*UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

[Eldar]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

The level of Fanboy-ism on this thread is impressive.

I don’t know how old or technically savy are most of you but I want to make some things clear:

1.- Those that don’t want or care about video: Video is the future. Images will be a thing of the past in some years and they will be merged with video. A video is a series of stills. Just look at how fast video is taking over stills in every media outlet, facebook, instagram etc. Look how many images vs video are published. Times are changing, and they are changing faster every year.

2.- What some people here are asking is for canon to innovate. Look are other camera companies, the underdogs. They are innovating. Canon is doing the opposite by having some of the technology and means but purposely crippling their products.

3.- If you don’t need a feature on a camera right now it does not mean you will not need it in the future or other people don’t need it right now. I have seen posts of people glad it does not have 4k 60fps. Others saying they don’t want high MP pictures because it takes too much processing power. You are spending thousands on cameras and lenses, go buy a fast pc and you are set. Take a look at your years old 8MP or 480 video and tell me if you wished you had a camera with 24MP or 1080P at the time?

4.- I can assure you that in less than 3 years the company who shall not be named on this forum will be releasing a mirrorless camera that shoots 8K at 30fps and 4K at 120fps. The 5D MK4 will still be shooting 30MP stills at 7 fps and 4k at 30fps. Yes, I know you will not need it, but the younger generations will.

5.- You all need to stop with the brand loyalty. It hurts you and the brand in the long term.

Quite a first post ...

Your rather bastant statements show very limited knowledge of what photography is all about and you show limited knowledge/experience in which cameras are best suited for what work. I don´t care about video. I don´t care about youtube, facebook or any of the other media who spread , disastrous, amateurish, noisy, poorly edited and horrible videos. I care about high quality stills, preferably printed and framed and I will continue to do so. I also love high quality video/film. But, like most others, that is not something I know how to do, but I know it is not made with a 5D mkIV.

Like many, you seem to believe that the core of a photographers system is the camera body. It rarely is. My investments in glass is more than 5x of that I have in cameras (I have good cameras), so swapping camera system for every other camera release is not an option.

I have 14/16 fps. I have excellent low light performance. I have 50.6MP for high resolution. I have excellent AF. I have excellent weather sealing. I have excellent customer support. I have the most comprehensive set of lenses available for any system. My system is first in line for any third party accessory ... and you suggest I change brand??

 

[takesome1]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

My system is first in line for any third party accessory ... and you suggest I change brand??

Post wasn't at me but, yes, I suggest this.
And because I am a nice guy I will buy your used 1Dx II, 5Ds R and all of that worthless glass for 30 cents on the dollar. This should help you with your new Nikon purchases.

 

[rrcphoto]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

4.- I can assure you that in less than 3 years the company who shall not be named on this forum will be releasing a mirrorless camera that shoots 8K at 30fps and 4K at 120fps. The 5D MK4 will still be shooting 30MP stills at 7 fps and 4k at 30fps. Yes, I know you will not need it, but the younger generations will.

5.- You all need to stop with the brand loyalty. It hurts you and the brand in the long term.

Oh. My. God. 8K mirrorless camera in 3 years eh? HAHAHAHA LOL. U wot m8? This is trolling at its' finest. Drive by post. "The company who shall not be named..." What's next? "The Artist formerly known as?"

I think he's talking about the announced "R&D" of panasonic.

yeah .. imagine 8k out of a m43's sensor. lol.

 

[privatebydesign]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

My system is first in line for any third party accessory ... and you suggest I change brand??

Post wasn't at me but, yes, I suggest this.
And because I am a nice guy I will buy your used 1Dx II, 5Ds R and all of that worthless glass for 30 cents on the dollar. This should help you with your new Nikon purchases.

Eldar,

Don't listen to him. I am a struggling pro so you can count a donation to me as tax deductible, and I'll give you 35c on the dollar. ;D

 

[Eldar]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

My system is first in line for any third party accessory ... and you suggest I change brand??

Post wasn't at me but, yes, I suggest this.
And because I am a nice guy I will buy your used 1Dx II, 5Ds R and all of that worthless glass for 30 cents on the dollar. This should help you with your new Nikon purchases.

;D

 

[Eldar]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

My system is first in line for any third party accessory ... and you suggest I change brand??

Post wasn't at me but, yes, I suggest this.
And because I am a nice guy I will buy your used 1Dx II, 5Ds R and all of that worthless glass for 30 cents on the dollar. This should help you with your new Nikon purchases.

Eldar,

Don't listen to him. I am a struggling pro so you can count a donation to me as tax deductible, and I'll give you 35c on the dollar. ;D

;D ;D

 

[takesome1]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

My system is first in line for any third party accessory ... and you suggest I change brand??

Post wasn't at me but, yes, I suggest this.
And because I am a nice guy I will buy your used 1Dx II, 5Ds R and all of that worthless glass for 30 cents on the dollar. This should help you with your new Nikon purchases.

Eldar,

Don't listen to him. I am a struggling pro so you can count a donation to me as tax deductible, and I'll give you 35c on the dollar. ;D

I can not compete with the tax deduction.

All I can offer is to give them a loving home, where they will be taken on occasional vacation and go out on play days to have fun. They will never have to work for a living in my home.

 

[Loswr]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

My system is first in line for any third party accessory ... and you suggest I change brand??

Post wasn't at me but, yes, I suggest this.
And because I am a nice guy I will buy your used 1Dx II, 5Ds R and all of that worthless glass for 30 cents on the dollar. This should help you with your new Nikon purchases.

Don't listen to him. I am a struggling pro so you can count a donation to me as tax deductible, and I'll give you 35c on the dollar. ;D

I can not compete with the tax deduction.

All I can offer is to give them a loving home, where they will be taken on occasional vacation and go out on play days to have fun. They will never have to work for a living in my home.

I can promise the same, and in my home they'll have lots and lots of siblings.

 

[uxr51]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

The level of Fanboy-ism on this thread is impressive.

I don’t know how old or technically savy are most of you but I want to make some things clear:

1.- Those that don’t want or care about video: Video is the future. Images will be a thing of the past in some years and they will be merged with video. A video is a series of stills. Just look at how fast video is taking over stills in every media outlet, facebook, instagram etc. Look how many images vs video are published. Times are changing, and they are changing faster every year.

2.- What some people here are asking is for canon to innovate. Look are other camera companies, the underdogs. They are innovating. Canon is doing the opposite by having some of the technology and means but purposely crippling their products.

3.- If you don’t need a feature on a camera right now it does not mean you will not need it in the future or other people don’t need it right now. I have seen posts of people glad it does not have 4k 60fps. Others saying they don’t want high MP pictures because it takes too much processing power. You are spending thousands on cameras and lenses, go buy a fast pc and you are set. Take a look at your years old 8MP or 480 video and tell me if you wished you had a camera with 24MP or 1080P at the time?

4.- I can assure you that in less than 3 years the company who shall not be named on this forum will be releasing a mirrorless camera that shoots 8K at 30fps and 4K at 120fps. The 5D MK4 will still be shooting 30MP stills at 7 fps and 4k at 30fps. Yes, I know you will not need it, but the younger generations will.

5.- You all need to stop with the brand loyalty. It hurts you and the brand in the long term.

Quite a first post ...

Your rather bastant statements show very limited knowledge of what photography is all about and you show limited knowledge/experience in which cameras are best suited for what work. I don´t care about video. I don´t care about youtube, facebook or any of the other media who spread , disastrous, amateurish, noisy, poorly edited and horrible videos. I care about high quality stills, preferably printed and framed and I will continue to do so. I also love high quality video/film. But, like most others, that is not something I know how to do, but I know it is not made with a 5D mkIV.

Like many, you seem to believe that the core of a photographers system is the camera body. It rarely is. My investments in glass is more than 5x of that I have in cameras (I have good cameras), so swapping camera system for every other camera release is not an option.

I have 14/16 fps. I have excellent low light performance. I have 50.6MP for high resolution. I have excellent AF. I have excellent weather sealing. I have excellent customer support. I have the most comprehensive set of lenses available for any system. My system is first in line for any third party accessory ... and you suggest I change brand??

Hello Eldar,

Your assumptions about me are all wrong. Sorry to disappoint. I don’t even know if you read or comprehended what I wrote. I am baffled on how you got to those assumptions or to the conclusion that I want you to change brands. I wouldn’t.

It is ok if you don’t care about video. Good for you that you have so many cameras and lenses. You are the 1%. The thing is: it’s not about you, as you say over and over in your post. It’s about the other 99% of the market share.

 

[Dick]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

Don't see anything really interesting in those specs. The things that matter to me have not been answered:

1) dynamic range?
2) is the AF better than what Mark III has? (Less of oof shots with fast apertures?)
3) exposure compensation in M mode?

 

[Eldar]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

My system is first in line for any third party accessory ... and you suggest I change brand??

Post wasn't at me but, yes, I suggest this.
And because I am a nice guy I will buy your used 1Dx II, 5Ds R and all of that worthless glass for 30 cents on the dollar. This should help you with your new Nikon purchases.

Don't listen to him. I am a struggling pro so you can count a donation to me as tax deductible, and I'll give you 35c on the dollar. ;D

I can not compete with the tax deduction.

All I can offer is to give them a loving home, where they will be taken on occasional vacation and go out on play days to have fun. They will never have to work for a living in my home.

I can promise the same, and in my home they'll have lots and lots of siblings.

Well, even though they don´t talk much, I believe my kids are fairly happy where they are. Everyone gets their fair share of attention, they get to travel every now and then to see nice places, meet interesting people, beautiful birds and scary animals. I believe it would irresponsible to break up such a happy family I just wonder when I will be too old to have more ... :

 

[tpatana]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

4.- I can assure you that in less than 3 years the company who shall not be named on this forum will be releasing a mirrorless camera that shoots 8K at 30fps and 4K at 120fps. The 5D MK4 will still be shooting 30MP stills at 7 fps and 4k at 30fps. Yes, I know you will not need it, but the younger generations will.

(to quote someone funnier than me): Hahahahahahahahahhahaaha! Wait... you're serious? Let me laugh even harder HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[takesome1]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

The level of Fanboy-ism on this thread is impressive.

I don’t know how old or technically savy are most of you but I want to make some things clear:

1.- Those that don’t want or care about video: Video is the future. Images will be a thing of the past in some years and they will be merged with video. A video is a series of stills. Just look at how fast video is taking over stills in every media outlet, facebook, instagram etc. Look how many images vs video are published. Times are changing, and they are changing faster every year.

2.- What some people here are asking is for canon to innovate. Look are other camera companies, the underdogs. They are innovating. Canon is doing the opposite by having some of the technology and means but purposely crippling their products.

3.- If you don’t need a feature on a camera right now it does not mean you will not need it in the future or other people don’t need it right now. I have seen posts of people glad it does not have 4k 60fps. Others saying they don’t want high MP pictures because it takes too much processing power. You are spending thousands on cameras and lenses, go buy a fast pc and you are set. Take a look at your years old 8MP or 480 video and tell me if you wished you had a camera with 24MP or 1080P at the time?

4.- I can assure you that in less than 3 years the company who shall not be named on this forum will be releasing a mirrorless camera that shoots 8K at 30fps and 4K at 120fps. The 5D MK4 will still be shooting 30MP stills at 7 fps and 4k at 30fps. Yes, I know you will not need it, but the younger generations will.

5.- You all need to stop with the brand loyalty. It hurts you and the brand in the long term.

Quite a first post ...

Your rather bastant statements show very limited knowledge of what photography is all about and you show limited knowledge/experience in which cameras are best suited for what work. I don´t care about video. I don´t care about youtube, facebook or any of the other media who spread , disastrous, amateurish, noisy, poorly edited and horrible videos. I care about high quality stills, preferably printed and framed and I will continue to do so. I also love high quality video/film. But, like most others, that is not something I know how to do, but I know it is not made with a 5D mkIV.

Like many, you seem to believe that the core of a photographers system is the camera body. It rarely is. My investments in glass is more than 5x of that I have in cameras (I have good cameras), so swapping camera system for every other camera release is not an option.

I have 14/16 fps. I have excellent low light performance. I have 50.6MP for high resolution. I have excellent AF. I have excellent weather sealing. I have excellent customer support. I have the most comprehensive set of lenses available for any system. My system is first in line for any third party accessory ... and you suggest I change brand??

Hello Eldar,

Your assumptions about me are all wrong. Sorry to disappoint. I don’t even know if you read or comprehended what I wrote. I am baffled on how you got to those assumptions or to the conclusion that I want you to change brands. I wouldn’t.

It is ok if you don’t care about video. Good for you that you have so many cameras and lenses. You are the 1%. The thing is: it’s not about you, as you say over and over in your post. It’s about the other 99% of the market share.

I think your percentages are skewed. No doubt coming from some pre-conceived notion, not having the true facts in front of you. It is doubtful 99% of the market share cares about video.

 

[kphristov]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

Just CONFIRMED: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV will have dual pixel auto-focus.
The photo is fake.

 

[unfocused]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

The level of Fanboy-ism on this thread is impressive.

I don’t know how old or technically savy are most of you but I want to make some things clear:

1.- Those that don’t want or care about video: Video is the future. Images will be a thing of the past in some years and they will be merged with video. A video is a series of stills. Just look at how fast video is taking over stills in every media outlet, facebook, instagram etc. Look how many images vs video are published. Times are changing, and they are changing faster every year.

2.- What some people here are asking is for canon to innovate. Look are other camera companies, the underdogs. They are innovating. Canon is doing the opposite by having some of the technology and means but purposely crippling their products.

3.- If you don’t need a feature on a camera right now it does not mean you will not need it in the future or other people don’t need it right now. I have seen posts of people glad it does not have 4k 60fps. Others saying they don’t want high MP pictures because it takes too much processing power. You are spending thousands on cameras and lenses, go buy a fast pc and you are set. Take a look at your years old 8MP or 480 video and tell me if you wished you had a camera with 24MP or 1080P at the time?

4.- I can assure you that in less than 3 years the company who shall not be named on this forum will be releasing a mirrorless camera that shoots 8K at 30fps and 4K at 120fps. The 5D MK4 will still be shooting 30MP stills at 7 fps and 4k at 30fps. Yes, I know you will not need it, but the younger generations will.

5.- You all need to stop with the brand loyalty. It hurts you and the brand in the long term.

Quite a first post ...

When I read posts like this...and many others are like this on this thread...all I can think about is that somewhere in the world there is a 15-year-old girl with her Dad's 70D, out making a film that will go viral on You Tube and earn her a film school scholarship and a contract for a series of films for a price that none of us will ever come close to.

Yet, no one has told her that the 70D is a piece of crap and that anything that doesn't have 4K and a host of other specs that I know nothing about isn't worth even looking at. Somehow she will succeed and won't worry about the things being discussed here because in the end, just as it has been for thousands of years, it's the content that matters.

 

[rcarca]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

I set myself the challenge of reading the 40 pages so far. What a total waste of energy. The level of debate on here is crass in the extreme. Unlike so many on here I know little about the pros and cons of all of the different manufacturers, and I understand next to nothing about the physics. I am only an amateur - albeit keen. But I keep coming back to this forum for two reasons: (1) I really am interested to know what is coming up with the 5Div and other models - whether I can justify the expense or not remains to be seen; and (2) I have a very vague hope of occasionally finding some enlightening comments.

Well this thread (apart from the original post which at least gave me some of the likely features of the new 5Div) has confirmed what I guess I already knew: that this forum seems to consist of the biggest bunch of maladjusted egos that ever walked the earth.

This is truly a sorry state of affairs.

 

[privatebydesign]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

The photo is fake.

Have any actual proof of that?

As far as fakes go it is a remarkable piece of work that goes through forensics quite well, especially parts where they had to have adjusted/constructed the image (the pentaprism is unique). And it arrived at the same time as the now seemingly confirmed rumor that the badge had moved to make way for the remote release port. Any explanation for how they managed that? Crystal ball?

 

[unfocused]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

...Video is the future. Images will be a thing of the past in some years and they will be merged with video. A video is a series of stills...

This is such an ignorant comment that it bears an individual response.

A video is not a series of stills. Anyone who thinks it is is either a terrible filmmaker or a terrible photographer. Or, perhaps both.

In the words of the great John Szarkowski (published 50 years ago), "...photography was born whole. It is in our progressive discovery of it that its history lies."

Photography is not painting...it is not film...it is not video...it is not drawing...it is photography.

A photograph is a physical object. It can be held in hand and contemplated. Even on a tablet or a laptop, it is there in front of us, whole. In a photograph there is no before or after, there is only the moment frozen in time.

A photograph has edges. Every photographer must select what he or she will include in the frame. Outside the frame, there is nothing. The entire world of the photograph lives within that frame.

A photograph has no depth. It is a two dimensional object and everything within the photograph must live within those two dimensions.

In truth, photography may be the most surrealistic of all the arts, because it creates an illusion of reality where none exists. Nothing in a photograph is every exactly as it was in life, yet nearly 200 years after the invention of the medium, we still fool ourselves into believing it represents reality.

Video or film is an entirely different medium that depends completely on motion. Things move across a stage, entering and exiting. Time passes in a film and that passage of time is integral to the story. The viewer cannot hold a film in their hands and examine it in detail, they are always at the mercy of the filmmaker, who sets the story into motion and controls what the viewer sees and when they see it.

To say that video is just a series of stills is to reveal complete ignorance of both mediums.

 

[PureClassA]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

Don't see anything really interesting in those specs. The things that matter to me have not been answered:

1) dynamic range?
2) is the AF better than what Mark III has? (Less of oof shots with fast apertures?)
3) exposure compensation in M mode?

#2 and #3 we can only assume at this point. I would say we could likely expect to see an upgrade along the lines of the DX2 in AF with more f8 points and a wider coverage area of the usable points. It will probably be a bit faster thanks to what I'm betting would be a new Digic 7 chipset.

#1 is a given. We saw the new on board ADC sensor tech employed first in a FF DSLR with the DX2 and you'd better believe Canon will absolutely be using that on a new 5 body. Canon even stated that going forward all the new sensors would be on this build and the 30MP sensor is absolutely a new sensor design.

 

[PureClassA]

Re: *UPDATED* Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specifications & Image

New CR Forums rule.

Do NOT engage any obviously absurd and mentally deranged posts by any user who has a post counter of 1 when it's posted. Then ignore all subsequent posts. This will save us all a ton of headaches and about 20 pages of ridiculous discussions.

(Neuro, in your case, this includes Dilbert ;D )