Confirmed: Canon EOS R5c to be announced next month [CR3]

[neuroanatomist]

So. Is Log 2 better or Log 3?

Log 10 is # 1, so it’s the best.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

Well the Sony FX3 is the benchmark and the top plate design of that is as close to perfect for a crossover as possible, and the three 3/8th threads with the detachable XLR/top handle is pretty unbeatable. If Canon compromise the top plate design by putting a 'normal' EVF and new style hotshot on top of it then it is very clearly aimed at the photo end of the crossover spectrum.

Not that I have any skin in the game, I have zero interest or need in the camera, just always interested to see how Canon is thinking.

The description sounds like a normal EVF.
Earlier rumors were of an optional hot shoe EVF like the M6 Mark II.

From the top, the R5 and C70 do not look as different as you might think.

Compare camera dimensions side by side

camerasize.com

 

[entoman]

Well that was true of the 1DX/1DC, but with active cooling, new mount points on the top plate, as well as a different and bigger hotshot design I don't see that there is a lot of the R5 left.

Probably a different top plate/EVF, and a new back plate for the cooling, but the same basic R5 body shell.
Hopefully that way it will keep the price within sensible limits - there's a lot of competition out there.

We'll find out soon enough

 

[sanj]

They are both good. They are different settings for different situations. Canon Log 2 provides more dynamic range but is harder to grade and you really have to protect the shadows, as it's not great in lowlight. Canon Log 3 was created to fix the issues of Canon Log 3 (easier to grade, better in low light) but at the expense of dynamic range and highlight rolloff. I use Canon Log 3 in lowlight and Canon Log 2 in bright light.

Thank you for this valuable reply! Appreciate!

 

[sanj]

It provides more dynamic range, "better" depends on the application. https://www.visuals.co.uk/visualsbl...og-2-and-canon-log-1-side-by-side-comparison/

Thank you!!!

 

[robotfist]

I've mentioned it before, but I'd really rather have the R5C sensor use less megapixels and be better in lowlight than have unlimited 8k. For shooting video, I find better light sensitivity to be a much more useful feature than more resolution.

 

[NorskHest]

Log 10 is # 1, so it’s the best.

You’re not funny

 

[DBounce]

The R3 is a great camera but unlimited record times is a feature Sony & Panasonic offer in all their weather-sealed hybrid cameras at the $2500+ price point. Hoping Canon competes.

Really? He’s what you miss, the rolling shutter is much less on the R3 than on all the Sony bodies. The usable low-light is way better on the R3 than… well, just about everything… as DXOMark has already stated. But want proof? Check out this ISO performance test shoot that goes from 3,200 up to 25,000. Pay particular attention to the 10,000 ISO mark.Very clean and no mushification caused by in camera noise reduction like on Sonys.

 

[NorskHest]

I've mentioned it before, but I'd really rather have the R5C sensor use less megapixels and be better in lowlight than have unlimited 8k. For shooting video, I find better light sensitivity to be a much more useful feature than more resolution.

Don’t use that low megapixel talk with these people they will have a meltdown and probably try to get you banned, then they will tell you to go buy a Sony and then they will tell their wives how badly they burned someone on the forums best not provoke the people who post too much here.

 

[DBounce]

I assume Canon adds 8K60P just to beat Nikon to it. Canon should add a crop 5.1K120P, that would have been an awesome feature.

I doubt it. It would need to have way faster readout speed.

 

[privatebydesign]

As a hybrid shooter who does photo & video within seconds of each other on wedding days, I'm not that impressed.

If you're going to go vented and sacrifice weather sealing, then it needs at least some cinema features beyond timecode (which will never be used in a hybrid photo/video environment) such as internal NDs. The 1Dc was great because it could handle shooting in a downpour, but with this R5c I'll have to worry about a tiny drizzle. I'd prefer a normal R5 with unlimited 1080p and non-HQ 4k recording (100% possible with firmware) over one vented that gives me unlimited HQ & raw.

I love that Canon is attempting to straddle the photo/video fence here, but my feeling is meh. It should honestly be priced at $3,900, as you're trading weather sealing for some basic video features that competitors already offer in sealed bodies (unlimited record times up to 4k). Maybe the unlimited 8k and raw recording is appealing to enough people that the price can be pushed to $4500? It's certainly a minority of professional videographers/cinematographers who'd make use of that. Though maybe I'm just shortsighted here. Unlimited 8k recording is pretty significant when I think about it. Maybe I take it all back haha. Damn I'm probably going to buy one.

Why do you assume active cooling necessitates no weather sealing? They are not mutually exclusive.

 

[sanj]

You’re not funny

Perhaps the holiday season has set in and he is already down a few. Yes, stupid comment.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

I've mentioned it before, but I'd really rather have the R5C sensor use less megapixels and be better in lowlight than have unlimited 8k. For shooting video, I find better light sensitivity to be a much more useful feature than more resolution.

Sounds like you want an R6c.
I am not sure what the demand would be for that but maybe there are enough people with your desire.

 

[neuroanatomist]

Don’t use that low megapixel talk with these people they will have a meltdown and probably try to get you banned, then they will tell you to go buy a Sony and then they will tell their wives how badly they burned someone on the forums best not provoke the people who post too much here.

Sounds like you need to detox from your time on DPR. Good luck with that.

 

[neuroanatomist]

Perhaps the holiday season has set in and he is already down a few. Yes, stupid comment.

Some people find math challenging.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

I doubt it. It would need to have way faster readout speed.

The readout speed for video of the R5 and Z 9 are practically identical.
The Z 9 is marginally faster.
There is noticeable rolling shutter in video on the Z 9.
None during photos.
Which makes little sense with 120 FPS photos at 11 MP when 11 MP is more than enough for 4K video.

 

[mdcmdcmdc]

Does the original R5 do anything this doesn’t? Or is this basically an R5 Mark II after only 18 months?

 

[neuroanatomist]

Does the original R5 do anything this doesn’t?

Overheats, presumably.

 

[peters]

The R3 is a great camera but unlimited record times is a feature Sony & Panasonic offer in all their weather-sealed hybrid cameras at the $2500+ price point. Hoping Canon competes.

hm, which camera do you mean for 2500$? There is none as far as I can tell which offers the same image quality the R5 gives you AND 8k AND 4k120 AND a highres-sensor with 20fps for photography.... All of these models are compromising on one end. Only true hybrids which are stronger than the R5 current in BOTH, photo and video are the Sony A1 and the Nikon Z9. Which are both much more expensive.

 

[peters]

Does the original R5 do anything this doesn’t? Or is this basically an R5 Mark II after only 18 months?

Probably smaller, lighter, probably cheaper, better for travel, weather sealed.
So overall the R5C is more of an video centered R5.
If you are not interested in video, I guess that the R5 is the better choice, if any of the points above matter to your shooting style =)