Canon EOS R5 pricing is still unknown, don’t believe the reports [CR0]

[David Hull]

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Hopefully, this thing settles out at around $3300 USD, (after perhaps an initial fleecing of the early adopters). If it doesn't it will mean that they ae raising the traditional 5D series price point.

 

[sanj]

Shouldn't this post be a CR4 because you are certain that you don't know the price?

Exactly RIGHT

 

[Rixy]

$5000 definitely

 

[brad-man]

I would like to know the price at a year after launch as that is when i might buy, once they have fixed the problems and updated the firmware

It'll be $3300.00 a year after release. I didn't want to keep you in suspense for that long...

 

[herein2020]

I think it will be priced at $4500 USD. I'm basing my opinion on the higher prices for the RF Lenses compared to EF Lenses. Look at current pricing for the RF 24-70 2.8 and 70-200 2.8 compared to their EF counterparts. This is going to be a high price system.

Finally..another voice of reason. If Canon were going for 'volume" and matching past release prices the RF mount lenses would cost the same as the EF mount. For me the RF mount lenses is the main reason I'm not interested in the R5, the price of entry into the R system includes expensive new lenses. I know there's adaptors but I only use native mounts, I don't want another piece of gear just to put the lens on the camera.

BestBuy; in-store pickup. That's how I got my 5D4 the week it was released in 2016. There were 3 in the LA area when I purchased mine. Within the hour, they were sold out, especially at Samy's Camera.

I bought my 5DIV from BestBuy as well, mainly because I buy their GeekSquad protection each time in addition to my regular insurance. I bought my 5D3 and 5D4 from there.

 

[Deleted member 378085]

I honestly believe this is a marketing ploy, scare people into high prices and when it comes in at what the cost should be (5D type release price) it makes it look like a bargain.

 

[joestopper]

I was told by local Australian retailer that the Australian retail price will be between AUS$6000-7000. If it is $6500 it will be about US$4000. Generally US prices are cheaper than Australian price even when converted to Aus price. So I suspect the retail price in US to be less than 4k. More like 3.5k
It cannot be over Aus$10,000 as that’s about the price of the 1dxmklll

Why should an Australian retailer know. Unless there is an official announcement no one knows the price - not even Canon.

 

[Deleted member 378085]

The RF glass Already has a premium price.
pricing the R bodies competitively will give them the edge. I hope they don’t make the mistake of slapping a ridiculous price tag on the R5 as that would hamper sales.They need to setup their game like the lower end R6 only get 20MP in an era of 24MP bodies.
and phones that are setting the bar higher and higher.

firstly, you can't even compare a phone to a full frame sensor camera and the capabilities, regardless of MP, that's just plain dumb.
Secondly 20MP is really close to 24MP so I don't really see an issue there.

 

[AEWest]

The pricing will also depend on what the Nikon Z8 is spec'ed and priced at. Canon don't operate in a vacuum and will price the R5 inline with what it expects all the wedding and events photographers are willing to pay and what their competitor is charging for their D850 replacement. I am certainly not expecting it priced with a 1D body, it does not have 1d body specs.

But there is no Z8 to compare to...

 

[analoggrotto]

This things going to be out of stock for months.

 

[Deleted member 381342]

But there is no Z8 to compare to...

Not yet no there isn't. But the point is Canon doesn't price things in a vacuum and will be aware that Nikon are working on a pro body too. The great thing for us Canon users is it does mean we will always have a $3500 competitive camera from Canon, or they wont be able to compete.

 

[privatebydesign]

I think that's Peter's point...the key word here is "on a tripod", a tripod is the last thing I'm lugging around when I'm doing a sunset swimsuit shoot half way down the beach; let alone for a model that will probably never do more than upload them to her Instagram feed at a 960x1200 resolution.

Sure you can get razor sharp images out of almost any camera; but when it needs to sit on a tripod to do so it has eliminated pretty much any scenario except nature, studio, or specific commercial work which is not a camera that is going to appeal to the masses.

The difference between 30mp and 61mp when downsized to 1200 on the long side is irrelevant.

Sure you can get razor sharp images out of almost any camera; but when it needs to sit on a tripod to do so it has eliminated pretty much any scenario except nature, studio, or specific commercial work which is not a camera that is going to appeal to the masses.

I shot a runway fashion show with my 5DIV beside a photographer with a 5DS...it was almost comical how blurry his images were; we're talking a low light situation, fast moving models, and no tripod. Obviously he bought into the MP hype.

At same sized output and cropped the same (using the same lens) there is no reason for a MP difference to be detectable regarding sharpness, handheld or not. If the guy was getting more blur than you at the same sized output he was using a longer shutterspeed, nothing else, the mp numbers just don't come into the equation like you are implying.

Images are not more blurred because they have more pixels. Having more pixels enables you to get more resolution if you use techniques that realize that potential, fast enough shutter speed/exposure time, enough contrast, good lenses etc etc. You do not need a tripod to shoot 60mp images that have pixel level detail, but not all images shot with 60mp cameras will have as much detail as they could if optimal technique wasn't used.

 

[reefroamer]

My guess continues to be US$2,999. The market is shrinking and Canon has prioritized market share in full-fame digital cameras. That means higher volumes. A lower price will be a huge winner and suck the oxygen from competitors ... IF Canon production can meet demand. They have a real opportunity here to deliver a knockout product at a knockout price. That's a killer one-two punch. Now is not the time for business as usual. I think Canon completely gets this. We'll know soon enough.

 

[AEWest]

Not yet no there isn't. But the point is Canon doesn't price things in a vacuum and will be aware that Nikon are working on a pro body too. The great thing for us Canon users is it does mean we will always have a $3500 competitive camera from Canon, or they wont be able to compete.

But you mentioned that Canon has to price based on Z8 specs and price...how can they do that when there are no specs or price or even confirmation of such a camera?

 

[Ozarker]

I'm still thinking that maybe as the dollar is 20% stronger to the yen that it was in 2017 and before that maybe the price could fall in the 3500USD range.

even 2900 USD is close to the same amount of yen as 3500USD 2 years ago... (close, don't take the financial analysis too seriously as there is inflation and other factors).

But does the exchange rate really matter? It seems that Canon would price for the region regardless of exchange rate. I don't see daily, weekly, or monthly fluctuations in prices at dealers because the exchange rate has changed.

 

[privatebydesign]

My guess continues to be US$2,999. The market is shrinking and Canon has prioritized market share in full-fame digital cameras. That means higher volumes. A lower price will be a huge winner and suck the oxygen from competitors ... IF Canon production can meet demand. They have a real opportunity here to deliver a knockout product at a knockout price. That's a killer one-two punch. Now is not the time for business as usual. I think Canon completely gets this. We'll know soon enough.

Ha, market share when nobody can make anything and few people can buy it even if they do? All the companies are going to have to maximize the profit per item which means a higher price to start with until demand drops off and production and personal economies ramp up. I'd guess a longer term price at $3,499 to $3,699 and a launch price of $3,999 or more.

 

[privatebydesign]

I'm still thinking that maybe as the dollar is 20% stronger to the yen that it was in 2017 and before that maybe the price could fall in the 3500USD range.

even 2900 USD is close to the same amount of yen as 3500USD 2 years ago... (close, don't take the financial analysis too seriously as there is inflation and other factors).

Yeh that's why the 1DX III launched at $2,000 less than the MkII did!
Launch price:
MkII $5,999
MkIII $6,499

 

[Hector1970]

This camera is coming into a very difficult market. Alot of Canon's customers who would have bought it might have second thoughts now. Wedding photographers won't exactly have spare cash at the moment. Setting the price point for this is very tricky. I'd say Canon would be looking for $4500 to $5000 for the camera but bar the initial rush may find it a difficult camera to shift at that price. Even a lower price might not be attractive for a while as people work out do they have the future incomes to spend that much money on a luxury item or a work tool. I personally will not be committing to any major spending on photography until I am sure I remain employed. We've only been 3/4 months impacted by this virus. The economic impact is to follow and its a viscous downward cycle for an extended period of time. We are way off a vaccine (we may never get a vaccine or aqcuire substantial immunity) and it will come back in waves. No people focused business is going to be the same for a while. Countries opening up now could be shut back down. It has a big chance of being endemic. People buy cameras either because its part of their job or to travel to places to take photographs or do portrait photography. It will take years for tourism to recover to what it was. It will decrease as a hobby and a business in the short term.

 

[sanj]

This things going to be out of stock for months.

I am not sure about that. Buying power is at a low currently. And we may have a world wide recession.

 

[sanj]

This camera is coming into a very difficult market. Alot of Canon's customers who would have bought it might have second thoughts now. Wedding photographers won't exactly have spare cash at the moment. Setting the price point for this is very tricky. I'd say Canon would be looking for $4500 to $5000 for the camera but bar the initial rush may find it a difficult camera to shift at that price. Even a lower price might not be attractive for a while as people work out do they have the future incomes to spend that much money on a luxury item or a work tool. I personally will not be committing to any major spending on photography until I am sure I remain employed. We've only been 3/4 months impacted by this virus. The economic impact is to follow and its a viscous downward cycle for an extended period of time. We are way off a vaccine (we may never get a vaccine or aqcuire substantial immunity) and it will come back in waves. No people focused business is going to be the same for a while. Countries opening up now could be shut back down. It has a big chance of being endemic. People buy cameras either because its part of their job or to travel to places to take photographs or do portrait photography. It will take years for tourism to recover to what it was. It will decrease as a hobby and a business in the short term.

Very likely this is what will happen. Hope not!