Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

[einstein72586]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

This is my very first post on this site so I fully expect someone to argue with me. As a hobbyist that has debated upgrading from crop(7d mark II) to a full frame(have been waiting for the 6d mark II), I have experienced card failure first hand and I am thankful that my camera has dual slots. The extra slot saved pictures that I would of lost from a two week vacation overseas in the Philippines. The idea of a semi-pro camera that cost more then mine with only one card slot has killed my notion of upgrading to the 6d mark II or even having it as a second body. I am good with all the other specs, but one card slot I have learned is dangerous.

 

[HaroldC3]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

[...] cellphone based *** data like in the M6, it is impossible to get the *** data while hiking a trail without any cell phone signals. Somebody correct me if I am wrong here. I know that phone have dedicated *** receiver but to get the location they need to download the map with needs data connection. [...]

Cellphones don't *need* a GSM signal to have coordinates. They don't *need* maps to have coordinates neither.
Some applications need maps to show data. But it is a problem releted to the application. Most of the time the applications *like* to have a data connexion to ease the *** fix: with a cold start, a *** needs a continuous 30 seconds stream from one satellite to get the ephemeris of the whole constellation. If the choosen satellite is lost during this stream, it choose an other one and retry, ... and again... With a data connection, you can get AGPS data. AGPS will download from the internet a "fresh" ephemeris table which avoid the initial – long – download, then the table is updated together with the positionning data. See: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS

I've never heard that the M6 *** is "cellphone based"... Even if the chip is the same as in a cellphone, a M6 doesnt have a SIM card and neither a GSM receiver.

Regards

Jean-Luc

It's not cellphone based (in that it doesn't have a sim card in the camera). You have to pair the camera with your cell phone and use the cell phone *** to get the data to the camera.

 

[Diamir]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

I spend my X dollars on a 6D2 and TWO lenses....

Canon cries all the way to the bank.....

OR: you buy a 6D2 and ONE lens and... you by a nice necklace to you wife (or a dress)... 8)

 

[wildwalker]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

I am genuinely upset about the fact that it only has a single card slot. Nikon has it from the D7000 up and Canon even put it in the 7d2. Seems so stupid that they would omit it from a camera that is higher end than the 7d2!

6D is higher end than then 7D2? If you say so....

Lets see, xxxx is lowest range, then xxx, then xx then x. Now 5 is higher range that 6, 6 is higher range than 7.

1 is the highest of them all.

So yes, 6 is a higher model range than 7. The clue was in the numbering system!!!

 

[wildwalker]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

This is my very first post on this site so I fully expect someone to argue with me. As a hobbyist that has debated upgrading from crop(7d mark II) to a full frame(have been waiting for the 6d mark II), I have experienced card failure first hand and I am thankful that my camera has dual slots. The extra slot saved pictures that I would of lost from a two week vacation overseas in the Philippines. The idea of a semi-pro camera that cost more then mine with only one card slot has killed my notion of upgrading to the 6d mark II or even having it as a second body. I am good with all the other specs, but one card slot I have learned is dangerous.

Sorry to burst anyone's bubble. But I don't think the Canon 6D range is Semi Pro? I would say that is what the 5 range is.

 

[photogdan]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

This is awesome news. The 6D II is turning out exactly how I hoped it would, a full frame 80D with improved sensor and even cheaper than I thought. I was hoping for $2200, and expecting $2400. coming in at $1999 is an awesome surprise. If that is the actual price then I will pre-order instead of waiting for CPW to get a lower street price which usually happens 1-2 months after release.

Canon did not disappoint!

Actually, there are often short time deals on cameras before they hit the stores, so expect to see a small 50 or 75 dollar discount. I can get between 5 and 10 percent off thru my employer, it barely pays the sales tax.

Unless you live in NY or NJ... B&H and Adorama don't charge you sales tax.

 

[wildwalker]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

I am genuinely upset about the fact that it only has a single card slot. Nikon has it from the D7000 up and Canon even put it in the 7d2. Seems so stupid that they would omit it from a camera that is higher end than the 7d2!

6D is higher end than then 7D2? If you say do....

Of course the 6D is a higher end camera.... that's why the weather sealing.... and the 65 point AF system.... and the dual processors.... and 10FPS.... oh wait, it doesn't have any of those......

Wow weather sealing, that is always the top of my list (no really, it isn't)

AF system is good yes.
Dual Digic 6, not Digic 7 as in 6DMk2
10FPS from a crop sensor, not full frame.

So yes, if you need full frame, the AF and Weather sealing in a 7DMk2 don't count for much.

Their is a reason the 7DMk2 has the number 7 and not 6, and costs half what the 6DMk2 will.

 

[Loswr]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

When I bought my original 6D, there were many shots that I could not satisfactorily get on FF compared to crop. So I bought a new crop as well. The versatility of having both was a big plus, in my opinion. I know the FF is always better crowd will jump up and down in disagreement, but it depends a lot on what you shoot.

FF sensors will always deliver better IQ than crop sensors, period. But, sensors don't take pictures...cameras do. The 7-series offers great performance for moving subjects, but it's the top crop camera. When I had a 7D and bought a 5DII, I continued using the 7D for birds/wildlife. After getting the 1D X, which combines FF IQ and top performance, the 7D no longer offered any benefit. For me, the M series does – I'm willing to trade IQ and performance for smaller kit size.

 

[rrcphoto]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

I am genuinely upset about the fact that it only has a single card slot. Nikon has it from the D7000 up and Canon even put it in the 7d2. Seems so stupid that they would omit it from a camera that is higher end than the 7d2!

6D is higher end than then 7D2? If you say so....

Lets see, xxxx is lowest range, then xxx, then xx then x. Now 5 is higher range that 6, 6 is higher range than 7.

1 is the highest of them all.

So yes, 6 is a higher model range than 7. The clue was in the numbering system!!!

sure if you ignore common sense, that the 7D Mark II is basically a baby 1DX, and the 6D is a full frame version of pretty much the 77D.

the 7D Mark II counterpart in full frame is the 5D Mark IV
the 6D counterpart is somewhere less than the 80D

but yeah, consider it a higher tier.. :

 

[photogdan]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

H&G

Care to elaborate? I seem to have missed something in my Internet vocabulary course.

New member, two Canon-bashing posts, claims to be leaving Canon because they can't compete.

Hi & goodbye.

Didn't say anything about leaving Too many lenses to leave - i'd rather say no further investment in the future and passing the old equipment to my interns or assistants ... the sensor of the 5d iv can compete, it's really good and finally has a nice enough (stilll not the best) dynamic range and a good enough lowlight iso - the auto focus is giving me some headache during some light conditions, 4k is terrible (i don't need it anyway) and silent mode is somehow louder than on my 5d3 - af points are also kind of "big" and sometimes I wish they were smaller and hard to set accurate. If the focus is right there where i want it to be - its a good camera - but overprized (worth 2500 euro - not 3700). I'd by one more if it was cheaper.
The 6D M2 with 2 SD card slots would have been a nice camera to invest some more money in to replace our old 6ds (biggest problem is the lag of a 2nd sd card slot, thats why i am looking for a replacement) - two 5d ivs are just too much money i am paying for features i don't need ...

The problem is that they won't be able to compete in the future if they continue like nothing changed.. Tried a sony a year ago .. image quality is awesome, af was on the level of my 5d IV. Didn't balcance to good in my hands, also no 2 memory card slots, terrible menue.. didn't get one yet - but sony is on the market just for a few years and overtook nikon in the US. I want canon to compete harder with other brands .. I don't want to bash canon, they did such an amazing job in the past .. just recently i am kind of disappointed .. thats why I might have sound a bit disappointed .. sorry for bashing, hope dies last, so please canon step up in the game.

So one day i might have so much gear which is not canon, that I might change to an other brand, yes. But i am still hoping for the "princess" to wake up ..

cheers .

I feel your pain but more competition will introduce better Canon technology.

Sony cherry picked a period in April 2017 where they sold more cameras than Nikon and crowned themselves #2 in the market. If they did YTD, they would still be #3 by a lot.

To me it's all about the eco systems, quality and support. I have owned many Canon DSLR's. Not once it have any malfunctioned or overheated. I've also never heard of Canon's overheating. I've never owned a Sony but overheating seems to be debated daily by Sony users. It may not be an issue for all but the issue exists. And it affects the entire Sony APS-C and FF mirrorless lineup.

Canon charges a premium for their professional lenses. Sony seems to think they deserve an even larger premium for their recently introduced professional lenses.

 

[Drew.bowser]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

I am genuinely upset about the fact that it only has a single card slot. Nikon has it from the D7000 up and Canon even put it in the 7d2. Seems so stupid that they would omit it from a camera that is higher end than the 7d2!

6D is higher end than then 7D2? If you say so....

Lets see, xxxx is lowest range, then xxx, then xx then x. Now 5 is higher range that 6, 6 is higher range than 7.

1 is the highest of them all.

So yes, 6 is a higher model range than 7. The clue was in the numbering system!!!

sure if you ignore common sense, that the 7D Mark II is basically a baby 1DX, and the 6D is a full frame version of pretty much the 77D.

the 7D Mark II counterpart in full frame is the 5D Mark IV
the 6D counterpart is somewhere less than the 80D

but yeah, consider it a higher tier.. :

The 6d came our before the 7d2 I believe. Before hat even the 5d2 only had 1 slot. Considering that he 6d2 is more expensive than the 7d2. There is not logical reason that canon shouldn't put in 2 slots. They are gimping a product to sell more 5d4s

 

[brad-man]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

This is my very first post on this site so I fully expect someone to argue with me. As a hobbyist that has debated upgrading from crop(7d mark II) to a full frame(have been waiting for the 6d mark II), I have experienced card failure first hand and I am thankful that my camera has dual slots. The extra slot saved pictures that I would of lost from a two week vacation overseas in the Philippines. The idea of a semi-pro camera that cost more then mine with only one card slot has killed my notion of upgrading to the 6d mark II or even having it as a second body. I am good with all the other specs, but one card slot I have learned is dangerous.

Hello and welcome. Would you mind sharing with us the brand and model of card that failed? I use Sandisk Extreme & Extreme Pro and have never had a card fail. Thanks.

 

[Keith_Reeder]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

They are gimping a product to sell more 5d4s

Wow! Why on earth would they do that?



Seriously - I doubt that the lack of a card slot would make most potential 6D II buyers buy a 5D IV - they're aimed at different niches, with different needs: and the 6D's target audience doesn't really need two slots.

 

[LukasS]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

You lost business from me at single SD card slot. Well.dine canon! Way to go.

Yeah if it was a CF only then I would not feel that bad, but as I have mostly CF cards I feel quite bad about this choice. Hopefully it's not 100% confirmed.

 

[Keith_Reeder]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

The idea of a semi-pro camera that cost more then mine with only one card slot has killed my notion of upgrading to the 6d mark II or even having it as a second body. I am good with all the other specs, but one card slot I have learned is dangerous.

Well, as someone who uses a camera with 2 card slots, I have to tell you that it's a pretty common choice among wildlife/action/sport 'togs to use the second slot not as back-up, but in order to ensure plentiful storage capacity so as not to miss shots (possibly the shot) due to filling the card(s).

And we do this confidently, because card failures are vanishingly rare, assuming properly-sourced, quality cards are used.

Like Brad-man, I haven't had a single card fail in the 12 years I've been using DSLRs.

Besides - how didn't you know that the card had failed while it was still in the camera? Just pop in a new card and keep shooting...

 

[Keith_Reeder]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

What a bunch of regressive apologistic bunch of monkeys are explaining the dumb Canon's feature crippling on their cameras to protect more expensive cameras in line up. Since you monkeys dont want upgraded features like 4k, dual SD slots, etc... why dont you just go back to shooting film since thats what you like.

That's big talk, princess...

Just because your priorities aren't ours, that doesn't make us regressive or apologistic - it just means that Canon gets what we need, and provides it.

Keyboard warriors - don't you just love 'em?

 

[Billybob]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

A bit off topic but after assessing my needs, I realize that the 6D is simply not the camera for me. Don't get me wrong, the camera has just about everything I expected it to have. Sure, I could ask for more like a 6fps burst rate, a no-AA-filter version, and improved DR, but none of those things are addressing an unmet need. You see I started switching to Nikon several years ago. However, due to perceived holes in Nikon's lens lineup, I never got rid of my Canon lenses. I stupidly continued to buy Canon lenses that I thought were superior to Nikon's version or for which Nikon didn't have a match. So, even though I sold my 70-200 L II (replaced with a 70-200G f/4, I didn't need the speed), I kept my 70-300 L, 85mm L, and acquired the 70-400 L II and 24-70 L II. I sold all my Canon bodies (6D and 5DIII) in anticipation of the 5DIV. However, the 5DIV was too much camera given my increasing Nikon focus, so I bought an 80D when on sale for $850 and hunkered down to wait for the 6D.

Well, times have changed. Canon has no compelling lens for my shooting style that I can't replace with either a wonderful Nikon version or an excellent third party lens (e.g., no one makes an equivalent 70-300L, but the Sigma 100-400 C provides better IQ in an equally compact package). I'm hoping that the Sigma 24-70 Art will be very good to excellent. If so, then my 24-70L II will be for sale.

So, why was I looking at the 6DII? It was either GAS, or a desire to get some use out of Canon lenses. Stupid reasons. Baby, it's finally time to cut the cord and get off the fence and recognize that I'm a Nikon guy. There's nothing wrong with Canon. It's just my personal preference. I like the DR of Nikon cameras, and I dislike sensors with AA filters. After starting with Canon, I still have to say that I prefer Canon ergonomics, but not enough to go back.

Therefore, if there is a take away from this tangential soliloquy, it's to really focus on your needs. If you are upgrading, does this new camera offer you anything that is truly missing from your current photography? If yes, then might that need be better addressed with a 5DIII? I don't regret selling mine (see reasons above), but the III is an incredible camera. Very responsive, reliable, and a joy to work with. I doubt that the 6DII's IQ will be vastly superior. The 6DII would have to have extremely compelling features (at least one) for me to pick it over the 5DIII.

Anyway, good luck on your buying decisions, and happy shooting!

 

[dak723]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

When I bought my original 6D, there were many shots that I could not satisfactorily get on FF compared to crop. So I bought a new crop as well. The versatility of having both was a big plus, in my opinion. I know the FF is always better crowd will jump up and down in disagreement, but it depends a lot on what you shoot.

FF sensors will always deliver better IQ than crop sensors, period.

Yes, they do. No argument there. Of course, I made no mention of IQ. But I guess some people just have to be argumentative - even if they don't read or understand what is written by the other person!

 

[hbr]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

A bit off topic but after assessing my needs, I realize that the 6D is simply not the camera for me. Don't get me wrong, the camera has just about everything I expected it to have. Sure, I could ask for more like a 6fps burst rate, a no-AA-filter version, and improved DR, but none of those things are addressing an unmet need. You see I started switching to Nikon several years ago. However, due to perceived holes in Nikon's lens lineup, I never got rid of my Canon lenses. I stupidly continued to buy Canon lenses that I thought were superior to Nikon's version or for which Nikon didn't have a match. So, even though I sold my 70-200 L II (replaced with a 70-200G f/4, I didn't need the speed), I kept my 70-300 L, 85mm L, and acquired the 70-400 L II and 24-70 L II. I sold all my Canon bodies (6D and 5DIII) in anticipation of the 5DIV. However, the 5DIV was too much camera given my increasing Nikon focus, so I bought an 80D when on sale for $850 and hunkered down to wait for the 6D.

Well, times have changed. Canon has no compelling lens for my shooting style that I can't replace with either a wonderful Nikon version or an excellent third party lens (e.g., no one makes an equivalent 70-300L, but the Sigma 100-400 C provides better IQ in an equally compact package). I'm hoping that the Sigma 24-70 Art will be very good to excellent. If so, then my 24-70L II will be for sale.

So, why was I looking at the 6DII? It was either GAS, or a desire to get some use out of Canon lenses. Stupid reasons. Baby, it's finally time to cut the cord and get off the fence and recognize that I'm a Nikon guy. There's nothing wrong with Canon. It's just my personal preference. I like the DR of Nikon cameras, and I dislike sensors with AA filters. After starting with Canon, I still have to say that I prefer Canon ergonomics, but not enough to go back.

Therefore, if there is a take away from this tangential soliloquy, it's to really focus on your needs. If you are upgrading, does this new camera offer you anything that is truly missing from your current photography? If yes, then might that need be better addressed with a 5DIII? I don't regret selling mine (see reasons above), but the III is an incredible camera. Very responsive, reliable, and a joy to work with. I doubt that the 6DII's IQ will be vastly superior. The 6DII would have to have extremely compelling features (at least one) for me to pick it over the 5DIII.

Anyway, good luck on your buying decisions, and happy shooting!

At least you are honest and not calling Canon users "Suckers," and That Canon is a stupid company. None of us in this thread has knocked Nikon as they make great cameras.
In photography it is all about personal preference and finding the best tool for the job at hand and one that the photographer can afford.

Cheers, man and good luck.

 

[Frederik_Bo]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

What I dont get about omitting 4K is that they are putting a tilty-flippy screen on this thing. A tilty-flippy screen is in my opinion, a very video centric feature. I know that it is also handy for stills, but just about every dedicated videocamera, that comes with a screen, comes with on that can be tiltet and flipped. This is not so much the standerd for stills cameras, at least not for high ones.

The tilty-flippy screen combined with, Dual pixel autofocus and 4K would have been great.

one of the reasons the 80d was great for video was the tilty-flippy screen.

If canon is really omitting features to push customers towarts higher end models, I guess it is working. I will properly be buying a 5d Mark 4 instead, in order to get 4K video