Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

ahsanford said:
On another thread, Matthias shrewdly noted one last 'got it' vs. 'got nerfed' tell on something we've not seen on specs lists yet.

If the top LCD photo represents the limits of the camera, the max shutter speed is 1/4000.

- A
why would you say it's nerfed. it was the same on the 6D.
The shutter and mechanical mechanisms between the 5D III and the 6D were night and day different.
 
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Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

rrcphoto said:
ahsanford said:
On another thread, Matthias shrewdly noted one last 'got it' vs. 'got nerfed' tell on something we've not seen on specs lists yet.

If the top LCD photo represents the limits of the camera, the max shutter speed is 1/4000.

- A
why would you say it's nerfed. it was the same on the 6D.

the shutter and mechanical mechanisms between the 5D III and the 6D were night and day different.

Forgive me -- the line between comically deliberate nerfing and tuning the cost/margins is sometimes blurry. But in this case, I agree that a 1/4000 vs. 1/8000 FF shutter are different animals. 1/4000 is probably what it took to keep costs manageable.

I believe the D750 made the same decision for Nikon -- it got the upper end AF setup and 6.5 fps, but it didn't get the 1/8000 shutter.

- A
 
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Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

rrcphoto said:
unfocused said:
Microphone Jack, but not seeing a headphone jack. If true, that will give the video folks something to dislike.

hopefully a headphone jack that when in use screams this is a bloody stills camera, get a video camera

Yeah, yeah. But, honestly, if you are going to add special image stabilization for video, it does seem kind of petty to nerf the camera by not providing a headphone jack (even the 80D has a headphone jack). I'm not a video person and not a 6D customer, so it doesn't matter to me, but it just seems a little strange. (And, of course, I could be wrong about the headphone jack. I just can't see it on the images.)
 
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Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

http://www.nokis hita.com/canon-eos-6d-mark-ii-images-specifications/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=canon-eos-6d-mark-ii-images-specifications

Picture of the Canon EOS 6D markII

+ Optical image stabilization?? 5 Axis ( not only video )

Source Nokis hita
 
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Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

ahsanford said:
rrcphoto said:
ahsanford said:
On another thread, Matthias shrewdly noted one last 'got it' vs. 'got nerfed' tell on something we've not seen on specs lists yet.

If the top LCD photo represents the limits of the camera, the max shutter speed is 1/4000.

- A
why would you say it's nerfed. it was the same on the 6D.

the shutter and mechanical mechanisms between the 5D III and the 6D were night and day different.

Forgive me -- the line between comically deliberate nerfing and tuning the cost/margins is sometimes blurry.

sigh.

the mirrorbox assemblies were entirely different. your use of the term nerfing is insulting and argumentative.

6d:
Canon-6D-Review-Teardown-104-Mirrorbox-FixYourCamera-Org.jpg


5d Mark III:
Canon-5D-mkiii-Review-Teardown-095-Mirror-Box-FixYourCamera-Org.jpg


you wouldn't expect a camera that sells for 40% less and weighs 200g's or so less to have the same mechanical structures as well would you? where do you cut costs of manufacturing, parts,etc to make a profit off the camera?
 
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Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

rrcphoto said:
sigh.

the mirrorbox assemblies were entirely different. your use of the term nerfing is insulting and argumentative.

What part about "forgive me" and "I agree that a 1/4000 vs. 1/8000 FF shutter are different animals" did not read mea culpa to you?

I conceded the point -- some things are nerfed, some things absolutely cost more for a reason. The mirror box is the latter.

But everyone here recognizes I'm as insulting as a tail-wagging puppy on this forum. I just think you hate the word/usage of 'nerfing' far more than you believe I'm actually being insulting. But I could be wrong.

- A
 
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Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

ahsanford said:
rrcphoto said:
sigh.

the mirrorbox assemblies were entirely different. your use of the term nerfing is insulting and argumentative.

What part about "forgive me" and "I agree that a 1/4000 vs. 1/8000 FF shutter are different animals" did not read mea culpa to you?

I conceded the point -- some things are nerfed, some things absolutely cost more for a reason. The mirror box is the latter.

But everyone here recognizes I'm as insulting as a tail-wagging puppy on this forum. I just think you hate the word/usage of 'nerfing' far more than you believe I'm actually being insulting. But I could be wrong.

- A

apologies both ways. lack of sleep I'm irritable today.
 
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Point22 said:
http://www.nokis hita.com/canon-eos-6d-mark-ii-images-specifications/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=canon-eos-6d-mark-ii-images-specifications

Picture of the Canon EOS 6D markII

+ Optical image stabilization?? 5 Axis ( not only video )

Source Nokis hita

Sorry, no. There may be translation issues, but Canon's '5-axis' IS is lens-based for angular (pitch/yaw) and electronic for the other 3 axes (roll and XY shift).
 
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rrcphoto said:
apologies both ways. lack of sleep I'm irritable today.

Thanks. I was actually wondering if a friendly 'consider decaf' dig was in order :D because the above is not like you at all. Always appreciated your writing here.

- A
 
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Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

rrcphoto said:
neuroanatomist said:
Thus we can assume a slower than 1/200 s Xsync as well.

i'd imagine it's 1/180th to which the internet forums will collapse and go .. how can i live without 1/200th.

AFAIK original 6D do have 1/180th X-Sync right? But how can we all live w/o 1/500th X-Sync leaf shutter goodness? 8)
 
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Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

neuroanatomist said:
Khalai said:
But how can we all live w/o 1/500th X-Sync leaf shutter goodness? 8)

If you want 1/500 Xsync, you could go with the original 1D... :)

I will go with no less than 1/32000th X-Sync electronic global shutter, triple SD UHS-II slots (for RAID 5 configuration, you can never be too safe, right?), 999 AF points covering 95% of the whole frame (double X-type AF 11 of course), 24 EV DR sensor and no less than four joysticks around the body (fully programmable). Add a 999 USD price tag and I'm sold :-P
 
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Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

ahsanford said:
rrcphoto said:
sigh.

the mirrorbox assemblies were entirely different. your use of the term nerfing is insulting and argumentative.

What part about "forgive me" and "I agree that a 1/4000 vs. 1/8000 FF shutter are different animals" did not read mea culpa to you?

I conceded the point -- some things are nerfed, some things absolutely cost more for a reason. The mirror box is the latter.

But everyone here recognizes I'm as insulting as a tail-wagging puppy on this forum. I just think you hate the word/usage of 'nerfing' far more than you believe I'm actually being insulting. But I could be wrong.

- A

I think you're far overusing that word, and it makes me sad because until the 6D2 rumors started heating up I had you pegged as one of the more reasonable, intelligent members around here. When you call anything that isn't perfect "nerfed" though (even when you pose it as a question), you start to sound a lot more like K.

And it makes me sad, because my eyes have started involuntarily rolling when I see your avatar now instead of looking forward to what I'm about to read.
 
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Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

LonelyBoy said:
ahsanford said:
rrcphoto said:
sigh.

the mirrorbox assemblies were entirely different. your use of the term nerfing is insulting and argumentative.

What part about "forgive me" and "I agree that a 1/4000 vs. 1/8000 FF shutter are different animals" did not read mea culpa to you?

I conceded the point -- some things are nerfed, some things absolutely cost more for a reason. The mirror box is the latter.

But everyone here recognizes I'm as insulting as a tail-wagging puppy on this forum. I just think you hate the word/usage of 'nerfing' far more than you believe I'm actually being insulting. But I could be wrong.

- A

I think you're far overusing that word, and it makes me sad because until the 6D2 rumors started heating up I had you pegged as one of the more reasonable, intelligent members around here. When you call anything that isn't perfect "nerfed" though (even when you pose it as a question), you start to sound a lot more like K.

And it makes me sad, because my eyes have started involuntarily rolling when I see your avatar now instead of looking forward to what I'm about to read.

This is love. END
 
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Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

unfocused said:
Microphone Jack, but not seeing a headphone jack. If true, that will give the video folks something to dislike.

The rubber flaps that are supposed to cover the HDMI and USB connectors covers the area under the microphone socket. There's room for both PC and headphone sockets behind them. The 5DmkIV has PC on top and mic and headphone socket under that flap. Both cameras have remote connector on the front side.
 
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