Updated ship dates for the new Canon lenses

[Canon Rumors Guy]

November was a busy month for Canon, as they announced 3 new lenses following October’s announcement of the RF 10-20mm f/4L IS STM. Below are the expected ship dates of the new Canon lenses according to B&H Photo. They are usually very accurate with these sorts of dates. Thus far, the RF 200-800mm f/6.3-9 IS

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[john1970]

Glad to see that the expected date of Dec 14, 2023 has not slipped. I am still waiting on my copy of the Canon RF 10-20 mm f4, but I am hoping that my local store also receives a copy of the 10-20 mm on Dec. 14. On the released date, my local store only received one copy of the RF 10-20 mm and I was #2 on the pre-order list.

 

[Canon Rumors Guy]

Glad to see that the expected date of Dec 14, 2023 has not slipped. I am still waiting on my copy of the Canon RF 10-20 mm f4, but I am hoping that my local store also receives a copy of the 10-20 mm on Dec. 14. On the released date, my local store only received one copy of the RF 10-20 mm and I was #2 on the pre-order list.

I'm eager to see what stock levels for the 200-800 are, just CR readers here pre-ordered about 100 of them.

 

[AlanF]

I'm eager to see what stock levels for the 200-800 are, just CR readers here pre-ordered about 100 of them.

Let’s have a poll on this.

 

[neuroanatomist]

I'm eager to see what stock levels for the 200-800 are, just CR readers here pre-ordered about 100 of them.

How does that compare to the 24-105/2.8?

 

[koenkooi]

I’m eager to see some real-life images taking by non-reviewers for these lenses.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

I'm eager to see what stock levels for the 200-800 are, just CR readers here pre-ordered about 100 of them.

But I was told that no one wants f/9.

 

[Surab]

But I was told that no one wants f/9.

I think "want" is different than being okay with the compromise of size and price. I see it as the versatile big brother of the 800mm F11. Also there's nothing else R users can get.

But to be fair I was on the fence about going RF and E or even Z, and this lens swayed me.

I find the R6II to be near perfect in design, ergonomics, and feature set for an amateur as me (read: I'm the bottle neck for years to come) and the 200-800 together with the tiny 28mm convinced me.

So in some sense you were right indeed.

 

[Toamelicious]

But I was told that no one wants f/9.

Weird thing isn't it? Nobody wants f9 or f11, yet canon sells those lenses like butter.
Canon is proclaimed dead and doomed, because Sony is lightyears ahead in sensor tech, AF and space travel, yet canon dominate the market.
It's almost as if people on the internet mostly have no clue what they're talking about.

 

[bbasiaga]

I got a pre-order at Adorama a few minutes past midnight. First pre-order ever, for me. I'm excited to see what happens. I also got on a notification list at the only camera shop in my state. I'll see who calls first, I guess!

Brian

 

[neuroanatomist]

Weird thing isn't it? Nobody wants f9 or f11, yet canon sells those lenses like butter.
Canon is proclaimed dead and doomed, because Sony is lightyears ahead in sensor tech, AF and space travel, yet canon dominate the market.
It's almost as if people on the internet mostly have no clue what they're talking about.

I still fail to see why some people persist in thinking they understand the ILC market better than Canon, the company that has led the market for 20 years and dominates it today. But that's the internet for you.

 

[EricN]

I still fail to see why some people persist in thinking they understand the ILC market better than Canon, the company that has led the market for 20 years and dominates it today. But that's the internet for you.

It's unsatisfying to me, but George Carlin explained in a very general way: "Think of how stupid the average person is and then realize half of them are stupider than that!"

 

[AlanF]

It's unsatisfying to me, but George Carlin explained in a very general way: "Think of how stupid the average person is and then realize half of them are stupider than that!"

The average person is very smart about most things. And, stupidity about politics is often independent of IQ.

 

[bendilts]

Still waiting on my 10-20 f4, I preordered in October hoping to bring it with me on a trip mid-December but I think that ship has sailed, unfortunately.

 

[EricN]

The average person is very smart about most things. And, stupidity about politics is often independent of IQ.

You're right. Carlin said it as a blanket statement and that's not a great way to think about people, but he was a comedian. Sorry if my comment offended anyone.

 

[EricN]

Still waiting on my 10-20 f4, I preordered in October hoping to bring it with me on a trip mid-December but I think that ship has sailed, unfortunately.

What day do you leave?

 

[Surab]

Y'all petting Canon's back and sure I just entered the system cause I found parts of it more appealing at this moment, but let's not kid ourselves:
1. People buy big brand names and Canon is the biggest, especially after Nikon failed to capture the YouTubers for a long time.
2. A lot of R users were Canon users before, too. More than most people are dumb, we can say that people are driven by habits.
3. Canon has the market share and doesn't offer alternatives to F9s etc (a bit hyperbole) at consumer prices, so yes people buy what they have access, too.

Wanting to defend Canon and indirectly once own investment as a sane one is only natural, but constantly claiming that Canon does everything right and big market share is just unhealthy brand loyalty.

 

[EricN]

I don't think anyone here constantly claims Canon does everything right. Right now, I can think three things almost everyone agrees are not great: UK pricing, ability to only partially use TCs on the 100-500mm (and some other lenses not at all), requirements for CPS membership.
Personally, I have yet to purchase any of these narrower lenses, but after seeing other people posting wonderful shots with them I definitely consider them as good value products. As far as I know, no other company is offering 400mm at under $1000 (with the additional advantage of low weight and short MFD) or 800mm under 2000 (let alone the prime under $1000).

Although I mentioned George's joke about half of people, I also heard in a psychology lecture the idea that there is a tendency for people to consider themselves to be the same as most people... For example, if I like strawberry ice-cream it's likely I will think most people also like strawberry ice-cream.

 

[neuroanatomist]

Y'all petting Canon's back and sure I just entered the system cause I found parts of it more appealing at this moment, but let's not kid ourselves:
1. People buy big brand names and Canon is the biggest, especially after Nikon failed to capture the YouTubers for a long time.
2. A lot of R users were Canon users before, too. More than most people are dumb, we can say that people are driven by habits.
3. Canon has the market share and doesn't offer alternatives to F9s etc (a bit hyperbole) at consumer prices, so yes people buy what they have access, too.

Wanting to defend Canon and indirectly once own investment as a sane one is only natural, but constantly claiming that Canon does everything right and big market share is just unhealthy brand loyalty.

For many years, Nikon was a pretty close second to Canon in terms of market share. Yet Nikon lost >20% market share over a 7 year period starting in 2015, and that share went to Sony while Canon remained stable. Seems there's more involved than just customer inertia.

 

[Quack]

The average person is very smart about most things. And, stupidity about politics is often independent of IQ.

Obviously you don't live in the US. Lots of people here have no idea what a continent is, where Europe or Australia are located on a map, what a vowel or a verb is, and many other things that used to be common knowledge. Obviously I am generalizing, but George Carlin was correct and it has nothing to do with politics. Apparently you still get some sort of education in the UK.