz said:
Any Zoom lock?
Is it weather sealed?

Zoom lock: on a plastic lens with low mass? Not seeing the need.

Weather sealing... again, on a plastic lens for $300? This lens doesn't even have USM focusing and possibly not FTM mechanical focusing, which is usually the 'middle' trimline in a budget/premium/L trio of lenses. So this, like every lens in the EF-M mount that Canon offers, is a budget lens for (what is presently) a budget system.

Put another way: this economy car has a 4 gear transmission... and you're effectively asking where the paddle shifters are to get to 7th gear. :D

- A
 
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nads said:
Hector1970 said:
Just before this announcement I unfortunately (or maybe fortunately we'll see) went for an Olympus mirror less camera. I wanted something compact for travel and to have with me in the car at all times.
I wasn't convinced of Canons commitment to mirror less. The didn't show ambition in this area.
I considered cancelling my order when this news broke but Ice stuck with my decision.
Why - Funny reasoning maybe but Olympus and Panasonic gave a number of very good small and fast prime lens for the 4/3 system.
Maybe Canon will some day achieve the same but it will take some time (if they are really committed). Yes you can buy an adapter but I'm looking for a smallish and lightish kit.
Time will tell if I've made a mistake but I don't think I have.
I'm not expecting brilliant quality. Good quality will do me. It's more about the flexibility to take good photographs and not be so concerned about ultimate image quality/ pixel peeping. I think some of the functions being added to cameras are bordering on superfluous.

I tried that twice. First with an early PEN and 2nd with the E-M10. Hated them both. Image quality didn't blow me away and AF Accuracy SUCKED! Say what you will about the original EOS-M's slow AF... sure it was slow as heck. But when that thing locked in focus in face detect mode it nailed it reliably. The E-M10 was lightning quick and responsive as heck... super efficient at catching images that weren't quite in focus. Took a bath twice selling those things!

The smallish, lightweight kit is another gripe for me. The 11-22 is a favorite for me, especially when traveling. With micro four thirds I had to go bigger to get the 7-14 and spend a lot more.

I might update when I get the camera and lens and see what the Olympus system is like. 24mm equivalent is generally wide enough for when travelling. I do like the 16-35mm F4 IS myself. It's one of the issues with micro 4/3 which I am prepared to live with for the compact size (ie the lack of extreme wide angle lens).
It will be interesting how big the M5 system will be. It looks big in the pictures but that may be just it's styling. If there were rumors of some great fast primes lens in the pipeline I might have reversed my Olympus decision. They may come in time.
Not sure if micro 4/3 will stand the test of time. I guess it depends on what they can compact into a small sensor.
 
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Hector1970 said:
nads said:
Hector1970 said:
Just before this announcement I unfortunately (or maybe fortunately we'll see) went for an Olympus mirror less camera. I wanted something compact for travel and to have with me in the car at all times.
I wasn't convinced of Canons commitment to mirror less. The didn't show ambition in this area.
I considered cancelling my order when this news broke but Ice stuck with my decision.
Why - Funny reasoning maybe but Olympus and Panasonic gave a number of very good small and fast prime lens for the 4/3 system.
Maybe Canon will some day achieve the same but it will take some time (if they are really committed). Yes you can buy an adapter but I'm looking for a smallish and lightish kit.
Time will tell if I've made a mistake but I don't think I have.
I'm not expecting brilliant quality. Good quality will do me. It's more about the flexibility to take good photographs and not be so concerned about ultimate image quality/ pixel peeping. I think some of the functions being added to cameras are bordering on superfluous.

I tried that twice. First with an early PEN and 2nd with the E-M10. Hated them both. Image quality didn't blow me away and AF Accuracy SUCKED! Say what you will about the original EOS-M's slow AF... sure it was slow as heck. But when that thing locked in focus in face detect mode it nailed it reliably. The E-M10 was lightning quick and responsive as heck... super efficient at catching images that weren't quite in focus. Took a bath twice selling those things!

The smallish, lightweight kit is another gripe for me. The 11-22 is a favorite for me, especially when traveling. With micro four thirds I had to go bigger to get the 7-14 and spend a lot more.

I might update when I get the camera and lens and see what the Olympus system is like. 24mm equivalent is generally wide enough for when travelling. I do like the 16-35mm F4 IS myself. It's one of the issues with micro 4/3 which I am prepared to live with for the compact size (ie the lack of extreme wide angle lens).
It will be interesting how big the M5 system will be. It looks big in the pictures but that may be just it's styling. If there were rumors of some great fast primes lens in the pipeline I might have reversed my Olympus decision. They may come in time.
Not sure if micro 4/3 will stand the test of time. I guess it depends on what they can compact into a small sensor.

Along with my Canon, I own an Olympus E-M1. If that's what you got, you won't be disappointed. I use it far more than my 6D due to its smaller size and compactness. The higher end Olympus lenses are very high quality. Yes, it's a smaller sensor, but the only time I notice any difference between that and my Canon is in low light situations.
 
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Rumours seems to be confirmed now

EOS M5
- Sensor: Effective pixels 24.2 million pixels (the total number of pixels 25.8 million pixels) APS-C CMOS
- Dual Pixel CMOS AF
- The video engine: DIGIC 7
- ISO Sensitivity: 100-25600
- Shutter speed: 1 / 4000-30 seconds
- The maximum flash synchro shutter speed 1/200 sec
- Continuous shooting: up to about 9 frames / sec., About 7 frames / sec (at the time of AF follow-up?)
- Video: Full HD 60p, 5-axis electronic image stabilization
- EVF: 236 Man dot
- Monitor: 3.2 inches 1.62 million dot touch panel movable LCD
- Wireless: Wi-Fi (IEEE 802.11b / g / n), Bluetooth (4.1)
- Battery: LP-E17
- Media: SD / SDHC / SDXC card (UHS-I compatible)
- Size (width x height x depth): 115.6 x 89.2 x 60.6 mm
- Weight: about 380g (body only), 427g (including battery · SD card)

(source Digicame )
 
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Plus a new clear picture of the backside. Shame that there's no room for Menu and Info on the left shoulder like (finally) in all the DSLR models.

Interesting that they brought the 1D/5D 1.6MP back LCD to the M5. I'm a bit jelly now with my 80D.

Same LP-17 battery as the M3, that's too bad.

Remains to be seen what's the difference between the 7fps and 9fps modes - AF tracking and/or electronic shutter?

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Sharlin said:
Plus a new clear picture of the backside. Shame that there's no room for Menu and Info on the left shoulder like (finally) in all the DSLR models.

Interesting that they brought the 1D/5D 1.6MP back LCD to the M5. I'm a bit jelly now with my 80D.

Same LP-17 battery as the M3, that's too bad.

Yes, the bigger, higher res screen looks good. I want to know what the magnification is on the EVF though. Hope its not tiny...
Agreed, the same battery looks bad... At least they are small and you can carry a bunch with you
 
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lw said:
Sharlin said:
Plus a new clear picture of the backside. Shame that there's no room for Menu and Info on the left shoulder like (finally) in all the DSLR models.

Interesting that they brought the 1D/5D 1.6MP back LCD to the M5. I'm a bit jelly now with my 80D.

Same LP-17 battery as the M3, that's too bad.

Yes, the bigger, higher res screen looks good. I want to know what the magnification is on the EVF though. Hope its not tiny...
Agreed, the same battery looks bad... At least they are small and you can carry a bunch with you
will it compete with XT1 huge EVF or A6300 high res EVF? :D
 
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pokerz said:
lw said:
Sharlin said:
Plus a new clear picture of the backside. Shame that there's no room for Menu and Info on the left shoulder like (finally) in all the DSLR models.

Interesting that they brought the 1D/5D 1.6MP back LCD to the M5. I'm a bit jelly now with my 80D.

Same LP-17 battery as the M3, that's too bad.

Yes, the bigger, higher res screen looks good. I want to know what the magnification is on the EVF though. Hope its not tiny...
Agreed, the same battery looks bad... At least they are small and you can carry a bunch with you
will it compete with XT1 huge EVF or A6300 high res EVF? :D

I have the same as the A6300 in my RX10 - 0.7x magnification.
0.77x of the XT1/2 would be fantastic, but 0.7x is fine.
Anything less though, gets the thumbs down...
 
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lw said:
Rumours seems to be confirmed now

EOS M5
- Sensor: Effective pixels 24.2 million pixels (the total number of pixels 25.8 million pixels) APS-C CMOS
- Dual Pixel CMOS AF
- The video engine: DIGIC 7
- ISO Sensitivity: 100-25600
- Shutter speed: 1 / 4000-30 seconds
- The maximum flash synchro shutter speed 1/200 sec
- Continuous shooting: up to about 9 frames / sec., About 7 frames / sec (at the time of AF follow-up?)
- Video: Full HD 60p, 5-axis electronic image stabilization
- EVF: 236 Man dot
- Monitor: 3.2 inches 1.62 million dot touch panel movable LCD
- Wireless: Wi-Fi (IEEE 802.11b / g / n), Bluetooth (4.1)
- Battery: LP-E17
- Media: SD / SDHC / SDXC card (UHS-I compatible)
- Size (width x height x depth): 115.6 x 89.2 x 60.6 mm
- Weight: about 380g (body only), 427g (including battery · SD card)

(source Digicame )
No 1/8000 sec shutter speed. is flash commander included ?
 
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Sharlin said:
ritholtz said:
No 1/8000 sec shutter speed. is flash commander included ?

Fortunately the native EF-M lenses are so slow that you never need such a fast shutter speed ;)

(* yes, I know, the 22mm f/2 is an exception.)

There might be some additional native exceptions around, like the Mitakon Speedmaster 35mm f/0.95 Mark II, which happens to be the fastest of them all.
 
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