The Canon EOS R1 is coming, here are a few things to expect

[stevelee]

I hope it has 4 card slots and some space to store my post-it notes and if possible a cup holder on the side.

And ice maker would be nice. It could also help solve overheating problems.

 

[Chig]

And ice maker would be nice. It could also help solve overheating problems.

Special USA version with cup holders and a gun rack ?

 

[masterpix]

Continue reading...

As for global shutter, it is not just readout speed, it is also to "stop motion" and reduce "rolling shutter" effects, which will make motion capture something that we've never seen before.

 

[sanj]

This post saying nothing meaninful.

 

[GoldWing]

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. Canon has got to be unhappy about Nikon's aggressive pricing scheme.

So many semi-random thoughts:

I would not be surprised to see an R1 come it at the same price as the 1Dx III. They probably wanted to price it much higher, but I'm guessing they'll take another look at the numbers now that they know what Nikon is doing. Traditionally the two flagships have mirrored each other. But, they also usually come out within a few months of each other as well.

I think it's smart of Canon to wait another year before releasing the R1. Gives them time to get feedback from the R3 and tweak things like eye-control autofocus, which seems to be the main spec advantage the R3 will have over both Sony and Nikon.

Interesting that Nikon has dropped the mechanical shutter. I was surprised that electronic shutter is the default mode of the R3, so I guess Nikon decided to go all in.

In my ideal world, Canon would provide R3 owners with regular firmware upgrades to tweak eye-control and add value to the body. It which would also give them a handy test bed for the R1.

Will Canon deliberately shift its R1 release cycle to a year or so after Nikon, giving them the opportunity to offer new features that the previous Nikon model doesn't have?

Will the R3 remain in the lineup over the long term, or will it be a one-off? If it is a permanent addition, will the R3 be to the R1 what the R6 is to the R5?

Is the market large enough to support both an R3 and an R1? I suspect it might be if the R3 becomes the "bargain" camera for workings sports photographers and photojournalists in secondary markets, while the R1 gets targeted to well-healed enthusiasts and to photographers in elite sports markets like @GoldWing.

Regardless, it will be fun to see how all this plays out.

Canon needs to double the resolution of the 1DXMKIII. That's it.

What's scary now if you're a Canon shop is competing for "New business"

You walk into an editor's office with 1DXMKIII files. Your competitor with equally talented photographers walks in with Z9 files.

Based purely on IQ, which agency gets the contract?

For a 85MP R1 our agency would pay the 10,000 for each one of our photographers to have access to multiple copies as well as glass optimal for the platform.

Will the few million in revenue from our agency make Canon double the resolution of the 1DXMKIII, we don't think so... However, It would assure Canon's dominance. Nikon will not sit by anymore

 

[neuroanatomist]

However, It would assure Canon's dominance. Nikon will not sit by anymore

Lol.

 

[Jethro]

This post saying nothing meaninful.

The R1 being "all but guaranteed to be coming in 2022" isn't meaningful?

 

[sanj]

The R1 being "all but guaranteed to be coming in 2022" isn't meaningful?

The post does not say that.

 

[Jethro]

Sorry, what post are you talking about?

 

[dcsimages]

I'd like to see an R5II in a R3 style body, but that's just me I guess.

 

[Cyborx]

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Not sure why so many people think the R1 will be coming earlier than the next summer Olympics in 2024 or that it will be high mp resolution, perhaps it's wish fulfilment on their part ?
Perhaps it's thought that Canon must compete with:

• The amateurish overpriced Alpha 1 "flagship" from Sony which has 50mp but it's also got their rubbish ergonomics and laughable user interface and very similar specs to the much cheaper R5
• The Nikon Z9 which has good ergonomics and U.I. but specs very similar to the R5 and nearly as good autofocus as Sony and Canon and seems to be an excellent camera but really are Canon (or Sony) users going to sell their gear and switch to Nikon ?

I think there's a specialised market for a high resolution Canon body and Canon will probably make a high mp version of the R5 to meet the needs of those hoping for such a camera but this won't be their flagship R1 which will be another sports/photo-journalised high speed rugged body of medium resolution.

Personally I'd like Canon to make an R2 camera based on the R3 with high resolution for wildlife but I doubt it'll happen even though it may be a good seller

We'll just have to wait to see what the R1 turns out like but I doubt it'll be soon.

EXACTLY! Just take the R3 body and put the R5 sensor inside and name it R2.

But Canon: PLEASE GIVE US A HIGH RES PRO BODY NOW!!!!!!

 

[Cyborx]

If you wait for the perfect camera to come along you will never buy anything. All cameras are a collection of compromises.

No way, the 1dx was a perfect camera at that time..

 

[Cyborx]

I believe the R1 needs to be more than a higher mp R3. Something different. More of a studio camera first. 16 bit files to battle Fuji medium format , 80 mp, pixel binned to 20 mp at 20 fps for occasional sports work.

Name it the R2 then, but fill that GAP of pro body high res sensor NOW! Tens of thousands of photographers are waiting for this camera. R3 body R5 sensor. I would buy two of the shelves without a doubt. And a bunch of RF glass too.

 

[RickWagoner]

Don't see the R1 coming so soon as it would destroy everything else in their line with every bell and whistle tech of today can do. R5S will come late next year at a higher price point just slightly with higher MP, deeper buffer, and better video features as way improved cooling. At the same time the R5 will get a lower price point also. It may lead the way into a R3S later 2023, slightly higher price point with slightly better specs. R1 will come in the 2024 Games. Tech that will end up in this camera is not ready to hit production but Canon has their patents and testers out now R&Ding them now.

 

[Del Paso]

I'd like to see an R5II in a R3 style body, but that's just me I guess.

No, you are not alone!

 

[Quackator]

While global shutter would be my "order now!" command,
higher Canon ranks burst this bubble recently, as they told me
"we do have, and we master global shutter sensors, but this
doesn't work with the current implementation of AF".

Machine vision sensors and C700 GS were mentioned.

Market chances of a global shutter camera without AF are
seen as dub par. I agree.

 

[dilbert]

Why doesn't Canon's marketing department just make an official press release rather than use a rumors website?

Are we heading for 15 months of R1 rumoring from now on?

Yes.

I know for a fact that it wont be in and around 30mp, it will be at least double that.

Well then quit with the marketing release rumors and post real rumors.

The Z9's major weakness among high performance bodies is not being able to do 30fps raw. Sorry, 30fps jpeg is a cop-out,

I'm pretty sure Nikon have done their research and don't consider this a weakness, nor do those that need the 30fps.

 

[Cyborx]

No, you are not alone!

Exactly. That is what EVERBODY wants, so it probably is not going to happen.

 

[Cyborx]

R5 in an R3 body. That is what we want. Name it R2, name it spaceship VULVA69X mark1000, BUT MAKE THE DAMN CAMERA!

 

[sanj]

Sorry, what post are you talking about?

This. Sir.