The Next Rebel? [CR1]

[preppyak]

It will probably have 9 cross types, where does that leave the 6D

As a full frame camera in a completely different world IQ wise...

Really, all this spec list does is say that the 70D has to be great, or have some new sensor, otherwise it'll flop. And that the 7d2 will really have to be a leap forward

 

[K-amps]

It will probably have 9 cross types, where does that leave the 6D

toilet ?

There's more to a body than AF points ... or was that sensor? ???

 

[RGomezPhotos]

The more I think about a smaller DSLR and these specs, the more I like this. This is looking like a smaller 50D with better specs. I mean, if this has a metal body, this could be a GREAT travel camera. WITH EF and EF-S lens compatibility without an adapter? I'm really liking this. Gosh, this could replace my beloved 50D.

 

[c.d.embrey]

Erm, same image sensor since the 550D? Really Canon? That the best you can do?

That sensor was already lagging behind last gen's Sony 16mpx sensor in the Nikons' and NEXs, and now everyone's moving on to newer sensors...

As long as the Canon Faithful continue to buy last years technology why should they change ??? When sales drop there will be incentive to up-date the sensor.

 

[c.d.embrey]

BUT, this camera probably is not meant for me, meaning that, as stated by other user, people would care more for sharing in FB than ISO performance.... well, that is call entry level.

Victor

The question is who is the camera aimed at ??? The photo-sharing-crowd has already abandoned the DSLR for the the smart-phone.

The smart-phone is the Box Brownie of the digital age. For people just interested in documenting their lives (childern's lives) their is NO reason to own a camera anymore. The shoe-box full of prints has been replaced by Social Media and a photo-gallery on their smart-phone. The camera companies (and many Very Serious Photo Enthusiasts) still don'r get-it ???

 

[skfla]

I've been thinking for a while that they'll go smaller for the rebel line. Mainly since mass consumer appeal is such a big issue for the line & that market seems to want smaller-smaller-smaller. I was thinking something a little smaller than the T3. & honestly, I don't mind. I use a rebel as my point & shoot & a little bit smaller would be fine with me.

I know most of you are sure this will be a T5i & you're probably right. But what does everyone think the odds are that this will be a T5 (to replace the T3)? Looking at the specs I agree that it doesn't seem likely. But if they push the specs up to this level it would really compete against the D3200.

Of course, that would have to push the T5i to what? And then the 70D specs would demand a $1500 price tag.

Still, I guess we'll know more if the 70D is announced later this month & we have a clearer idea how Canon is slotting their new lines. I'm just thinking that if they really do plan on pushing the 7D2 to be a 2000-2500 TOP SHELF crop sensor camera, there's a good bit of room left to expand into. As long as Canon thinks there's money to had in that area.

Don't laugh, but if these specs are accurate I'll probably pick one up (T5i/T5/or whateva) once its on the refurbished list & goes on sale. Or when it hits the CLP program. I'm still happy shooting casual stuff with my T2i (you wouldn't believe how cheap it was) but it would be nice to have a better viewfinder, touch screen, etc. even if they use the same old sensor. Again.

 

[gmrza]

I have the same opinion about using the same sensor.... for me a basic upgrade for a body must be the ISO performance (that I guess will be the same).... Imagine if they would have kept the same sensor between the 5d and the 5d mark III... it would have been a disaster.

BUT, this camera probably is not meant for me, meaning that, as stated by other user, people would care more for sharing in FB than ISO performance.... well, that is call entry level.

Let's see about the sensor in the 70D and the 7D mark II (if they are finally coming).

Victor

This is a product release driven by the Marketing department, not the Engineering department.

 

[aznable]

I agree though, if this super-entry-level, whatever it ends up being, has 6fps, the 70D better have something worthwhile to be deemed 2-notches better.

It will probably have 9 cross types, where does that leave the 6D

the 650d has 9 cross type, just like the 40d,50d,60d...so what?

 

[traveller]

Erm, same image sensor since the 550D? Really Canon? That the best you can do?

That sensor was already lagging behind last gen's Sony 16mpx sensor in the Nikons' and NEXs, and now everyone's moving on to newer sensors...

If all you're looking at is the sensor, you should have switched to Nikon long ago. Canon's new sensor wont be available until release of the 7Dll (or whatever they call it). This new Rebel will be smaller, faster, better in low light and have the articulating touchscreen that many seem to like. The big question is what improvements have they made to the AF system. Sounds like an awesome entry level camera to me...

That's what Nikon users used to say before the D3 and its sisters came out... 2007, has it been that long! :

 

[wickidwombat]

i wonder if we will see an 18-55 kit lens revamp that incorporates the better optics of the EF-M 18-55?
the EF-M kit lens is noticably better than its EF-S cousin

 

[lopicma]

Would it make sense for Canon to start a new "trifecta" of mirror-less cameras? Say.. the new EF-M as the entry level, this newly announce Rebel as the mid-level, and possibly a full frame mirror-less at the high end.

Good stuff all around.

 

[ddashti]

Canon should just keep the Rebel line instead of making a whole new other one.

 

[EchoLocation]

yawn....
550D sensor and 9AF points? what's the point of this camera?
Don't we already have a 650D, EOS-M, 60D, 600D, 550D, etc with these same basic specs?
Canon has been super boring lately.

 

[zim]

I agree though, if this super-entry-level, whatever it ends up being, has 6fps, the 70D better have something worthwhile to be deemed 2-notches better.

It will probably have 9 cross types, where does that leave the 6D

the 650d has 9 cross type, just like the 40d,50d,60d...so what?

Actually that was my point Canon's feature list has never been linear so it could easily have 6fps and not step on the 70D. I doubt it will though

 

[jrista]

Do they really need another Rebel? They better had make the 70D something stellar...the lines are beginning to converge to closely.

Given the specs of the Rebel line are increasing, and the rumored specs for the 7D II are very good (mini-1DX anyone?), I suspect the 70D will reclaim the meaningful position the 50D held. The 7D I was really what started to blur the lines...and I think Canon is trying to reset the expectations of each line and reform the necessary divisions between them.

 

[verysimplejason]

Still the old sensor... next?!?

 

[nazdar]

He he, still same old fuzzy sensor from 3 years old 550D. One step forward, three back. Wow.
No good camera from Canon, no money from me. My next camera is Nikon D5200 or GH3. Bye bye Kanon ;D

 

[jrista]

He he, still same old fuzzy sensor from 3 years old 550D. One step forward, three back. Wow.
No good camera from Canon, no money from me. My next camera is Nikon D5200 or GH3. Bye bye Kanon ;D

Good little Troll! Good Troll! Here's a cookie... :

 

[Dylan777]

My 2cents: Canon seems to have hard time competing with mirrorless market, now they release small DSLR. How many crop DSLR do we really need?

 

[RGF]

Does any understand the market place for this type of camera?

Do rebel owners upgrade often (need to refresh the line to get trade ups) or is this to keep away of Nikon to get new camera buyers?