File Transfer Speed EOS R5 to Windows PC

I’ve tested the file transfer rates with my Canon EOS R5 using the USB-C cable directly and also using card readers. These are admittedly not definitive tests as I only ran them a couple of times and used a stopwatch for the timing, but they should give you an idea of how fast the files transfer to a desktop computer in each scenario.

The limited number of tests I ran indicated that using a card reader is approximately 50% faster than connecting the R5 directly to a Windows PC. Directly connecting the R5 to the PC resulted in 55 MB/sec transfer from the Cfexpress card and 30 MB/sec from the SD card.

I haven’t seen any tests like this and was interested in the difference between transferring files to decide if I wanted to use my card readers or simply plug my R5 into my computer.

My R5 is configured to copy a RAW file to my 128 GB Cfexpress card and a large JPG to the SD card. The desktop is an Intel i7 CPU with 24 GB of Ram, running Windows 10 Professional 64-bit. The files were copied to a 4 TB SATA secondary hard disk.

The Cfexpress card is a Sony Cfexpress Tough Card 128 GB rated for 1,700 MB/sec read and 1,480 MB/sec Write speed. The SD card is a Sony SF-G64/T1 SDXC UHS-II Class 10 U3 memory card, rated at 300 MB/sec read and 299 MB/sec write speed.

The R5 has a BG-R10 battery grip with two LP-E6NH batteries, both around 90% charged for all of the tests ran below.

The methodology used to test file transfer speed directly from the R5 to PC was to plug the R5 into a USB-A 3.0 blue port using a USB-C to USB-A 3.0 cable. Using Windows File Explorer, open a folder on the secondary drive. Turn on the R5 and open the camera in the drive list. Drill down to the folder storing the files (Cfexpress or SD card). Drag the folder from the camera and drop it on the open window on the PC and, at the same time, start the stopwatch. When the transfer of the folder and files is complete, stop the stopwatch.

The test is then duplicated, and the time to copy the SD card files recorded.

The second series of tests utilize an external card reader. The cards are removed from the camera and copied to the computer using the appropriate card reader.

Using the properties function of File Explorer, record the number of files and the total number of bytes transferred. Divide the number of bytes by the seconds required to determine the average megabytes per second.

The tests were run on two consecutive days with a slightly different number of files. This is not a scientific or exhaustive study but offered to provide an approximate data transfer rate for my particular set of equipment. My desktop is an i7 CPU, a few years old, but reasonably fast.

Results EOS R5 Cfexpress directly to PC:

Test 1 12.6 GB (13,595,368,488 Bytes) 03:37.69 Minutes, speed 62.453 MB/sec

Test 2 14.1 GB (15,141,919,008 Bytes) 05:23.76 Minutes, speed 46.769 MB/sec

Average: 54.6 MB/sec

Results EOS R5 SD Card directly to PC:

Test 1 850 MB (891,862,999 Bytes) 30.45 Seconds, speed 29.289 MB/sec

Test 2 1.32 GB (1,424,027,716 Bytes) 46.11 Seconds, speed 30.883 MB/sec

Average: 30.086 MB/sec

To determine the speed of using a card reader to copy the files, I used a Wise WA-CX01 Cfexpress card reader and a generic 3.0 SD card reader to transfer the files to the PC using the same basic methodology as the direct transfer above.

Results Card Reader to PC:

Cfexpress 14.1 GB (15,141,919,008 Bytes) 178.64 seconds, speed 84.762 MB/sec

SD Card 1.32 GB (1,424,027,716 Bytes) 19.12 seconds, speed 74,478 MB/sec
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Patent: Canon stereoscopic lens for the RF mount

Canon News has uncovered an interesting patent for a stereoscopic lens for what appears to be the RF mount.
According to the patent, this would only work on a full-frame camera, as the two lenses have an image height of 8.75mm which fits perfectly for a full-frame sensor.
According to the patent language, the application is for a camera, as the design takes into account a camera grip for usability.
In the lens device, since the angle of view of the optical system is relatively narrow and the distance (baseline length) between the optical axes of the two optical systems is short, the realism of the obtained stereoscopic image is not sufficient.  On the other hand, in the imaging apparatus described in Patent Document 1, when the two optical systems to try to increase the base length with a wide-angle of view, lens apparatus is enlarged. In this case, when the lens device is attached to the main...

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Angelbird Announces CFexpress with high MINIMUM sustained write speed

I observed that Angelbird has released some new interesting CFexpress cards, ref https://www.techpowerup.com/271643/angelbird-announces-cfexpress-2-0-type-b-media-cards
AV PRO CFexpress cards, promise a minimum sustained speed of 1000 MB/s (256gb 550 MB/s) ( for the entire capacity of the card. )
AV PRO CFexpress XT cards, promise a minimum sustained speed of 1480 MB/s (seems to be quite similar in spec as the Prograde Cobalt card)

And also interesting, is that they promise some other benefits:
- Efficiently preserves battery life and card endurance.
- Adaptive thermal management that protects the card, camera, and your content. and they claim the cards won't overheat.

Their support also confirms that the AV PRO CFexpress XT cards will operate at lower temperatures than AV PRO CFexpress, under the same write load conditions.

So could it be worth bying a AV PRO CFexpress XT card for use in a Canon R5 to help with heat management ?, or is the extra money for an XT card waste of money in a R5?

They offer some non XT cards specifically for Canon R5, in match packs.

anyway, its tempting cards, and I seriously consider buying one for my R5. But I also consider other options.

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Over the last few years, I have been asked to provide a way to give people the option to directly support this site and community. I never wanted to have a “donate” button, so I have just left it up to display advertising revenue and affiliate revenue.
I have decided to open up memberships for readers of the site to remove all of the display ads on Canon Rumors, as well as providing some other bonuses.
I am actively working with vendors to provide bonuses to CR Pro members, whether it be exclusive discounts on gear and software. On the CR Pro Lifetime Plus plan, I will be giving away sometime free every year, and that will likely always happen in Q4 of every year.
The no advertising experience really speeds to site up. For those using Adblockers, I totally get it, however, I’ll be honest in saying I’m going to be going around them in the near future and there will be some ads displayed.
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Patent: Canon RF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM

It was bound to come to the Canon RF lineup, and now we have a patent for a Canon RF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM. This will go well with the upcoming Canon RF 70-200mm f/4L IS USM.
Canon News uncovered this JPO patent.
Canon RF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM

Focal length: 24.73mm 40.97mm 67.90mm
F Number: 4.12 4.12 4.12
Half angle of view: 41.19° 27.84° 17.67°
Image height: 21.64mm 21.64mm 21.64mm
Total lens length: 145.52mm 135.76mm 160.05mm
BF: 18.00mm 25.64mm 55.54mm

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Confused with video playback memory card slot settings

I just got more SD cards today and wanted to test out the dual card slots function on my r6 (first time). With the record options set to “Rec. to multiple”, playback options for stills to card slot 1 and videos to card slot 2.
For the stills, they are working fine. I have checked that pictures are saved to both cards.
With the above settings, I am unable to view video at all, unless I set my stills playback to slot 2 (same as video), then I am able to view the saved videos. Did I miss out any steps?
With the “rec. to multiple” set up, seems like the secondary card will fill up faster if I take videos. If anyone is reading this, perhaps you can share what is your preferred settings and workflow, curious...

Deal: Save 30% on the new Nik Collection 3 by DXO

DXO is offering launch pricing on the new Nik Collection 3 suite of photo editing tools. You can save 30% on Nik Collection 3 on both upgrades and new purchases until September 20, 2020.
The Nik Collection 3 is one of my favorite editing packages, I use Silver EFX almost every day.
What is the Nik Collection 3?
Nik Collection 3 by DxO is a suite of eight powerful photo-editing plug-ins for Adobe Photoshop, Lightroom and DxO PhotoLab, that helps photographers take their images to the next level. Together the plug-ins allow a wide range of effects to be applied quickly and easily to images, such as great black & white conversions, attractive colour adjustments and creative treatments and new in this version, comprehensive geometric corrections.
A new non-destructive mode allows you to export images as TIFF files and tweak your edits while keeping your original images safe and your adjustments reversible.
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Skylum aims to reinvent traditional photo editing, announces LuminarAI

LuminarAI empowers visual communicators to make great photos with unique AI.  Everyone can create amazing images faster while having fun.
NEW YORK, NY – September 3, 2020 — This morning, Skylum unveiled a revolutionary approach to photo editing, LuminarAI. Unlike other photo editors that take a time-consuming approach based on tools, LuminarAI focuses on results. This revolutionary application and plug-in will be released this holiday season.
LuminarAI makes complex editing easier than ever before thanks to unique AI-powered tools. LuminarAI removes boring and complex tasks without sacrificing professional quality. Artificial intelligence lets the visual artist focus on results and not the process. Everyone can make amazing photos free of complexity, yet full of creativity, thanks to artificial intelligence.
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Industry News: Sony introduces the Sony Cinema Line, teases FX6 camera

Press Release:
Sony today announced the launch of Cinema Line, a series of new camera products for content creators which will bring together Sony’s expertise in image quality, attention to detail, technology, and passion in digital cinema.
Cinema Line will deliver not only the coveted cinematographic look cultivated through extensive experience in digital cinema production but also the enhanced operability and reliability that meet discerning creators’ various needs. The new series will extend beyond basic cinema cameras and professional camcorder form factors.

In 2000, Sony released the ground-breaking HDW-F900. The HDW-F900 marked the beginning of digital cinema history as the world’s first 24p digital cinema camera. VENICE and other products followed in response to countless dialogues with cinematographers and image creators.
Existing products in the Sony range will form part of the Cinema Line including VENICE and FX9. VENICE has become the first choice for digital movie...

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A budget EOS R body is coming in the first half of 2021 [CR2]

The Canon EOS RP is currently the cheapest entry point for the EOS R system. It can currently be had for $999 USD.
I have been told that Canon will introduce a new entry-level full-frame EOS R camera in the first half of 2021 and that it will come in under $999 USD.
No specifications have been given, but you can likely expect the camera to omit things like an EVF to get costs down. Rumor has it that Sony will be doing a similar thing in the near future.
More to come…

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Focus breathing with the RF 100-500mm

The 100-400mm II has severe focus breathing, the effective focal length dropping from 400mm to 178mm at its minimum focal distance of 970mm.
Prompted by someone asking if there is focus breathing with the RF 100-500mm, I have calculated the focal length at the mfd from data reported in The-digital-photo site:
Specified Min Focus Distance 35.43” (900mm)
Tested Min Focus Distance (Wide / Long) 38.23” / 47.01” (971mm / 1194mm)
Maximum Magnification (MM) 0.33x

Combining them gives a maximum focal length of 224mm at the minimum focal distance of 1194mm.
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Further talk about the fate of the EOS M system

There has been some chatter about the future of the EOS M system once again after a report surfaced last week that the system would be shuttered as soon as 2021.
This isn’t a new phenomenon, the death of the EOS M system has been talked about since the launch of the EOS R system back in 2018. While Canon has continued to release new EOS M camera bodies, the lens lineup is still limping along with no apparent direction or excitement.
So is the death of the EOS M greatly exaggerated?
Not according to two people I spoke with this week. One of them is privy to the roadmap going forward and I am told that there is nothing in regards to the EOS M in the 2021 roadmap. The source called this “unusual”, but cautioned that the current global challenges may be the reason and that a roadmap could be updated later in Q4.
Another source claims that the system is going to go...

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Caution - R5 is geocoded in China

I preordered and bought my R5 in China as I'm usually (not this year) visiting once a year either way.
As image.canon gateway went straight to baidu cloud and no way to change this I've reached out to Canon UK repair centre.

They explained, that if I want to use image.canon, I will have to replace the PCB (!) with them, which has the geocoding and serial number that prevent me from chosing a server. This is a 465.72 GBP + shipping extra cost AND I would also forego my Chinese warranty by doing so.

This is the first instance of geocoding that I've experienced with Canon, so I was not prepared for that. I caution everyone who wants to buy their Canon gear in China, that they will (pending firmware update) not be able to use the key feature of image.canon - for me on the top 3 reasons why to get this one over the R6 (which has 2.4ghz slow wifi).
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R5 not showing Exposure Simulation with flash - solution found.

Hi all just got my godox flash and trigger and quickly playing with it on the R5 I have discovered a little hack the camera setting a little hack required to overcome the issue where the exposure simulation is turned off by the trigger or flash being mounted on the camera. This is useful when mixing flash and ambient. I thought the only way to overcome this was to turn the flash or trigger off, set your exposure for ambient, then turn the flash on again. However I discovered the long pressing DOF preview button shows your actual exposure. Then dug through the manual and this sentence on page 262 all of a sudden made sense in the context of using a flash

"Normally, the image is displayed at standard brightness, so it is easy to see ( ). Only when you hold down the depth-of-field preview button will image brightness resemble actual brightness (exposure) of the resulting image ( )."

Note that this works when you have exposure set to "enable", but the DOF preview button set to something else eg aspect ratio- it requires an initial press, don't change the setting it is programmed to, but rather release and long press. This activates this exposure sim when the flash is connected. Weird. Solution found!!
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Nvidia RTX 30XX series

Hi all,

From all of the initial research I have done on this freshly announced series of GPUs from Nvidia, it looks like there is no hardware decoding for h.265 4:2:2 10-bit video.

Has anyone else been able to find out if this video codec is supported? On the Nvidia website they are focused on the AV1 codec only.

Really not sure what to do now in terms of upgrading my PC to handle R5 video files.

Cheers,
Chris

RF Mount APS-C camera coming second half of 2021 [CR2]

The on-again, off-again rumors of an APS-C EOS R series camera appear to be back on today.
A known source has told me that the APS-C RF mount camera was initially slated to be announced in early 2021, but has been pushed back to the second half of 2021.
It’s obviously too far out to know any sort of reliable specifications, but I was told that it was not going to be an entry-level product, but a higher margin camera built around speed and a smaller footprint than the EOS R5 and EOS R6.
More to come…

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Canon R5 vs R6 + Topaz GigaPixel

Any lucky folks with both an R5 and R6 want to try an experiment? With the advancement of software solutions, I am curious how a 45MP shot from the R5 compared to a 20MP shot with the R6 that has been "Gigapixeled" x2? I have not tried GigaPixel but I sure see some positive reviews! I do use Topaz DeNoise, and again there is positive reviews, but I do notice artifacts from digital manipulation. Just a thought...

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How many R5 cameras do you have on order?

With the high demand and limited supply for this camera, I was wondering how many prospective owners have multiple orders in for one. I seem to recall in a few instances where this was a common practice for some in the hopes of acquiring an item in short supply as quickly as possible.
Also, if you have more than one order in with different vendors, how would you handle getting more than one shipment out at the same time since it is possible vendors get in shipments all at the same time? Refuse delivery? Send extras back? Sell on open market? Just curious about the different scenarios that can happen. Sorry in advance if this has been covered recently already.
Thanks.

TCs on the 100-400mm II

The 100-400mm II looks like having a useful future because all accounts are that it focuses fast and well with a 2xTC on the R5. As I am contemplating purchases with the R5, I wanted to know more about its IQ with the 2xTC to help my choice of gear. Unfortunately, the standard websites, like TDP, are not that useful for comparisons because they use monochrome charts at unknown distances, and lenses' performance can vary a lot with distance.

So, I decided to put the lens through a series of tests with TCs and compare it with the Sigma 150-600mm C, benchmarked against the Nikon 500mm f/5.6 PF, which is reckoned to be up with the very best primes. The EF lenses are on the 5DSR, which is of similar resolution to the R5, and the Nikon on the Nikon D850, whose 45 Mpx sensor is again up there with the very best. The target was a British £10 note, which has lots of different types of detail, colouring and shading. But, when I started to make a collage of the results, PS clammmed up with a notice it was illegal to process pictures of these notes. Sure enough, it is a criminal offence to reproduce even fragments! Here then is just a summary.

At a distance of 3.2m (10 feet), the results with the TCs were very disappointing. Adding, the 1.4xTCIII to the 100-400mm II hardly increased resolution, and the 2xTCIII if anything lowered resolution and contrast despite the 2x 2 larger image. The Sigma was actually better, and adding the Sigma 1.4xTC was quite good. The Nikon PF at 500mm and with a 1.4xTC at 700mm, absolutely blew them away - which didn't surprise me as I get very sharp images of butterflies and dragonflies with it at that distance. So, I was a b it despondent.

At a distance of 19m (60 feet), the situation fortunately changed dramatically. Adding the 1.4xTCIII to the 100-400mm II gave an image that had poorer contrast than 500mm on the Nikon, but after sharpening with the lens sharpening tool in DxO PL, it was pretty close to the 500mm prime, which I knew from experience. And, the resolution was nearly as good. The same was true with the 2xTCIII on the 100-400mm II compared with the 500mm + 1.4xTC - a pretty good performance with the 100-400mm II with a 2xTC, it sharpens up really nicely. The Sigma at 600mm was similar to the Canon at 560mm, which I knew from experience. But, adding the 1.4xTC did not improve it.

So, Canon's TCs do what is logical, they work well at long distances, and I am going to be happy using the 2xTC on an R-series with my favourite zoom. And, be careful with those TDP charts because they might not work for your shooting distances.
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Question about depth of Field with a 400 f2.8

Im interested in the abiility of the 400 f2.8 to blur the background (for wildlife).
But while looking into this with a depth of field calculator i noticed some contradictions.

when i type 400mm f2.8 into the dof calculator it says that i get about 62cm of in focus area with a subject at 25m distance.
however when i type in 560mm f4 (400 f2.8 with 1.4 teleconverter) it says i get a dof of about 45cm.

how is it possible that the dof is smaller with the teleconverter? All the sources i could find online said that the teleconverter doesnt
affect dof at all and that the teleconverter basicaly only performs an "optical crop".

Does anyone know more about this?

R5 'Exposure Simulation' behavior with and without hotshoe trigger.

Could an R5 owner confirm the way the Exposure Simulation works when a Canon and an off brand flash trigger are hotshoe mounted? I have been told that when there is a trigger in the hotshoe the Exposure Simulation defaults to 'Enable' which seems very counter intuitive to me because it is when you are using flash that the camera can't simulate the exposure, if this is true I would expect it to be classed as a bug.

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