More Detailed Specifications for the Canon EOS 6D Mark II

[NorbR]

Is there a camera that does HDR in raw format? If it is HDR then it is not a raw file

No, but there are cameras that let you keep your bracketed exposures, including in RAW format, and give you the in-camera HDR image on top of that. The original 6D doesn't do that. You need to switch to JPG altogether, and you don't even get to keep the bracketed exposures. Just the one JPG. Apparently the Mark II works the same way.

Gotcha. Thanks for explaining it.
Surely for a complex processing like HDR it is always best on a computer anyway? So as Don says, auto bracket and process in post.

Agreed. I never use it myself for that very reason.
But at least with the more elaborate version, you don't lose anything. You get the in-camera HDR; if you like it, good, and if you don't, you have your RAW files to post process to your liking.

 

[Loswr]

Is there a camera that does HDR in raw format? I f it is HDR then it is not a raw file

My 1D X doesn't even do in-camera HDR with JPG. I think Canon nerfed it to protect sales of the 6D.

 

[Jack Douglas]

Now the manual is out, there are not too many questions that aren't answered other than its real life performance. It sure has a lot of automatic features (scenes) for the person who doesn't wish to understand what's behind it all. Button programmability is minimal and it looks like the buttons that can do AF do not allow any AF options, i.e. I would have liked to have the shutter and AF-ON cause different AF cases, but not a big deal.

Funny how we hear camera X is too big/too small. My adult daughter was shooting with me and I asked how big her hand was and passed the 1DX2 - she couldn't possibly use it with shutter and BB focus. The 6D2 might even seem big. Just a reminder that what's great for one may not be for another.

Jack

 

[Sharlin]

Button programmability is minimal and it looks like the buttons that can do AF do not allow any AF options, i.e. I would have liked to have the shutter and AF-ON cause different AF cases, but not a big deal.

The custom controls settings seem identical to those in the 80D, which is not a surprise. Also like the 80D, there are no predefined AF cases but the AF parameters can be tuned via Custom Functions.

 

[Jack Douglas]

Every "new camera" thread puts me back to 1971. "They're only putting in a nickel but they want a dollar song" She could have been a psychologist.

Every one of these threads should start with: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAGeVtLOsYo

Well you know that I'm not a gambler / But I'm being gambled on / They put in a nickel and I sing a little song / Da-da-da-da

Jack

 

[Alejandro]

Digic 7 is more than enough to handle 4K. We'll just have to wait a year for a ML release. (Or maybe a firmware release).

 

[BeenThere]

HDR video is an interesting feature. Combines a normal frame width one 2 stops underexposed for an HDR composit (processed in camera). 80D may have it too?

 

[Khalai]

Digic 7 is more than enough to handle 4K. We'll just have to wait a year for a ML release. (Or maybe a firmware release).

I would not put my hopes on that. They may very well be insufficient cooling, which could lead to sensor overheating. It's much easier to cool smaller sensor area than fullframe. I agree, that many people would like to see 4K in this camera (as even affordable Fuji X-T20 has it), but it's not without some compromises. Canon probably decided that additional cooling and circuitry needed for 4K is not efficient for this kind of camera. Or they are simply protecting 5D IV, who knows...

 

[Sharlin]

Digic 7 is more than enough to handle 4K. We'll just have to wait a year for a ML release.

A year? I seriously doubt it. The DIGIC 6 architecture seems to differ substantially from its predecessors and there are no ML builds for any DIGIC 6 cameras, not even work-in-progress ones. Never mind DIGIC7... All the bodies for which ML is available are at least four years old.

 

[Don Haines]

Digic 7 is more than enough to handle 4K. We'll just have to wait a year for a ML release. (Or maybe a firmware release).

So let's say that all that is needed to run 4K on this camera is software...... Don't you think that Canon would have done this already? Sure, there might be a small hit of 5D4 sales as a few people decide to get the 6D2 instead of the 5D4, but what about all the customers attracted from Nikon or Sony? This would be a net gain for Canon and they are smart enough to know it....

Overheating seems like the most likely reason to exclude it....

 

[dak723]

Digic 7 is more than enough to handle 4K. We'll just have to wait a year for a ML release. (Or maybe a firmware release).

Overheating seems like the most likely reason to exclude it....

Why bother trying to explain. The 4K crowd doesn't care about facts or about the technical challenges of implementing 4K. They just want to whine like little babies.

 

[tron]

Digic 7 is more than enough to handle 4K. We'll just have to wait a year for a ML release. (Or maybe a firmware release).

Overheating seems like the most likely reason to exclude it....

Why bother trying to explain. The 4K crowd doesn't care about facts or about the technical challenges of implementing 4K. They just want to whine like little babies.

One thing is for sure: ML will certainly not help with 4K raw video due to max card write speeds.

 

[Khalai]

Digic 7 is more than enough to handle 4K. We'll just have to wait a year for a ML release. (Or maybe a firmware release).

Overheating seems like the most likely reason to exclude it....

Why bother trying to explain. The 4K crowd doesn't care about facts or about the technical challenges of implementing 4K. They just want to whine like little babies.

One thing is for sure: ML will certainly not help with 4K raw video due to max card write speeds.

Would theoretically HDMI output to external recorder be able to acquire 4K? All other things aside of course...

 

[tron]

Digic 7 is more than enough to handle 4K. We'll just have to wait a year for a ML release. (Or maybe a firmware release).

Overheating seems like the most likely reason to exclude it....

Why bother trying to explain. The 4K crowd doesn't care about facts or about the technical challenges of implementing 4K. They just want to whine like little babies.

One thing is for sure: ML will certainly not help with 4K raw video due to max card write speeds.

Would theoretically HDMI output to external recorder be able to acquire 4K? All other things aside of course...

You will have to ask them! But have they achieved something similar in 5D3? I think not...

 

[Sharlin]

Would theoretically HDMI output to external recorder be able to acquire 4K? All other things aside of course...

I don't think the HDMI output (probably version 1.2) supports 4K resolution... And the camera's internal bus most likely doesn't have enough throughput either.

 

[Loswr]

Digic 7 is more than enough to handle 4K. We'll just have to wait a year for a ML release. (Or maybe a firmware release).

Overheating seems like the most likely reason to exclude it....

Why bother trying to explain. The 4K crowd doesn't care about facts or about the technical challenges of implementing 4K. They just want to whine like little babies.

But...MY iPHONE SHOOTS 4K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.....

 

[hangtime]

So I found this chart which compares Canon's full-frame cameras:

https://prophotoblog.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Canon-EOS-Full-Frame-Comparison-Chart.pdf

It looks official enough, although the link to the same PDF on the Canon site doesn't work for some reason so I can't be sure.

Anyway, the fourth row of the specs chart is "Low pass filter cancellation effect" and for the 5DS/5DS-R it says "Yes (for 5DS R only)" as expected. But under the 6D II it says "Yes" as well. I found this unexpected - has anyone else commented on this? I haven't read all the discussions, or the manual, so perhaps I'm just out of the loop. If this is indeed correct it might change the math a bit on the value of upgrading to the 6DII, particularly for landscape shooters.

 

[Khalai]

So I found this chart which compares Canon's full-frame cameras:

https://prophotoblog.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Canon-EOS-Full-Frame-Comparison-Chart.pdf

It looks official enough, although the link to the same PDF on the Canon site doesn't work for some reason so I can't be sure.

Anyway, the fourth row of the specs chart is "Low pass filter cancellation effect" and for the 5DS/5DS-R it says "Yes (for 5DS R only)" as expected. But under the 6D II it says "Yes" as well. I found this unexpected - has anyone else commented on this? I haven't read all the discussions, or the manual, so perhaps I'm just out of the loop. If this is indeed correct it might change the math a bit on the value of upgrading to the 6DII, particularly for landscape shooters.

Interesting catch. If 6D II is indeed with either very weak AA or completely AA-less, that would be very beneficial for many people. Then again not very beneficial for videofolk, but since 4K party is already shopping for torches and pitchforks...

What is rather weird is that Canon did not emphasize any AA-less features in any of the marketing materials. One would think they will try to exploit such feature to appeal a certain niche of potential customers.

 

[Loswr]

So I found this chart which compares Canon's full-frame cameras:

https://prophotoblog.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Canon-EOS-Full-Frame-Comparison-Chart.pdf

It looks official enough, although the link to the same PDF on the Canon site doesn't work for some reason so I can't be sure.

Anyway, the fourth row of the specs chart is "Low pass filter cancellation effect" and for the 5DS/5DS-R it says "Yes (for 5DS R only)" as expected. But under the 6D II it says "Yes" as well. I found this unexpected - has anyone else commented on this? I haven't read all the discussions, or the manual, so perhaps I'm just out of the loop. If this is indeed correct it might change the math a bit on the value of upgrading to the 6DII, particularly for landscape shooters.

Interesting. However, Canon's tech-mouthpiece, Rudy Winston, states that the 6DII has an AA filter.

[quote author=Rudy Winston / Canon DLC]
Diffraction Correction is built-in (can be turned on or off, on camera’s menu). Added sharpening applied to counter both the effects of lens softening at small apertures which are common in landscape shooting (f/16, f/22, etc.), as well as providing specific sharpening to counter the softening effect of the low-pass filter immediately in front of the EOS 6D Mark II’s image sensor (when shooting at wider apertures).
[/quote]

That's backed up by the 6DII manual in a couple of places.

 

[ahsanford]

So I found this chart which compares Canon's full-frame cameras:

https://prophotoblog.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Canon-EOS-Full-Frame-Comparison-Chart.pdf

It looks official enough, although the link to the same PDF on the Canon site doesn't work for some reason so I can't be sure.

Anyway, the fourth row of the specs chart is "Low pass filter cancellation effect" and for the 5DS/5DS-R it says "Yes (for 5DS R only)" as expected. But under the 6D II it says "Yes" as well. I found this unexpected - has anyone else commented on this? I haven't read all the discussions, or the manual, so perhaps I'm just out of the loop. If this is indeed correct it might change the math a bit on the value of upgrading to the 6DII, particularly for landscape shooters.

The LP filter is physically still there according to the manual, but a cancellation effect (or even the word cancellation) is nowhere to be found in the manual.

- A