Possibility of EOS M Announcement at CP+? [CR1]

[Loswr]

The M1 drove me crazy. I want a mode dial, three control dials, viewfinder and the ability to turn off the touch screen and never use it again.

It's obvious just by looking at pictures of the EOS M on the Internet that it lacks many of those features. Why did you buy one?

It was cheaper than buying the 20 mm pancake lens for my Sony. I loved the 22mm f2 lens. I could not stand the camera. I am now thinking that moving to m4/3 for a compact system camera seems like better idea. They have improved a lot in the last 4 years.

Yes, the 22/2 is very nice. There are things I don't like about the M system, but for my main criterion of largest sensor in most portable kit, it fits the bill very well.

 

[Alastair Norcross]

I love my M with 22 pancake (and with 11-22). It's small, but really high quality. The AF isn't lightning fast, but I don't use it for sports, so I don't care. I've never understood all the whining about the M. The touchscreen is really well implemented, and the build quality is great. It was also really cheap. I'll certainly be interested in an M4, but I don't need it. If I get it, it will be pure self-indulgence.

 

[tcmatthews]

I love my M with 22 pancake (and with 11-22). It's small, but really high quality. The AF isn't lightning fast, but I don't use it for sports, so I don't care. I've never understood all the whining about the M. The touchscreen is really well implemented, and the build quality is great. It was also really cheap. I'll certainly be interested in an M4, but I don't need it. If I get it, it will be pure self-indulgence.

And that I think is the real issue. There are photographers that want a touchscreen and those that don't. I do not really want a touchscreen on my camera. I have always felt the touch screen implementation in Canon cameras is an abomination. If it has a touchscreen I want the ability to turn it off and still have full use of the camera.

There is also the problem of availability. Nobody around me caries anything EOS M. I can go to the local Best Buy only 2 miles away and check out all the Sony E mount cameras. They also have popular m4/3 and a few Fujifilm cameras. Nobody in the USA even knows the EOS M line exists unless they are a Canon enthusiasts.

Until Canon US wants to support the EOS M completely it will be nothing but a me too camera. The problem is we all know that Canon can produce a camera better than any of their current efforts. But they seem unwilling.

I came to the conclusion that Canon is going to have to release a Camera so go that I want to sell all my Sony E mount gear. They would have to release a camera better than any of their current Rebel cameras something on par with a 70D.

I do not see that happening.

 

[Luds34]

The M + 22mm is pretty tough to beat if one is going for the ultimate, compact kit while still having a good size sensor. But other then that, the M line is pretty lacking. I did end up going Fuji for my compact kit and have been quite satisfied. Only complaint, is while the Fuji glass is pretty awesome optically, it can be quite pricey!

+1. I got the original M with the 22 f/2 and added the other EF-M lenses (and the M3) over time, but the 22 f/2 is used the most -- nearly half the time. I used it the most when my DSLR was being serviced. The Ms could be more responsive and the native lenses are slow, but it's an ultracompact kit. I also got them at good prices, so I don't mind leaving it in an unattended jacket, etc.

Absolutely. I like to call the M + 22mm "winter pocketable". It isn't too bulky or heavy that I can easily zip it up on the inside pocket of my winter jacket. This has worked out numerous times where I'm out in the evening, have zero desire to carry a dedicated bag, but would love to have a camera with.

 

[Luds34]

This thread is a funny read so far. So many people are "dumping brand X and going to brand Y" every six months! Sales should be booming.

Question: are you sure that your camera's features are what's holding you back? Will 5% faster AF, or an extra 0.3 stops dynamic range really make you happy? Honest answers only please.

As for myself, I like the M1 and M3 for what they are. Small, light, cheap, incredibly sturdy, with great photo qualities (if you like Canon's colours, many do), and good video. I don't expect them to act like SLRs, because I've got SLRs. I don't want them to have the longest specs sheets, because I know from experience that will detract from operational coherence (making it harder to do what I really want, namely take pictures and make videos).

The M1 drove me crazy. I want a mode dial, three control dials, viewfinder and the ability to turn off the touch screen and never use it again.

Yep, it's amazing what a few key dials, buttons will do for your shooting experience. Shooting the M in manual was such a pain as half the time I didn't know if I was adjusting shutter or aperture. And the lack of an EVF, I just don't like the cell phone style shooting of holding a camera 3 feet from my body.

 

[Don Haines]

EOS-M.........

70D sensor......
Touchscreen......
WiFi.......
SD UHS-II card slot.....

Would sell well.....

 

[Loswr]

EOS-M.........

70D sensor......
Touchscreen......
WiFi.......
SD UHS-II card slot.....

Would sell well.....

Possibly even as well as most MILCs out there.....

Oh, wait.....

 

[Don Haines]

EOS-M.........

70D sensor......
Touchscreen......
WiFi.......
SD UHS-II card slot.....

Would sell well.....

Possibly even as well as most MILCs out there.....

Oh, wait.....

There is a distinct difference between "would sell well" and would sell as well as the better selling DSLRs.... The Olympus cameras sell well..... Sony sells well..... But Nikon and Canon sell great....

And yes, I think a well specked M might sell as well as most MILCs out there.... It might be a smaller sized market, but if they chose to compete in it, then obviously Canon must regard it as a market worth competing in.

 

[tcmatthews]

EOS-M.........

70D sensor......
Touchscreen......
WiFi.......
SD UHS-II card slot.....

Would sell well.....

No it would only sell well if they actually got it into the mass market retail alongside the Rebels. Mass market retailers are sometimes reluctant to put products that have historically not sold well until deeply discounted.

I think Canon missed the boat. I think it would be better if Canon build a full frame EOS M and get on the full frame mirrorless before Sony takes that boat out of port. If they could make the mounts compatible they could use the APCs EOS M as an entry point just like the rebels.

 

[Loswr]

I think it would be better if Canon build a full frame EOS M and get on the full frame mirrorless before Sony takes that boat dinghy out of port.

Fixed that for you.